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[kentuck]

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[mucifer]

1. antibiotics work for bacterial infections. There are antiviral meds. But, none that work for covid

[cwydro]

7. Thank you.

To my horror, I’ve seen a post here about someone who self-diagnosed themselves with Covid, then said how they were taking the hydroxychloriquin as well as a Z pak. Now we know that combination is deadly.

I found this really scary to read. No one should be self-diagnosing, nor prescribing themselves drugs.

[liberalla]

2. I took it for strep throat. It kicked ass for that! Otherwise, don't know much about it.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

3. Antibiotics are for bacterial infections, not viral infections.

At least that's what my doctors have told me.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. Antibiotics Are For Bacteria

They may, in some cases be using zpac as a guard against bacterial pneumonia in someone already battling CV. Not sure, just guessing.
But, I'm aware of no viral diseases that doctors prescribe antibiotics to cure.
As I understand it, the mechanism of antibiotics has to do with respiration or consumption. Viruses do neither.
Experts should be able to better define things, but that's how I recall what I've been told.

[Mosby]

11. Drs are prescribing zpac due to pneumonia comorbidity

A viral infection opens the door to bacterial infections in the lungs.

I think blood thinners are being given to covid-19 patients now, but I'm not sure.

[ProfessorGAC]

15. That's What I Thought

A hedge against things getting much worse.
Even with sanitizing agents, the mechanisms on bacteria & viruses are very different. And that doesn't have to include the vagaries of body chemistry.

[kentuck]

17. I read that some young people were dying of strokes.

They developed blood clots. They are learning as they go along.

[Voltaire2]

5. A Virus is not a Bacteria.

[displacedtexan]

6. I've had success with it because I'm allergic to penicillin & cipro.

I've always been told that it does not work on viruses.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

8. Azithromycin doesn't work on viruses

And its inclusion with the chloroquine was to prevent secondary bacterial infections that could pop up.

That said, I am usually prescribed either azithromycin or clindomycin due to being allergic to penicillin. Works well for me.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. You should delete this. Antibiotics don't kill viruses. This is an irresponsible thread.

[Mike 03]

10. The Langone Medical Center doctors who work on SiriusXM's

Doctor Radio and are on the front line every day always sound lukewarm when they talk about Azithromycin and say they give it 1) if a secondary bacterial infection is suspected on top of the COVID or sometimes 2) in an attempt to prevent a secondary bacterial infection occurring. They are brutally honest and say they are trying certain things based on a combination of assumptions, early clinical data and drug availability. They are even having second thoughts about intubation/ventilation. They truly are not excited about anything, not even Remdesivir (and definitely not Hydroxychloroquine). They are more excited about proning and oxygen than the drugs currently being conjectured for COVID.

Every damned one of these doctors begins his/her show by saying, "I've never seen anything like this in my life."

This virus is not understood.

But the situation changes every day, and there could be a breakthrough tomorrow.

[procon]

12. I've taken Azithromycin several times.

First when I was in hospital with both pneumonia and the regular flu. I felt fine, just weak and tired, and that was the med they put me on.

I've taken it several times subsequently for bronchitis and flair ups with COPD. It seems effective at least in reducing my symptoms, and there isn't any side effects.

Azithromycin seems to work with me for my existing problems. I don't know if it would be equally effective if I got the corona virus... Hopefully I wont ever need to put that to the test.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. "I don't know if it would be equally effective if I got the corona virus."

It would not, because antibiotics do not work on viruses.

[ancianita]

14. I wouldn't take it, if I were you (which I'm not). It's an atom bomb that kills your entire GI tract

microbes, just to kill one pathogen -- which is why there's diarrhea when it's taken.

You'll have to rebuild your gastrointestinal microbiome, which is a stress on your immunity system.

Stressing your immunity system weakens your central defense for fighting COVID. Strengthen your immunity system as you strengthen all your body systems with over the counter oxygenation stuff.

I recommend high oxygenation drugs used to treat altitude sickness. It's OTC, and a preventive and ongoing treatment that a number of doctors have recommended for helping all your systems function better, including your immunity system.

They are

acetazolamide, or Diamox
Nifedipine
Dexamethasone
Liquid Oxygen

With an 80% death rate for ventilators, there are doctors (Cameron Kyle Sidell) who say that oxygenation can't work solely through the cv eaten lung tissue. To improve the cells' ability to oxygenate during the pulmonary gas exchange in lungs, oxygenation that can't happen with ravaged lung cells. It's what ventilators that force oxygen cannot do -- improve cell performance.

I've used Liquid Oxygen in high altitudes in NM and CO. It works. The copper in it helps red blood cells bind better with oxygen, which gets delivered to all body systems, unlike the oxygen received only through compromised lungs on ventilators.

imo, it stands to reason that if all systems are better oxygenated, the immunity system and the heart are not as stressed, and can do their jobs to fight off cv wherever else it travels in the body (autopsies show COVID-19 virus has been found in all major organs beyond the lungs).

My son was diagnosed with high altitude sickness soon after moving to Silver City, NM, elevation 6,000 ft. His diamox prescription worked.

Mountain climbers on Mt. Everest use these OTC drugs to prepare 2 weeks in advance for their highest climbs.

I've just received a double order of LiquidOxygen and Diamox, and will get back with info about their effectiveness if I get cv symptoms here in Florida.

Please. Rethink this.

[Mike 03]

16. Great point about the microbiome.

There is some suspicion that the condition of the gut microbiome may influence outcomes. (It is just a hypothesis at this point). So it might not be a good idea to imperil that with antibiotics.

[ancianita]

18. There are great books on our microbiome. "I Contain Multitudes" is the best out there.

More than one doctor has said and written, that treating one bacterial pathogen with penicillin is like finding a rat in your alley and dropping an atom bomb on the whole city to kill it.