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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:25 AM Apr 2020

Nervous GOP Sees Trump Sinking and Losing Senate Too

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/25/nervous-gop-sees-trump-sinking-and-losing-senate/

Nervous GOP Sees Trump Sinking and Losing Senate Too
April 25, 2020 at 7:36 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


“President Trump’s erratic handling of the coronavirus outbreak, the worsening economy and a cascade of ominous public and private polling have Republicans increasingly nervous that they are at risk of losing the presidency and the Senate if Mr. Trump does not put the nation on a radically improved course,” the New York Times reports.

“The scale of the G.O.P.’s challenge has crystallized in the last week. With 26 million Americans now having filed for unemployment benefits, Mr. Trump’s standing in states that he carried in 2016 looks increasingly wobbly: New surveys show him trailing significantly in battleground states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, and he is even narrowly behind in must-win Florida.”
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Nervous GOP Sees Trump Sinking and Losing Senate Too (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2020 OP
I will predict a net gain of 8 GOP senate seats to the democrats come Nov 3rd. It will be an beachbumbob Apr 2020 #1
If so then no mercy given. Get rid of filibuster and jam progressive legislation down Pepsidog Apr 2020 #43
"going back to the Obama days cannot happen." I would add... Yavin4 Apr 2020 #44
I agree, Trump just may well usher in an era of progressive change that rivals the likes of Pepsidog Apr 2020 #48
It's a pattern. Bush II-Trump-??? Yavin4 Apr 2020 #49
Dear Donny: keep talking. EarthFirst Apr 2020 #2
Mitch will just have to save the day with his warm personality and charisma underpants Apr 2020 #3
They know the REAL numbers... PCIntern Apr 2020 #4
I know some of those people D_Master81 Apr 2020 #50
Republicans coast to coast will be wiped out SoonerPride Apr 2020 #5
100%+ True Blue American Apr 2020 #8
+1 bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #12
Forever, I hope. Harker Apr 2020 #28
I'd like to believe that, but considering wnylib Apr 2020 #38
I agree but we also want them gone for at least a decade, if not two! machoneman Apr 2020 #39
Much too late True Blue American Apr 2020 #6
Changing course must be a major shift in Eyeball_Kid Apr 2020 #37
Awww, a Republican panic outbreak on Trump's garbage barge BeyondGeography Apr 2020 #7
'garbage barge' empedocles Apr 2020 #13
worse than trump's handling of the coronavirus is the republicans non-handling of trump spanone Apr 2020 #9
They Could Have Protected Themselves ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #16
That's the really mind-boggling thing. GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #26
Yep. And a lot of them 'took the money' and have grown accustomed to it. crickets Apr 2020 #52
Republicans winetourdriver01 Apr 2020 #40
Tuff Patooties -- vlyons Apr 2020 #10
52,000 preventable deaths will do that to a party. sop Apr 2020 #11
To be honest, many were NOT preventable. But tRump could have achieved Canada's rates, if he tried Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #23
Good point. Scratch preventable. sop Apr 2020 #25
I fear that about 32K of these deaths were preventable Vogon_Glory Apr 2020 #36
We are moving through death counts Eyeball_Kid Apr 2020 #41
Given the Florida super stupid governor, and beach mayors - could be empedocles Apr 2020 #14
AMJoy reporting this morning of spikes in cases... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #35
In WI, I really don't think the election fiasco had much to do with their now soaring rates. machoneman Apr 2020 #42
Agreed on the media's portrayel of events as being a big part of the problem. c-rational Apr 2020 #45
And they were so proud of that beautiful albatross necklace they got at the 2016 convention. tanyev Apr 2020 #15
Only one thing to do, and it's not to start acting responsible captain queeg Apr 2020 #17
ONLY if there's an election and EVERYONE votes. n/t CousinIT Apr 2020 #18
Fuck Each & Every Single Repub sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #19
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse maybe? yellowdogintexas Apr 2020 #31
Watch out - Cornered Rat Syndrome coming. Tiger8 Apr 2020 #20
Now, they notice! kentuck Apr 2020 #21
Perhaps a good campaign ad would be Rep Schiff warning that le douche ResistantAmerican17 Apr 2020 #22
There's no radically improved course to put the country on.... paleotn Apr 2020 #24
I think Biden will win 35 states sobenji Apr 2020 #27
You really pwned us libtards, didn't you, Republicans? Grokenstein Apr 2020 #29
Well said. crickets Apr 2020 #53
They "stuck it out" with Herbert Hoover of the Coronavirus cojoel Apr 2020 #30
The GOP braintrust must be considering a product rebrand. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #32
There are so many good names for the CONS. calimary Apr 2020 #54
Just wait Calimary....it will get a lot worse. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #55
They can go cry someplace else. I have no sympathy. Aristus Apr 2020 #33
"A radically improved course"........oh brother, that's a good one.😆😆😆😆😆 Firestorm49 Apr 2020 #34
And that fact will make the reThugs ever more dangerous. And one more thought as to how we c-rational Apr 2020 #46
Yes, They are worried . . McTurtle Just bought $21.8M of NC Ads OldManTarHeel Apr 2020 #47
Dems had best NOT take GOP losing for granted! How many times have we thought the repugs were on the scarletwoman Apr 2020 #51
The way I look at it is that they are always Jspur Apr 2020 #56
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. I will predict a net gain of 8 GOP senate seats to the democrats come Nov 3rd. It will be an
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:29 AM
Apr 2020

annihilation at the polls for GOP everywhere as their zeal for destroying govt has finally sent them over the ledge.

Well done putin and trump

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
43. If so then no mercy given. Get rid of filibuster and jam progressive legislation down
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:56 AM
Apr 2020

the throats of Republicans. Then appoint a truth and reconciliation commission to deal with disinformation. Go after Fox’s broadcast license for their complicity in the virus and destruction of our society. Prosecute Trump and family. No more tax exempt status for religious organizations who involve themselves in politics. Break-up Facebook, Google and others. Transform our society so that regular Americans understand the good government can do. Most of all, impeach Kavenaugh and other Federal judges who weren’t qualified. We need term limits. Appoint Warren to head a commission for the overhaul of our government to address voting rights, term limits etc. Reverse all Trump’s executive orders, rejoin Paris Climate, Iran deal and TPP, if possible. The list is endless but if Dems can sweep all 3 branches in Nov. we can transform America for the next generation. Trump maybe the best thing that ever happened to Dems. I hope Joe is up to the task because we cannot go back to the Obama days. I love Obama, he did a great job in the face of Republican obstructionists, but we need real progressive change. So many good Dems like AOC, Mayor Pete must be part of the administration to transform
America. So many priorities, repeal tax cuts and raise taxes on rich, climate change etc. etc. But it all hinges on winning in Nov.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
44. "going back to the Obama days cannot happen." I would add...
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:03 AM
Apr 2020

that going back to the Clinton days won't happen as well. This is not the time to focus on balancing budgets and expansion of the earned income tax credits.

Biden has to govern within the current context of our time. There is no golden age to go back to.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
48. I agree, Trump just may well usher in an era of progressive change that rivals the likes of
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:30 AM
Apr 2020

FDR’s administration. I cannot envision 4 more years of this. Trump has caused so much pain and anguish in so many peoples lives. My 4 kids and wife think I am crazy because I was outraged at Bush’s 8 years and yelled and screamed at the tv. Back then I made my kids watch Kieth Olberman’s Special Comments which were joyous. Then for 8 years I didn’t have to worry about politics because of Obama. And we all though that when Hillary was elected we would be sitting pretty especially with SCOTUS instead look at where we are at. The Bush presidency was a cake walk compared to this guy. Now my kids, who are all adults now, call me out because I said all the time nothing could be worse than Bush. At least Bush went quietly and I think realized he made some huge mistakes. Little did I know that there could be a worse president than Bush. Moreover, we must not forget that both Bush and Trump were immensely successful In passing their RW agendas. Bush pretty much got almost everything he wanted to accomplish passed through Congress and so has Trump. Horrific policies and consequences for America but both have been wildly successful at destroying America.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
2. Dear Donny: keep talking.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:29 AM
Apr 2020

This may end up costing the DNC/DSCC candidates far less the more you keep talking!

PCIntern

(25,556 posts)
4. They know the REAL numbers...
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:31 AM
Apr 2020

Many people who hated Hillary because they were told to, who voted for a businessman to “shake things up”, who thought that his abuse was “funny” and”clever” are grudgingly admitting that they made a “mistake”.

As far as I was concerned the whole thing should be hung on them: they were the barrier that prevented the fascists from outright rule, rather than their usual insidious deviousness And Nazi
Tendencies.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
50. I know some of those people
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:36 AM
Apr 2020

I have had 3 people openly say they aren’t going to vote for trump again. However I know couple of hardcore conservatives that voted 3rd party in 16 that will be voting for the orange one this time around.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
5. Republicans coast to coast will be wiped out
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:32 AM
Apr 2020

This won’t just be a blue tsunami.

It will be the great flood.

We will cleanse the government of republicans and trumpism.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
38. I'd like to believe that, but considering
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:49 AM
Apr 2020

who the backers are in the US and abroad for Trump and other Rs, I will believe it when I see it. Even with a blue flood, there is nothing that Trump's national and international backers would not do to keep him in office. If he does not have the votes, they will find a way to falsify the count, nullify the vote, or drag the results out in court.

Trump will never accept a loss at the polls.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
39. I agree but we also want them gone for at least a decade, if not two!
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:50 AM
Apr 2020

Never again let the R-scums near the levers of government for a lifetime, especially their lifetime if they die of COVID-19.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
6. Much too late
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:32 AM
Apr 2020

To change course now.

With Mitch and his Grim Realer brag. Now wanting blue states to file bankruptcy, 6 million suddenly unemployed, mid managing the Virus crisis, crashed Stock market, they can not fix this in 6 months.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
37. Changing course must be a major shift in
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM
Apr 2020

the tax burden. Think FDR, Truman, and the 92% tax on wealthy incomes that brought about the rise in the middle class. Think about who now controls the decisions of governing and how that must change.

Economically, it’s corporatists and corporations that dictate those decisions. The major change must be the shifting of the tax burden on the wealthy and the corporations, and the distribution of wealth toward strengthening the middle and working classes. Otherwise, we’ll just be reshuffling the same cards from the same deck.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
9. worse than trump's handling of the coronavirus is the republicans non-handling of trump
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:33 AM
Apr 2020

not a peep out of the mute motherfuckers

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
16. They Could Have Protected Themselves
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:10 AM
Apr 2020

But, they were so afraid of that cult member base. Which is stupid, because:
- if the country was on a good course, primary challenges had only an outside chance of succeeding,
- those people upset because an R pushed back on PINO were going to vote R anyway.
They panicked themselves into thinking the cult was all powerful, and they are likely to pay for that lack of vision.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
26. That's the really mind-boggling thing.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:48 AM
Apr 2020

Not a one of them even distancing themselves from this asshole, let alone speaking out against any of Trump's lunacy. No big exodus from the party, other than Justin Amash. No nothing. It's as if they're tacitly supporting Trump, and hoping that if they keep hiding, nobody will notice. Which is probably the actual case with the vast majority of them.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
52. Yep. And a lot of them 'took the money' and have grown accustomed to it.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 12:10 PM
Apr 2020

The rubles were too good to turn down, and they want more. They just don't want to give up the money -- and the power that goes with it. Sadly, it can be that simple.

 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
40. Republicans
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

Yes, the screaming silence from the Senate Republicans. What will happen when the Orange one throws them under the bus? You know it's coming, everyone goes under the bus sooner or later. We are a resilient nation, and we've been through much, but this, this is horrific.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. Tuff Patooties --
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:39 AM
Apr 2020

They should have thought about that during impeachment. They could have replaced him with Pence, who is certainly stupid and spinless, but not nearly as awful as Dimwit.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,007 posts)
23. To be honest, many were NOT preventable. But tRump could have achieved Canada's rates, if he tried
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:40 AM
Apr 2020

tRump and Greed Over People didn't try.

Canada is running at less than half the cases per thousand, and almost less than one third deaths per million. I hope Canada can continue to do relatively well.

So you might say that 32,000 deaths were preventable.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
36. I fear that about 32K of these deaths were preventable
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

But I fear that the US alone might have 100,000 deaths from COVID by the end of the year, particularly if we have a flu-season resurgence.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
14. Given the Florida super stupid governor, and beach mayors - could be
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:56 AM
Apr 2020

really terrible for the 'cons in another month

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
35. AMJoy reporting this morning of spikes in cases...
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:28 AM
Apr 2020

In Wisconsin after the election fiasco, and in Florida after the beach openings.

There is a big problem, though, I'm still hearing tons of bothsiderism out there. The old 'well Dems are just as bad' crap.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
42. In WI, I really don't think the election fiasco had much to do with their now soaring rates.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

Keep in mind this is a majority R state, if not by much. I do think that the greater cause is/was the Republican voters who ignored all the warnnings and chalked it up to a Democratic hoax. Wonder who promulgated this idea?

captain queeg

(10,208 posts)
17. Only one thing to do, and it's not to start acting responsible
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:22 AM
Apr 2020

Cheat, lie, do whatever they can to sabotage the election. Like their fearless leader they only have one trick.

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
20. Watch out - Cornered Rat Syndrome coming.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:37 AM
Apr 2020

Every top republican is a psychopath. Things will get very dangerous.

ResistantAmerican17

(3,809 posts)
22. Perhaps a good campaign ad would be Rep Schiff warning that le douche
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:40 AM
Apr 2020

Can’t ever be trusted — followed with turtle fucker’s quote about working with drumph in the trial. Lotta bodies on mitch’s plate.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
24. There's no radically improved course to put the country on....
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:44 AM
Apr 2020

The damage is done and you can't go back to January and undo it.

Grokenstein

(5,725 posts)
29. You really pwned us libtards, didn't you, Republicans?
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM
Apr 2020

Nobody--nobody--looked at Trump and said, "We need a businessman running the country." That's some revisionist horseshit I've heard from more than one pundit, and more than one acquaintance. It's a lie.

No, they saw a celebrity, an entertainingly loud and obnoxious buffoon who would go to Washington and "stir things up." Sure, he'd hurt people, they knew that...but they wanted people hurt. The idea amused them. They told themselves it would be other people who got hurt, and that's funny to them. And if things got too far out of hand, well, the Dems would step in and clean up. Besides, everyone knows Both Sides Bad, right?

I wonder how many of these morons still tell themselves politics is a joke, a game of absolutely no consequence to their "fiercely independent" (worthless) asses. From yesterday forward, critical thinking should be treated by our educational system with the same reverence with which Republicans pretend to care about prayer.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
53. Well said.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 12:14 PM
Apr 2020

They also saw someone who let them be racist in public again. Loudly racist. As usual, the media helped things along, because ratings and $$. *sigh*

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
32. The GOP braintrust must be considering a product rebrand.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM
Apr 2020

Like Philip Morris rebranding to Altera.

Let's see, possible new names-

Old White Peoples Party?
2nd Amendment Party?
Friends of Big Oil Party?
Organized Crime Party?
State's Rights Party? (ha, that's a good one)
Party of God?
Better than Being a Demonrat Party?
Porta-Potty Party?
Putin's Puppies Party?

They have so many directions they can take this....







calimary

(81,322 posts)
54. There are so many good names for the CONS.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:03 PM
Apr 2020

I like Greedy Old Pirates too. As well as all of the selections you listed, OAITW r.2.0! One of my favorites is the Grab Our Pensions Party.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
55. Just wait Calimary....it will get a lot worse.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:07 PM
Apr 2020

Whatever veneer these assholes have is gonna be ripped from their facade. They are all in with Trump/Putin. Schiff's charges never went away.... A BUNCH OF COWARDLY QUISLINGS FAILED TO CONFIRM.

Sorry, capped accidentally, but thought, eh, leave as is.

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
33. They can go cry someplace else. I have no sympathy.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM
Apr 2020

For nearly four years, repubs have been livin' the dream, drankin' libtard tears, and basking in the fulfillment of their life-long dream: having an incontestably idiotic fuckdribble as President, validating their own putrid fecklessness.

Now the bill has come due. I am not moved to tears...

c-rational

(2,594 posts)
46. And that fact will make the reThugs ever more dangerous. And one more thought as to how we
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:26 AM
Apr 2020

we got here, and it was Hillary's correct call that it was a vast right wing conspiracy. They have all been complicit, ie.e all rethugs, and the media as a whole. In the beginning of the dumpster's term there were excuses that he did not know better. Failure to call him out on his lies. How we could have fallen so low - the frog in a pot of slow boiling water comes to mind. Past time to jump out.

OldManTarHeel

(435 posts)
47. Yes, They are worried . . McTurtle Just bought $21.8M of NC Ads
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:30 AM
Apr 2020

More than any other state by far. Cunningham beating Tillis could be the deciding race as to who controls the chamber.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
51. Dems had best NOT take GOP losing for granted! How many times have we thought the repugs were on the
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 11:53 AM
Apr 2020

ropes, only to see them take more victories?

They cheat, they lie, they play dirty, and they have stacks and stacks of oligarch money behind their efforts - the 0.01% who are determined to own the whole world, who rely on the GOP to make it so.

Over confidence about our chances in 2020 would be a grave mistake.

Jspur

(578 posts)
56. The way I look at it is that they are always
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:25 PM
Apr 2020

going to exist. I wish they would go away forever but they won't. I made that mistake in '08 that they were finished but I learned the hard way that they are here to stay. Like you said they are backed by the super wealthy and also they have Fox News media,radio, and at least 40-45 percent of the electorate always backing them. Even if they lose in 2020 expect them to hijack Biden just like they did to Obama after '08. I guarantee you they will have another bs movement like the Tea Party movement.

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