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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsU.S. is already seeing the uptick in Coronavirus Cases in the US, that was predicted ...
4/21/2020 the US increased coronavirus cases by 39,500 new cases, the highest 1 day total increase we have ever had.
The highest prior to yesterday was 4/10/2020 with 35,135 cases (11 days ago).
Since 4/10/2020 the cases have been slowly coming down into the mid 20,000's
On 4/13/2020 it came down to 24,973 cases, then started to climb again to 32,500 on 4/18/2020
then started dropping to 25,100 on 4/20/2020
Here are the new cases by date (as reported by Johns Hopkins)
4/10/2020 35,135
4/11/2020 29,865 3 Days of decreases
4/12/2020 28,900
4/13/2020 24,973
4/14/2020 26,927
4/15/2020 29,200
4/16/2020 31,400 5 Days of increases
4/17/2020 31,900
4/18/2020 32,500
4/19/2020 27,000 2 Days of decreases
4/20/2020 25,100
4/21/2020 39,500 Now This!
So YES, lets have more rallies at State houses and open up the country!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Easily 5 to 10 times those numbers IMO
Coroavirus is fucking everywhere.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Very useful, and crystal clear.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)hoping to seeing us flattening the curve. It looked like we started to, but then the rallies started.
I've been doing the same for San Diego County where I live. (I recommend everyone do this, for the following reason)
The zip code that I live in 91911, has the 2nd highest zip code with coronavirus cases in the whole county.
The city I live in Chula Vista, has the 2nd highest city with coronovirus cases in the county behind San Diego.
Since I am literally in the county hot zone, I've stopped shopping in my area and started shopping where the
numbers are lower so less probability of catching this.
To top it off, my neighbor decided to throw a party last Friday night, where all the street parking was taken up,
no masks and no social distancing. My landscaper told me that his garbage cans were filled with food and beer cans.
The Republican Mayor of San Diego Kevin Faulconer has announced yesterday
to open some of the parks in the city.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)aggiesal
(8,923 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)about that website is that they give the total number infected as a world total, then break it down by country except the U.S.
Then in the Deaths, they give other countries totals, but then not for the U.S. They don't even break it down by state, but give it by counties instead.
I wonder if that is by design????????
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)I think what they are trying to do is show where significant numbers are.
DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)I still have to go to many other websites to get the "real total numbers" that show apples to apples.......
They "way" they show the numbers for the U.S. is far less shocking than the numbers are in reality.......
It seems that everything is suspect and questionable these days, and for good reason.......
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Rather than focus on the number of cases, the better metric would be the percentage of tests that are positive. This number accounts for daily fluctuations in the number of cases due to variations in the number of tests. Sure, it is not a flashy number but it is more meaningful over time if testing numbers increase as they should. 40,000 new cases means something different if we conduct 150,000 tests or 2 million tests per day.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)I don't believe anyone is keeping track of Positives/Tests Taken.
Obviously, we have Positives (based on Johns Hopkins).
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)aggiesal
(8,923 posts)So yesterdays 39,500/152,000 = 25.99%
This doesn't seem plausible, so the theory that some Health Departments may be causing lags could throw
these numbers off.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)some states have lag reporting for deaths and new cases-its pretty obvious when you look at trends over several weeks-numbers go down through Monday then have risen on Tuesdays These numbers are not real-time-they are skewed based upon when the reports are received from the states and how the states report cases
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)It needs a break too.
j/k
obviously, you are correct. reporting drops over the weekends and catches up early in the week.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Often cases are reported that have lagged a day or two. That makes one day smaller and another day bigger. So use a 3 day moving average or even 7 days. The Financial Times has great graphs and sometimes uses one or the other.
If you have 100,000 cases and you get a day with 10,000 new cases and later you have 400,000 cases and you get 32,000 new cases, that's a bad sign? No. Good sign. Because the rate in the first example is 10% per day increase while the rate in the second example is an 8% per day increase. Better.
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)So as you can see, over a 7 day period, it started to decrease slowly on 4/10.
unitil 4/18, then it jumped 4/21 back to 4/11 to 4/13 levels.
4/10 = 4/3 thru 4/10
4/11 = 4/4 thru 4/11
4/12 = 4/5 thru 4/12
...
4/10/2020 220,935
4/11/2020 217,500
4/12/2020 218,200
4/13/2020 213,573
4/14/2020 211,000
4/15/2020 207,265
4/16/2020 206,400
4/17/2020 203,165
4/18/2020 205,800
4/19/2020 203,900
4/20/2020 204,027
4/21/2020 216,600
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)I was thinking it might tick up a couple of days from now. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13306154
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)once the rally numbers kick in.
We started seeing Wisconsin voting numbers cases yesterday.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)statistically has more information that any website I've seen
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-deaths-covid-19
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)it is very possible that in your example the virus is still spreading 10% daily.
but without a robust enough testing regimen you wouldn't know that.
and the bigger the virus spread, you need a bigger testing net, and spreading that net coast to coast, the more holes it has in it.
so at best our tracking numbers are woefully inadequate
aggiesal
(8,923 posts)But I can only go by Johns Hopkins numbers.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)even knowing that the numbers are not a true reflection of reality.
they are all we have.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,036 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)I mean any one with a brain cell or 2
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Chainfire
(17,636 posts)So our brilliant governor wants to open us up. He knows what will happen, but he is willing to sacrifice us on the off chance that someone can make some money off of it. Florida and Georgia are going to compete for the win, the prizes will be caskets.