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https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/20/838521862/free-falling-oil-prices-keep-diving-as-demand-disappearsHoly shitsnaps
How low will oil prices go?
A key American oil benchmark, West Texas Intermediate, fell by more than 80% on Monday as global oil markets continue to grapple with a pandemic-driven collapse in demand.
At the start of 2020, a barrel of WTI cost around $60.
Shortly after 1:30 p.m. ET on Monday, a barrel was trading for less than $3 the lowest price the WTI futures market has ever seen.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)They are a scourge on the planet.
dawg
(10,624 posts)I'm not smart enough to know who, exactly, but I can't imagine that there aren't a number of players who won't be coming back from this one.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)At least today. They buy these futures contracts, hoping to make a profit before having to take delivery, and pay fees to store the oil, not that there's much of any place to do that anymore.
Gamblers sometimes lose, that's just how things go when you play around with life's necessities.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)Whatever people think of big oil, this will put hundreds of thousands of Americans working in the industry out of a job. Also, many decent people own oil stocks in their 401ks.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Its poison and poisons the earth.
Fuck them
Calculating
(2,955 posts)It has made our modern way of life possible, without it we would all be living like the Amish.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)It is not general knowledge I guess that petroleum is not just used for fuel, it is the black blood that courses through modern civilizations right now.
Looking up what is made with it or from it reveals that. The list is very long and much of what people have around them is a product of it or by it. Plastic, pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, etc., etc.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'm all for getting rid of coal as an energy source ... Oil, being a concentrated, portable, and highly versatile source of energy and also used as the primary stock for 10's of 10000's of products we all used every day ... cannot be so blithely dismissed.
If all the oil in the world dried up overnight, at least half the population of the planet would be dead within 3 months.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)For them, nothing short of an absolute is adequate. That hundreds of thousands of working people stand to lose jobs, hones, ect is meaningless to an ideologue. Like you pointed out, oil is deeply ingrained in the functioning of our world, it will take time and broad use of alternatives to unwind that reality, something that is deeply unacceptable to an ideologue.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)getagrip_already
(14,795 posts)What does that even mean?
herding cats
(19,566 posts)It's uncharted territory for me.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Calculating
(2,955 posts)We're gonna have 50+ million unemployed and people will be BEGGING for min wage jobs digging holes before long.
Turbineguy
(37,359 posts)herding cats
(19,566 posts)June will be better since the supply cuts should impact that month, whereas it missed May.
unblock
(52,277 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)brewens
(13,608 posts)things maybe getting going again, the deal Trump bragged about, probably should. I can look out the door and see a truck full of cheap gas that can't go anywhere. I shouldn't need to fill up until this time next year if the virus is still dangerous.
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)for a long time.
Oil prices, however, are travel dependent and will spike once levels go back up. The damage has been done though and this will impact lots of jobs here in the state.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)not going well.
With a trio like that, what could go wrong?
[Before this 'era' is over, we may see other extremely bizarre charts for other sectors. Watch out!]
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I wonder how gas prices will reflect that?
That should be interesting. It could look like the pre-70's if this keeps up.
sarisataka
(18,705 posts)On a barrel of oil? At what point are companies selling the oil at a loss?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Transport and refining are a whole nother beast, though
TexasTowelie
(112,318 posts)Astonishing that the price for a barrel of oil (42 gallons) is less than a gallon of gas was just a month ago.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)You've got to pay for moving it from Point A to Point B, though.
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I think the physical barrels will cost you several more times what the oil is going for right now
Renew Deal
(81,866 posts)I'll pay the full $3.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)They go for about $47 each, but it's not really stored in barrels. It's just a measurement.
Shermann
(7,423 posts)That's really an alarming drop. The markets are mostly shrugging it off.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)Just look at the Nasdaq, like 10% off the all time highs like nothing bad is happening.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Shermann
(7,423 posts)I'm still in the game. Just keeping more of my powder dry, maybe waiting for Joe to spank all the naughty children running around the house.
The Magistrate
(95,248 posts)There is a strange new world straining to be born....
Gothmog
(145,427 posts)herding cats
(19,566 posts)Holy shit!
Gothmog
(145,427 posts)I would hate to see what these prices do to reserved based loans
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Very soon oil producers are going to have to shut off production.
madville
(7,412 posts)Saw an article recently about atmospheric pollution levels plummeting.
Bantamfancier
(366 posts)pile it up outside? Like the corn and soybean farmers do when they produce too much.
What if they threw a tarpaulin over it?
roamer65
(36,745 posts)getagrip_already
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