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Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:14 AM Apr 2020

Joe Biden is not taking advantage of a golden opportunity.

With all the nonsense President Lysol is spouting, Biden should be publicly jumping on all the stupid statements. He should be on TV every day pointing out the nonsense and idiocy. His campaign needs to get tough and get moving. I’m frustrated with him.

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Joe Biden is not taking advantage of a golden opportunity. (Original Post) Cousin Dupree Apr 2020 OP
he should Matthew28 Apr 2020 #1
Biden already put out his plan in March. You just missed it. Claustrum Apr 2020 #6
How does he "get on TV?" Eliot Rosewater Apr 2020 #2
Ask. Cousin Dupree Apr 2020 #5
The de facto Democratic Party candidate for President should be able to get on TV Caliman73 Apr 2020 #19
Buying ads? cwydro Apr 2020 #28
I personally don't think he should Claustrum Apr 2020 #3
it's not about the pandemic. It's about pointing out the idiocy and irresponsibility of Pres. Cousin Dupree Apr 2020 #9
All of Trump stupid words never really hurt him, his poll numbers are always 40% ish Claustrum Apr 2020 #11
He's giving Trump enough rope. Aristus Apr 2020 #4
Contrary to what the media has claimed, that strategy actually worked well for HRC in 2016. StevieM Apr 2020 #26
Thanks! Aristus Apr 2020 #27
None of that matters Loki Liesmith Apr 2020 #7
With out a doubt BlueJac Apr 2020 #8
Play hard ball, some times . . . the old pols have a sense of 'timing makes a difference' empedocles Apr 2020 #10
that and cherishing old relics Nature Man Apr 2020 #12
Don't want to 'cherish' old relics like Clint Eastwood, but good to have him in our Biden tent empedocles Apr 2020 #14
What will it serve? The GOP smear brigade. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #13
Hopefully it'll turn up in one of his powerful ads. Talitha Apr 2020 #15
On rare occasions, I agree with David Brooks of the NYT and PBS News Hour mcar Apr 2020 #16
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #22
Agree. Notably, there are severe limits to what a man not in office Hortensis Apr 2020 #24
Exactly mcar Apr 2020 #25
I've thought this for awhile now. MoonRiver Apr 2020 #17
Well, some of that could be the media.. mvd Apr 2020 #18
Naw. Let Trump give more ammo with his weird crap ismnotwasm Apr 2020 #20
Biden absolutely should let this be. Trump is shooting himself in the foot karynnj Apr 2020 #21
Yes, he, his campaign, our party and many Democratic Hortensis Apr 2020 #23

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
1. he should
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:15 AM
Apr 2020

be jumping down Trumps throat and making the case why he is the sane one and the leader that we need...This and putting out solid ideas to move America forward. I just don't get why he doesn't fight?

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
6. Biden already put out his plan in March. You just missed it.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:18 AM
Apr 2020

Biden also tried to go on CNN and MSNBC and you missed them as well. It's partly the media's fault that Biden's interviews doesn't get repeated in every news show.

But this is the disadvantage for not saying the most outrage things and only speak sensible things that almost every other sane person is saying. The most outrage things (Trump stupid words) will get repeated non-stop but the sane person will be ignored because other people are saying the same thing.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
19. The de facto Democratic Party candidate for President should be able to get on TV
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:17 PM
Apr 2020

At least MSNBC and CNN would likely be good with having him on. I have seen Biden on Morning Joe a few times already in the last couple of weeks.

I agree that he needs to step up his presence.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
28. Buying ads?
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:30 PM
Apr 2020

Just a guess.

Besides the fact, pretty sure if he came out guns blazing at the ignorant things the idiot said yesterday, he would get press.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
3. I personally don't think he should
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:16 AM
Apr 2020

People will see any of his critics as political and discount it. No one should politicize the pandemic. Trump shouldn't do daily. Biden shouldn't either.

Cousin Dupree

(1,866 posts)
9. it's not about the pandemic. It's about pointing out the idiocy and irresponsibility of Pres.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:22 AM
Apr 2020

Lysol’s words. Some people need to have that pointed out to them

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
11. All of Trump stupid words never really hurt him, his poll numbers are always 40% ish
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:27 AM
Apr 2020

From bragging about "grab them by the p" to impeachment, nothing has hurt him much. The polling fluctuate but come back when it's under 40% or over 50%, otherwise, it doesn't move enough.

Just last night, I talked about the lysol shit with my parents. Their response? "You are just a Trump hater".

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
4. He's giving Trump enough rope.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:16 AM
Apr 2020

Jumping on every statement could lead to Biden-fatigue, which we really can't afford.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
26. Contrary to what the media has claimed, that strategy actually worked well for HRC in 2016.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:32 PM
Apr 2020

Unfortunately, James Comey undid all of that. With some added help from Vladimir Putin.

I see you just reached 50,000 posts. Congratulations!!

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
14. Don't want to 'cherish' old relics like Clint Eastwood, but good to have him in our Biden tent
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:35 AM
Apr 2020

pissing out, than . . . '

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
13. What will it serve? The GOP smear brigade.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:33 AM
Apr 2020

Anyone who votes Dump is on the wrong side of history. It’s that simple.

If people are too dumb to see that then they are lost anyway.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
16. On rare occasions, I agree with David Brooks of the NYT and PBS News Hour
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:11 PM
Apr 2020

During last Friday's "Shields and Brooks" segment on the News Hour, Judy Woodruff asked if Biden is being hurt by the relative lack of attention, inability to campaign, etc.

Brooks said, "Biden is fine." I agree.

Biden is working with his teams, issuing plans and policies, doing podcasts and virtual town halls. His poll numbers are steady and solid while IMPOTUS' are going down.

It's April and there's a pandemic that this maladministration is making worse. Only those of us who are involved in Democratic politics (as volunteers) are paying attention to the presidential campaign.

Biden is fine.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Agree. Notably, there are severe limits to what a man not in office
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:35 PM
Apr 2020

can do in the middle of a pandemic that demands huge action. Better that the electorate see President Trump and Majority Leader McConnell failing to help them from the WH and senate, not Biden from his basement.

Both would of course be grateful if Biden kept pushing himself into their disaster and distracting attention for the next several months because they wouldn't look any worse for his badmouthing. He would by association.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
17. I've thought this for awhile now.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:13 PM
Apr 2020

Don't understand his reluctance to get out front of this obvious lunatic.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
18. Well, some of that could be the media..
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:13 PM
Apr 2020

Giving Trump all that airtime and neglecting to cover Biden.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
20. Naw. Let Trump give more ammo with his weird crap
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:21 PM
Apr 2020

Biden will emerge as a literal beacon of normal statesmanship. Save money too.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
21. Biden absolutely should let this be. Trump is shooting himself in the foot
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:24 PM
Apr 2020

When an opponent is shooting himself in the food, there is no reason to get in on the story. Now, where the candidate should not get involved, ANY surrogate SHOULD point out that where Biden has a sane plan, Trump's ideas will kill people if they follow his advice. Someone should ask Trump and campaign surrogates if, Ivanka was positive, would he want her injected?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. Yes, he, his campaign, our party and many Democratic
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:29 PM
Apr 2020

action groups are. Fox and other RW media keep having to defend the indefensible.

Right now Biden's prediction that Trump will try to delay the election is headline news.

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