U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests

[SoonerPride]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

Total deaths in seven states that have been hard hit by the coronavirus pandemic are nearly 50 percent higher than normal for the five weeks from March 8 through April 11, according to new death statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That is 9,000 more deaths than were reported as of April 11 in official counts of deaths from the coronavirus.

The new data is partial and most likely undercounts the recent death toll significantly. But it still illustrates how the coronavirus is causing a surge in deaths in the places it has struck, probably killing more people than the reported statistics capture. These increases belie arguments that the virus is only killing people who would have died anyway from other causes. Instead, the virus has brought a pattern of deaths unlike anything seen in recent years.

If you look at the provisional deaths from all causes, death counts in New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland and Colorado have spiked far above their normal levels for the period. In New York City, the home of the biggest outbreak, the number of deaths over this period is more than three times the normal number. (Recent data suggests it could have reached six times higher than normal.)

More at the link.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Higher excess deaths despite drop in traffic deaths & crime deaths. . . . nt

[malaise]

2. This will be the biggest attempted cover-up in history

Don the Con and his goons should be thrown in dungeons for the rest of their lives

[SoonerPride]

3. Agree on both counts.

There needs to be a reckoning and not just investigation and committees, but trials.

And prison sentences.

Criminality must be punished.

[Igel]

4. If so, it's Trump in deep collusion with Democratic governors and mayors.

Which is not where anybody wants to take it, but there the assertion drags people nonetheless.

Esp. now, when the CDC has requested states to include COVID-caused deaths even in the absence of a positive COVID-19 test.

In fact, it's unclear if this article accounts for that revised guidance, dated 4/4, and which some states implemented retroactively. Like NY.

[LisaL]

5. Not necessarily an intentional cover up.

Lets say somebody dies at home of a heart attack. Cause of death would be listed as a heart attack.
Without testing, it won't be known that the heart attack was actually caused by covid.

[central scrutinizer]

6. We're likely going to top 60,000 documented deaths today

Which was the number being bandied about a few weeks ago for when we would be on the other side of the apex.

[SoonerPride]

7. They will just continue to move the goalposts and gaslight the public

I always said we'd have only 60,000 deaths!

I always said we'd have only 80,000 deaths!

I always said we'd have only 100,000 deaths!

I always said we'd have only 150,000 deaths!

I always said we'd have only 250,000 deaths!

I always said we'd have only 1,000,000 deaths!

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It won't work this time.

[central scrutinizer]

8. They did cherry pick the most extreme estimate

As proof of the efficacy of Glorious Leader’s tremendous plan. Some agency said there could be as many as 2.2 million dead under certain conditions.

[SoonerPride]

9. And Agolf Twitler used that 2.2 million number to say he's doing a great job!

":Anything less than 2 million dead means I'm the bestest president in history!"

He is the worst motherfucker on the planet.