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aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:31 AM Apr 2020

U.S. is already seeing the uptick in Coronavirus Cases in the US, that was predicted ...

4/21/2020 the US increased coronavirus cases by 39,500 new cases, the highest 1 day total increase we have ever had.

The highest prior to yesterday was 4/10/2020 with 35,135 cases (11 days ago).
Since 4/10/2020 the cases have been slowly coming down into the mid 20,000's
On 4/13/2020 it came down to 24,973 cases, then started to climb again to 32,500 on 4/18/2020
then started dropping to 25,100 on 4/20/2020

Here are the new cases by date (as reported by Johns Hopkins)
4/10/2020 35,135
4/11/2020 29,865 3 Days of decreases
4/12/2020 28,900
4/13/2020 24,973

4/14/2020 26,927
4/15/2020 29,200
4/16/2020 31,400 5 Days of increases
4/17/2020 31,900
4/18/2020 32,500

4/19/2020 27,000 2 Days of decreases
4/20/2020 25,100

4/21/2020 39,500 Now This!


So YES, lets have more rallies at State houses and open up the country!

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U.S. is already seeing the uptick in Coronavirus Cases in the US, that was predicted ... (Original Post) aggiesal Apr 2020 OP
So much winning SheltieLover Apr 2020 #1
Imagine what the true numbers wuld be if we had robust testing. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #2
I have only 1 word to say about that, yup! n/t aggiesal Apr 2020 #3
Thanks for pulling this data together. Mike 03 Apr 2020 #4
Hi Mike03, I created a spreadsheet and started keeping track since 3/31 ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #6
Worldmeters shows 25,985 new cases yesterday. Nt USALiberal Apr 2020 #5
I believe the Johns Hopkins numbers are the GO TO numbers for M$M and government entities n/t aggiesal Apr 2020 #8
The thing that bothers me DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #29
I agree, they break the US down by regions. ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #30
Maybe DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #31
If testing is ramping up, I would expect the number of cases to increase. LonePirate Apr 2020 #7
Can you show me where to collect those numbers? ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #9
Nate Silver has been compiling these numbers from the COVID Project. LonePirate Apr 2020 #13
Thanks ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #16
Those Days of Decreases Largely Correspondend to ---the Weekend Stallion Apr 2020 #10
I like to think the virus takes the weekends off SoonerPride Apr 2020 #12
What is key is the trend of the RATE. Further, use moving averages to smooth out reporting anomalies Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #11
Same data over 7 days. ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #14
Very interesting. Thank you for the calculations. You may have detected a signal in the data Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #20
It might go higher ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #22
And the beaches, etc. If you have a signal there, I fully expect it to go higher. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #24
Here's a Website that Calculates those 3-Day and 7 Day averages Stallion Apr 2020 #23
My county had a huge uptick on 4/16 as well. Pretty interesting. n/t aggiesal Apr 2020 #26
Some fascinating charts there. Thanks. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #27
or that testing is incapable of keeping up. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #15
I agree, ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #17
true, I keep a daily tracking spreadsheet just for my own edification SoonerPride Apr 2020 #19
Yes, many factors are confounding the data & you have put your finger on perhaps the biggest. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #21
the count is erractic but no one expected it actually start to go down until mid-may if not June beachbumbob Apr 2020 #18
Kick and recommend for visibility bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #25
Florida's infection rate is still climbing Chainfire Apr 2020 #28

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
2. Imagine what the true numbers wuld be if we had robust testing.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:33 AM
Apr 2020

Easily 5 to 10 times those numbers IMO

Coroavirus is fucking everywhere.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
6. Hi Mike03, I created a spreadsheet and started keeping track since 3/31 ...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:47 AM
Apr 2020

hoping to seeing us flattening the curve. It looked like we started to, but then the rallies started.

I've been doing the same for San Diego County where I live. (I recommend everyone do this, for the following reason)

The zip code that I live in 91911, has the 2nd highest zip code with coronavirus cases in the whole county.
The city I live in Chula Vista, has the 2nd highest city with coronovirus cases in the county behind San Diego.
Since I am literally in the county hot zone, I've stopped shopping in my area and started shopping where the
numbers are lower so less probability of catching this.

To top it off, my neighbor decided to throw a party last Friday night, where all the street parking was taken up,
no masks and no social distancing. My landscaper told me that his garbage cans were filled with food and beer cans.

The Republican Mayor of San Diego Kevin Faulconer has announced yesterday
to open some of the parks in the city.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
29. The thing that bothers me
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 02:28 PM
Apr 2020

about that website is that they give the total number infected as a world total, then break it down by country except the U.S.
Then in the Deaths, they give other countries totals, but then not for the U.S. They don't even break it down by state, but give it by counties instead.
I wonder if that is by design????????

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
30. I agree, they break the US down by regions. ...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 02:30 PM
Apr 2020

I think what they are trying to do is show where significant numbers are.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
31. Maybe
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 03:13 PM
Apr 2020

I still have to go to many other websites to get the "real total numbers" that show apples to apples.......

They "way" they show the numbers for the U.S. is far less shocking than the numbers are in reality.......

It seems that everything is suspect and questionable these days, and for good reason.......

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
7. If testing is ramping up, I would expect the number of cases to increase.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:48 AM
Apr 2020

Rather than focus on the number of cases, the better metric would be the percentage of tests that are positive. This number accounts for daily fluctuations in the number of cases due to variations in the number of tests. Sure, it is not a flashy number but it is more meaningful over time if testing numbers increase as they should. 40,000 new cases means something different if we conduct 150,000 tests or 2 million tests per day.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
9. Can you show me where to collect those numbers? ...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:51 AM
Apr 2020

I don't believe anyone is keeping track of Positives/Tests Taken.

Obviously, we have Positives (based on Johns Hopkins).

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
16. Thanks ...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:02 PM
Apr 2020

So yesterdays 39,500/152,000 = 25.99%

This doesn't seem plausible, so the theory that some Health Departments may be causing lags could throw
these numbers off.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
10. Those Days of Decreases Largely Correspondend to ---the Weekend
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:51 AM
Apr 2020

some states have lag reporting for deaths and new cases-its pretty obvious when you look at trends over several weeks-numbers go down through Monday then have risen on Tuesdays These numbers are not real-time-they are skewed based upon when the reports are received from the states and how the states report cases

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
12. I like to think the virus takes the weekends off
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:55 AM
Apr 2020

It needs a break too.

j/k

obviously, you are correct. reporting drops over the weekends and catches up early in the week.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,036 posts)
11. What is key is the trend of the RATE. Further, use moving averages to smooth out reporting anomalies
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:52 AM
Apr 2020

Often cases are reported that have lagged a day or two. That makes one day smaller and another day bigger. So use a 3 day moving average or even 7 days. The Financial Times has great graphs and sometimes uses one or the other.

If you have 100,000 cases and you get a day with 10,000 new cases and later you have 400,000 cases and you get 32,000 new cases, that's a bad sign? No. Good sign. Because the rate in the first example is 10% per day increase while the rate in the second example is an 8% per day increase. Better.

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
14. Same data over 7 days. ...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:57 AM
Apr 2020

So as you can see, over a 7 day period, it started to decrease slowly on 4/10.
unitil 4/18, then it jumped 4/21 back to 4/11 to 4/13 levels.
4/10 = 4/3 thru 4/10
4/11 = 4/4 thru 4/11
4/12 = 4/5 thru 4/12
...

4/10/2020 220,935
4/11/2020 217,500
4/12/2020 218,200
4/13/2020 213,573
4/14/2020 211,000
4/15/2020 207,265
4/16/2020 206,400
4/17/2020 203,165
4/18/2020 205,800
4/19/2020 203,900
4/20/2020 204,027
4/21/2020 216,600

aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
22. It might go higher ...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:09 PM
Apr 2020

once the rally numbers kick in.

We started seeing Wisconsin voting numbers cases yesterday.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
15. or that testing is incapable of keeping up.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:00 PM
Apr 2020

it is very possible that in your example the virus is still spreading 10% daily.

but without a robust enough testing regimen you wouldn't know that.

and the bigger the virus spread, you need a bigger testing net, and spreading that net coast to coast, the more holes it has in it.

so at best our tracking numbers are woefully inadequate

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
19. true, I keep a daily tracking spreadsheet just for my own edification
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:05 PM
Apr 2020

even knowing that the numbers are not a true reflection of reality.

they are all we have.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
18. the count is erractic but no one expected it actually start to go down until mid-may if not June
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:04 PM
Apr 2020

I mean any one with a brain cell or 2

Chainfire

(17,636 posts)
28. Florida's infection rate is still climbing
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:44 PM
Apr 2020

So our brilliant governor wants to open us up. He knows what will happen, but he is willing to sacrifice us on the off chance that someone can make some money off of it. Florida and Georgia are going to compete for the win, the prizes will be caskets.



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