50,000 Deaths. . . .

[BigDemVoter]

LBJ and Tricky Dick Nixon were in charge during the Vietnam War in which we lost approximately 58,220 Americans in 10 years (March 1965-April 1975). . . Through Pussy-Grabber's narcissism, incompetence, ignorance, stupidity, and absolute lack of ANY empathy, whatsoever, we are at or above 50,000 deaths in roughly 5 weeks. I was no fan of LBJ and despised Nixon, but in comparison to what we have now, I would take either one of them in one second.

I think a good number of people on DU are about my age, as my entire youth was affected by the carnage in Vietnam: both American and Vietnamese.

WTF is this going to do to people? We have the worst POSSIBLE person in charge. I simply cannot THINK of anybody else who would be worse, honestly. Hell, my DOG would do a better job than Pussy-Grabber, as AT LEAST she could have smart peole make decisions for her. Pussy-Grabber won't allow that, and Pussy-Grabber has nothing but fools, charlatans and ass-kissers around him. . .

I am at work and have tons of shit to do, but I am sitting here, stunned, in front of my computer screen. 50,000 unnecessary American deaths. . . . Jesus Christ. And I have friends calling me from Europe asking what the FUCK is going on in this country? I cannot even answer that question.

[Canoe52]

1. LBJ maybe, would be a stretch for the Tricky Dick.

[brush]

2. Yep, 50k and rising. W would even be better than trump.

[Stuart G]

5. Anyone would be better than Trump.All, yes "ALL OF US HERE AT DU". BETTER THAN TRUMP!!!

[Initech]

7. W understood the risks of a pandemic.

Trump on the other hand, doesn't, and doesn't care. He is the biggest piece of shit on the planet.

[LAS14]

3. Remember when the long term estimate got revised downto 60,000? By August, maybe?

I don't think it's gonna happen.

[John Fante]

35. There will over 60k dead by May 1st.

[Stuart G]

4. This period in history is unbelievable. I wish there was more to say..

50,000 deaths!..

[malaise]

6. Just wait for next week this time

You haven't seen numbers yet

[BigDemVoter]

8. We are almost at the number for Vietnam.

Next will be the number for WWI and then WWII and then the godawful Civil War. . . . I don't think this is any exaggeration.

[malaise]

9. Yep - the combined numbers for WWI, the Korean War, Afghanistan and Iraq have already

been passed.
Thank Don the criminally negligent Con and remember he's says you must thank him because without his great response it would have been over a million.

ReTHUGs will pay for this

[KS Toronado]

24. Wonder what donOLD tRUMP is going to say when we get to a million deaths?

[IronLionZion]

25. America lost more soldiers in WW1 to pandemic than to combat

116,516 total
disease (63,114)
combat (53,402)

https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/war_losses_usa/2014-10-08

[malaise]

29. good point

and I was wrong on the WWI combat total

[USALiberal]

11. Why is next week going to be worse? Nt

[gibraltar72]

14. Cumulative effect.

[BigDemVoter]

15. While the numbers are not climbing as quickly in places like NYC,

they are starting to really explode in smaller metropolitan areas. Look at rural places with some of these meat packing plants with huge numbers of infected employees. . . . . I haven't committed all of them to memory, but just off the top of my head, I believe I remember something along the line of 650 infected employees in a plant in South Dakota and another in Iowa? Also, Arkansas just had a giant outbreak in their state prison system with 600+ infected inmates. Remember that for each person infected, they generally infect 2 more people. . .It is exponential. . . Also, they are finding that there were a lot of deaths that were not initially attributed to Covid19, so this will add to totals. . . I am wondering what kind of rolling disaster we'll see out of Florida & Georgia. This is not going to end well.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. Illinois Too

Hormel plant here had 24 infections out of 100 employees.
Lots of close quarter work at those places, I'd imagine.

[malaise]

18. This is just hitting the South

and most of those states are in for a scary awakening

[USALiberal]

19. Thank you! Nt

[stage left]

20. Some of us in the South are awake

and scared to death.

[IronLionZion]

26. Some GOP governors should wake up

instead of opening their states up for barbershops, massages, gyms, and the economically critical tattoo parlors

[stage left]

36. Fat chance

Of old Foghorn Leghorn doing that.

[littlemissmartypants]

31. The case growth is exponential as opposed to one case leading to one additional infection

One case leads to ~3 to ~4 cases and those 3 or 4 each lead to 3 or 4 more and so on.

case one leads to 2, 3, 4= 4 to 5 cases

case 2 +3, 3+3, 4+3, 5+3=9 +4, 12 + 5=17
and so on...

Forgive my sloppy math, but do you get the idea?

[USALiberal]

33. Well cases are staying about the same daily....

between 25k - 32k daily.

So I wondered if they had a reason why it would be a extra bad week.

[littlemissmartypants]

34. My guess is adding exponential growth and more testing and you get an increase. nt

[Dave Starsky]

10. HEY! HEY! DONALD J!!

HOW MANY PEOPLE YA KILL TODAY?!

[Wellstone ruled]

12. Ironic,

Private Last Class needed five deferments in order to be not included in the Nam Count. But these new numbers will make him wish he never opened his Mouth(Anus).

But,he survived Studio 54 and all his Clap Infections and just got a bad case of Herpes.

[gibraltar72]

13. Some dumb Sumbitch on facebook posted a reply to something I put on

said imagine how bad it would be if Trump hadn't acted quickly in banning flights from China. Then told me I should watch his briefings if I wanted facts.

[Kaiserguy]

22. The last time someone post that kind of crap to me

I happily pointed out to him how many lies Trump has told and added that maybe he should spend some time on fact checking before he made a fool of himself again. Or to limit his posting to people who are as clueless as he was. Never heard from him again

[gibraltar72]

23. I tell them I bet you get your news from a source who filed court papers

saying false statements are protected free speech. Even if you die.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. It's an under count. It may be 20% or more higher when Excess Deaths are factored in.

There will be fewer deaths due to influenza and fewer due to traffic accidents.

And no, red hatters, there is not a mass suicide wave because the economy is bad.

[AtheistCrusader]

27. Shit, I saw some numbers around that this morning.

I'll see if I can find them. It was the first solid preliminary effort at finding the true deaths number.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

21. Deadly dumbass donald's work compared to South Korea ...

[Warpy]

28. If there is a second wave next winter

we are likely to see deaths in the million range.

I have an answer for that question. This country is being run by one of the most incompetent businessmen that particular field has ever produced, kept going only by an inherited fortune he kept using to leverage debt, sweet talking money out of people who definitely should have known better.

As businessmen, they see profit/loss and nothing else. Supporting the people in this country through a disaster is a loss on their ledger sheets. Money to big corporations to make up for lost sales is money better spent, in their narrow vision.

In addition to the businessman's myopia, his staff has another characteristic, sheer ignorance of everything they have been tasked with managing. They have been chosen for their ability to flatter Dumpster Fire adequately, not for their ability to do any of the jobs they're "acting" at doing.

Because of Putin's interference ad Comey's treachery, this asshole was installed against the will of the people, who knew better by a nearly 3 million vote margin.

That's why.

[tinrobot]

30. Don't forget, it also took over a decade for Vietnam to claim that many.

The virus is doing it in weeks/months.

[niyad]

32. Some of us here on DU are somewhat younger than dirt. .I remember hearing casualty reports

in Vietnam (our "advisors" there) in early 60's and thinking it was sad, but surely a temporary thing. But my entire adult life has been influenced and affected by that disaster, as have so many others.

I have no idea how we, as a society, will be coping with this new horror. But I do know that, just like in the aftermath of Vietnam, we can, and we will.