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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden predicts President Trump will try to 'kick back the election somehow' beyond November
Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden predicted President Donald Trump will try to postpone the US November election in an attempt to win.
'Mark my words, I think he is gonna try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can't be held,' Biden said during an online fundraiser on Thursday.
The 77-year-old former vice president said it is 'the only way he thinks he can possibly win.'
Six months before US voters head to the polls, Trump's mind is already in election mode.
But with a pandemic raging and job losses climbing to 26.4 million on Thursday, Trump's path to victory may be harder than he anticipated.
Mr Biden, highlighting Trump's recent threat to veto emergency funding for the US Post Office, claimed it was an example of the president's intention to 'do all he can to make it very hard for people to vote.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8252559/Biden-predicts-Trump-try-postpone-US-election.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
JI7
(89,262 posts)people from voting or having their votes from being counted. the pig barr and others will play a role in all of this also. we need to be ready for all of this.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)He'll lie, then claim Democrats are corrupting the upcoming election, so he'll by declaration change it while he and others rig it one way or another with putin and others helping him.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It's set into law, and only Congress can change it. Not too bloody likely.
Biden is baiting him to make an idiot of himself.
Skittles
(153,182 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 24, 2020, 10:02 AM - Edit history (1)
It would take a congress passing a law to change it. Not going to happen.
Vogon_Glory
(9,127 posts)The further he moves it into flu season, the more likely Election Day is likely to move into a COVID resurgence and the more likely people will remember why theyre angry and scared right now.
I dont see Trump doing what needs to be done to protect the nations public health this summer or early autumn. Do you?
ItsjustMe
(11,239 posts)we are screwed, this Country will never survive another 4 years of Trump.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)all over the nation.
The Republicans always grab every opportunity to hand a no-longer-USPS over to their cronies, pandemic chaos just another, and I kind of forgot that it's desperately important to our democratic processes.
SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)voting they are killing their own republican seniors, who want to vote safely too. Obviously they don't care about their own grandparents, parents, etc. when voting puts them at risk.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)just like Democratic seniors, and virtually all are united in voting for them to continue for their children and grandchildren. The people McConnell and company serve want all these big progressive programs dead and buried.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)defies any remotely sane logic.
The Cretin has never been out of election mode. Not for one miserable second of his term.
He is a psycho frontman for Republican domestic terrorists.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)ecstatic
(32,727 posts)about it. Congress needs to protect us from that possibility. Now.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It was set into law in 1845.
Pelosi will laugh at any demand DT makes for them to make a new one that gives him power to change it.
durablend
(7,464 posts)But he's doing them anyway.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)from doing, because no one ever decided to do and say those things. There was an assumption that any POTUS would be concerned about the office and not want to run afoul of ethical expectations. There was never a need seen for this prohibitions on paper before because there was an assumption that a POTUS would follow convention, would be mentally stable, and be concerned about the appearance of conflict of interest and impropriety, and that they would fear those of their own party would hold them accountable for ethical violations, and no POTUS has tested the limits like this one has. The founders did not anticipate that a POTUS' own party would conspire to keep an mentally and ethically unfit POTUS in power instead of removing them via impeachment or the 25th amendment.
Among the things that are shady but not specifically prohibited: Choosing inexperienced friends, associates family members for offical positions, not putting all his financial holdings in a blind trust, refusing to release his financial records and tax returns, billing taxpayers expenses he incurs along with his security detail and family members who are staffers at his own resorts, harassing enemies on Twitter, making racist remarks, firing any POTUS appointee that he feels is disloyal, discrediting his own intelligence community's assesment in favor of a hostile foreign leader's assesment of security issues.
The courts have the final say in the validity of his executive orders. Some have been struck down, and Trump has lost some cases that he wanted to support his lawyers claims of his authority.
After Nixon resigned there were more prohibitions put in place on executive power, but Trump has had his lawyers working to find what there are no prohibitions on doing. In fact, there were staffers who simply didn't carry out many of his orders early on when they knew that what he was asking would be prohibited.
Tell me, do you really, truly think that he could remove Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Speaker Pelosi and make Bernie Sanders the Democratic nominee, just because he's done some other things you think were outside his power? He certainly would have done all those things if he could, don't you think?
So yes, there are indeed limits on his power that have held, and the date of the election is one of those things that is specifically stated to be outside of his control.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I think Biden knows it is impossible to move the election without legislation from Congress.
Agolf Twitler cant delay the election with an executive order. And Biden knows that.
But he wants the less to ask him about it. He can either say commit to having the election as scheduled or he can suggest to the press lets see what happens. Maybe I will maybe I wont. And then when everyone informs he cant move the elections date he will throw another conniption fit.
I think this is a preemptive chess move by Biden and either move by Donny Dumbfuck yields a sacrificed piece for Biden.
UncleNoel
(864 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not too likely..
An executive order would not do it.
Biden is baiting Trump.
zanana1
(6,125 posts)I think he'll try anything that creeps into his tiny little mind. How many times have we thought "He can't do that". Then he does?
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)This is different than the travel ban order. There is no law that specifically stated that there can be no bans on travel.
And no, he doesn't "get away with everything." Many of his edicts have been ruled to be outside of his authority by the courts, as much as it feels like he gets away with everything outside the clearly deliniated powers of the Presidency.
You do understand that there is no legal way for him to remove Ruth Bader Ginsberg, or Speaker Pelosi, or make Bernie Sanders the Democratic nominee, as much as he would like to. He could try, but it would go nowhere. Many times we have found that the law doesn't prevent him from making some decisions, and that's what's frustrating.
There is a very specific law that states the election will be the Tuesday after the first Monday in November.
I think Biden is playing with his mind, perhaps making him think that he has a leak.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)It would take a congress to change it.
Pelosi would laugh in his face.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)If the compact between the states is broken, all bets are off.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,399 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)or he wants Trump to fire back publicly that he has the power to move the election, and then have the public educated on the fact that POTUS has no power to do this.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,399 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So there's that.
If Trump was to publicly state that he had the power to move the election, he would be publicly contradicted, even by McConnell.
Pelosi would have a field day talking about how power-hungry and deluded he is to claim he could.
The comment starts a conversation that can't end well for Trump unless he stays silent, and he's not known for that.