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marmar

(77,090 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:24 AM Apr 2020

How Far Will the U.S. Economy Plunge During Lockdown?

How Far Will the U.S. Economy Plunge During Lockdown?
by Wolf Richter • Apr 21, 2020 •

Three times deeper than the Great Recession?”
By Wolf Richter for WOLF STREET.


No one has ever been through an economy where enormous shifts have occurred, from one day to the next, shutting down part of the economy but also generating sectors that are vastly more vibrant than ever before. Monthly or quarterly economic indicators leave us in the dark because they lag too far behind and are at the moment largely useless. What we need is high-frequency data – daily and weekly that track this shifting economy in near-real time.

For example, there has been an enormous boom in ecommerce – but we won’t get ecommerce data for Q1 until mid-May and for Q2 until August. Best Buy reported last week that its online sales had surged by 250% but that it would furlough 51,000 hourly store employees as stores were closed to customers, allowing only for curbside pickup. That duality that is now widespread impacts the economy in strange ways.

Grocery store and supermarket sales – which are normally the epitome of slow and steady growth tied to inflation and population growth – are suddenly booming. Kroger reported a 30% surge in “identical retail supermarket sales without fuel.” ............(more)

https://wolfstreet.com/2020/04/21/how-far-will-u-s-economy-gdp-plunge-during-lockdowns/




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How Far Will the U.S. Economy Plunge During Lockdown? (Original Post) marmar Apr 2020 OP
A lot. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #1
We could be a barter economy in a year. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #2
trenchant analysis unblock Apr 2020 #6
The entire essay is worth reading. Laelth Apr 2020 #3
Depression with a D. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2020 #4
This is a global depression SoonerPride Apr 2020 #5
tbh, i am a bit surprised so much is still working. mopinko Apr 2020 #7
I just found out one of my favorite stores might not survive. Initech Apr 2020 #8
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
2. We could be a barter economy in a year.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:27 AM
Apr 2020

I have no basis for saying that but it sounds good, and is super doomsday-y which is en Vogue.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. The entire essay is worth reading.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:42 AM
Apr 2020

But it's not for the faint of heart. It paints a bleak picture of our likely economic future.

-Laelth

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
5. This is a global depression
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:45 AM
Apr 2020

There will be massive retraction of markets, tourism, travel, entertainment, and other discretionary nonessential spending.

This is a global depression.

mopinko

(70,208 posts)
7. tbh, i am a bit surprised so much is still working.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:15 PM
Apr 2020

if unemployment is 30%, that means 70% of people still are.
that's not a perfect equation, but in my frame of reference, people i know, a lot of them are still working. some full time. some over time.

things are gonna be shaken up hard, but some people are gonna make a lot of money.

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