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4/29 This is crazy, 23,000 new #coronavirus cases in the last 24 hours!!! (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2020 OP
There were 35,000 new cases on Saturday. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #1
We were warned. spanone Apr 2020 #2
That's what happens when people finally kacekwl Apr 2020 #3
Looks like the 2000 deaths a day for US is the current norm. rgbecker Apr 2020 #4
This is actually good news forthemiddle Apr 2020 #5
Yes, I agree democrattotheend Apr 2020 #7
We're to repeat a Germany and Italy without a federated TTQ campaign .. #YourFamilyFirst (link) uponit7771 Apr 2020 #9
Trump wrongly says this is because we are testing more than any other country. Yonnie3 Apr 2020 #6
Use count, use percentages. Igel Apr 2020 #10
The more important thing is the ***RELATIVE*** Ro not just number of cases. If our relative Ro uponit7771 Apr 2020 #8

kacekwl

(7,022 posts)
3. That's what happens when people finally
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:09 AM
Apr 2020

hey tested . Yet the headlines read the worst is over. It's a shame the last few months of stay at home will be wasted by the infants who desperately need to go bowling or have a beach party.

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
4. Looks like the 2000 deaths a day for US is the current norm.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:16 AM
Apr 2020

It dips on weekends, I'd guess because of reporting, but has been consistent 2000 +/- for the last couple of weeks. That's 60,000/month. So open up the restaurants and movie theaters. Have a few baseball games.
What could go wrong?

forthemiddle

(1,383 posts)
5. This is actually good news
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:18 AM
Apr 2020

It means that testing is finally ramping up.

The reason behind the lockdown was never to STOP the virus, it was to slow it down to a point that we wouldn’t overwhelm the hospitals. Covid19 will spread until a vaccine is in place, and there is no way we can have every stay in place until that time.

Are we opening to soon? Maybe, but we can see from even the most liberal parts of the Country that quarantine fatigue is coming. This increase in cases is happening because we are testing more, and because this virus can not be stopped yet.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
7. Yes, I agree
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:30 AM
Apr 2020

A lot of people seem to have forgotten that the point of the shutdown was to let hospitals catch up and flatten the curve to avoid overwhelming the healthcare system. I don't know if we are quite there yet - seems more PPE is needed for providers - but the idea that we are going to stay shut down until a vaccine is discovered is ridiculous.

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
9. We're to repeat a Germany and Italy without a federated TTQ campaign .. #YourFamilyFirst (link)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:49 AM
Apr 2020

Https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/germany-lockdown-eases-spread-coronavirus-worsens-200428075843362.html

With a federated testing / tracing / isolation campaign we can get the sick out of circulation

Yonnie3

(17,497 posts)
6. Trump wrongly says this is because we are testing more than any other country.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:27 AM
Apr 2020

Trump is flat out wrong. The US is TESTING LESS and finding MORE cases.

Russia 22.6/1000 tested - 3.0% infected
Canada 20.0/1000 - 6.6% infected
Australia 21.4/1000 - 1.2% infected
US 17.9/1000 - 17.5% infected

Edit to add: I find the US's 17.5% positive rate troubling. Until that is in the single digits we will have little evidence as to how widespread the infections are.


Igel

(35,362 posts)
10. Use count, use percentages.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:25 PM
Apr 2020

You get different answers.

When Trump counts the tests, we're doing more tests than any other country.

When you look at positive/total testing ratios, you're using a different metric.

When others look at test/1 M population, they're using a third.

Each is good for something. Neither is the One Truth.

Increase the number of tests and you'll get that positive/total ratio down, but it's going to be asymptotic to the actual percent infected at any given time. For that you need random sampling, not just testing those who are infected. (Which is another difference, in all likelihood, between the US and other countries--you can't use data you don't understand, and I know I don't understand the basis for the other countries' testing. Do they just test those who are referred by doctors? Pre-screened by professionals? Pre-screened by the patient online? Walk-in, no screening? Random, selected by professionals? Each will give a different result, even with the same number of infected in a given population.)

uponit7771

(90,367 posts)
8. The more important thing is the ***RELATIVE*** Ro not just number of cases. If our relative Ro
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:44 AM
Apr 2020

... goes up like it has in German after their SIP let up then we're screwed.

Right now we don't even have a baseline Ro ... we might even be lower than Italy nationally

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