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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:14 PM Sep 2012

Actors Had No Idea They Were In Anti-Muslim Propaganda Film



Actors Had No Idea They Were In Anti-Muslim Propaganda Film

The cast and crew of the anti-Muslim film that led to violence in Libya were misled.

A statement released on the behalf of the 80 cast and crew members of “Innocence of Muslims,” a film that reportedly prompted Tuesday protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, indicates that they are not happy with the film and were misled by the producer.

“The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer. We are 100% not behind this film and were grossly misled about its intent and purpose,” the statement says. “We are shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred.”

Actress Cindy Lee Garcia says of the director, “I’m going to sue his butt off.”

-snip-

Full article with more quotes here: http://www.alan.com/2012/09/12/actors-had-no-idea-they-were-in-anti-muslim-propaganda-film/





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Actors Had No Idea They Were In Anti-Muslim Propaganda Film (Original Post) Tx4obama Sep 2012 OP
Was there not a script? n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #1
they may have been given different versions of the script when signing up and when shooting. Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #5
Check post #10. I found that on Buzzfeed. n/t cynatnite Sep 2012 #11
aha, more of her interview Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #9
They wouldn't hear any voice overs Warpy Sep 2012 #12
They overdubbed the actual lines in editing and post-pro alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #16
They dubbed the thing, apparently. nt MADem Sep 2012 #27
it says Bacile appeared in the media? and she says she spoke to him? I am so confused Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #2
That might be a typo. Maybe it should say his 'name' or 'film' appeared in the meida ... Tx4obama Sep 2012 #7
from her description of him, could be the other guy, the one who posted it online Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #15
I can imagine that for the extras in any movie HereSince1628 Sep 2012 #3
if you watch a little bit of it Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #18
i guess it's true what hitchcock said about actors BOG PERSON Sep 2012 #4
this whole thing just keeps getting more and more WTF??? cali Sep 2012 #6
I'd like to know what they thought the purpose of the film was. bunnies Sep 2012 #8
I think this might be right...Look at this... cynatnite Sep 2012 #10
here's another article about one of the actors in the film Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #13
Two things that stick out in that article to me Jennicut Sep 2012 #17
More than weird, IMO. It's got conspiracy written all over it... cynatnite Sep 2012 #19
I agree. Jennicut Sep 2012 #20
this is a trick question, right? Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #21
It has his stink all over it, doesn't it? randome Sep 2012 #24
What would be the cognizant authority for such an investigation? ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #22
Honestly, I don't know... cynatnite Sep 2012 #25
If someone is coordinating with a foreign power... randome Sep 2012 #26
That presume foreign governments... ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #29
Go, Cindy, go! Sue more than their pants! sakabatou Sep 2012 #14
Ms. Garcia says that she spoke to "Bacile" on the phone today brentspeak Sep 2012 #23
never underestimate how low a sociopath will go fascisthunter Sep 2012 #28
“I’m going to sue his butt off.” - Good. THAT'S how we'll trace the money.... Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #30
 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
5. they may have been given different versions of the script when signing up and when shooting.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:18 PM
Sep 2012

And I'm sure there was a lot of editing.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
12. They wouldn't hear any voice overs
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:22 PM
Sep 2012

and some of the action scenes were likely dubbed in later.

However, if this is legit, this could get really interesting.

Now to see how it played in Benghazi and other parts of the Muslim Middle East first.

ETA: I'm not the only one asking about this. One of the comments did, also.

The whole thing smells.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. They overdubbed the actual lines in editing and post-pro
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:27 PM
Sep 2012


The script she was given was titled simply Desert Warriors.

"It was going to be a film based on how things were 2,000 years ago," Garcia said. "It wasn't based on anything to do with religion, it was just on how things were run in Egypt. There wasn't anything about Muhammed or Muslims or anything."

In the script and during the shooting, nothing indicated the controversial nature of the final product. Muhammed wasn't even called Muhammed; he was "Master George," Garcia said. The words Muhammed were dubbed over in post-production, as were essentially all other offensive references to Islam and Muhammed.

---SNIP---

This is some Wag the Dog type shit right here. Ridiculous.

On edit, then again, why would somebody in 1st century CE Egypt be named "master george." Dummies and crooks in every direction.
 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
2. it says Bacile appeared in the media? and she says she spoke to him? I am so confused
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012

I thought he was imaginary?

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
7. That might be a typo. Maybe it should say his 'name' or 'film' appeared in the meida ...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

then she called him up. (?)

I don't know.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
15. from her description of him, could be the other guy, the one who posted it online
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:26 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:06 PM - Edit history (1)

(whose name I've forgotten already) - Egyptian coptic christian, anti-muslim

Morris Sadek, an Egyptian-born Coptic Christian ally of a Florida pastor, Terry Jones, a hatemonger whose threats to burn a copy of the Koran inspired deadly riots in Afghanistan in 2010 and 2011.

from http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/opinion/murder-in-benghazi.html

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. I can imagine that for the extras in any movie
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012

but I wonder about how that could be possible for the major roles...people who were given scripts to practice...did Bacile dub over the spoken words with bad lip sync?

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
18. if you watch a little bit of it
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:29 PM
Sep 2012

the dubbing is AWFUL
it is choppy, incoherent, offensive, stupid

I think easily could have been made with O'Keefe's creativity... that same kind of stupidness.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
8. I'd like to know what they thought the purpose of the film was.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

Since they were "misled" about it. What were they told?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
10. I think this might be right...Look at this...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:21 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/inflammatory-anti-muslim-movie-may-not-be-a-real

The anti-Muslim "movie" that served as the spark or pretext for a wave of violent unrest in Egypt and Libya may not be a movie at all.

As the video above — cut from the YouTube video tied to a global controversy — shows, nearly all of the names in the movie's "trailer" are overdubbed. The video is a compilation of the most clumsily overdubbed moments from what is in reality an incoherent, haphazardly-edited set of scenes. Among the overdubbed words is "Mohammed," suggesting that the footage was taken from a film about something else entirely. The footage also suggests multiple video sources — there are obvious and jarring discrepancies among actors and locations.

However, CNN has reported that the cast and crew disavowed the movie, and the overdubbing could also have been to conceal the content from the cast itself

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
17. Two things that stick out in that article to me
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:27 PM
Sep 2012

"Muhammed wasn't even called Muhammed; he was "Master George," Garcia said. The words Muhammed were dubbed over in post-production, as were essentially all other offensive references to Islam and Muhammed."

And

"The film's mysterious pseudonymous writer and director, "Sam Bacile," has claimed to be an Israeli real estate mogul. But Garcia said Bacile told her he was Egyptian on set. Bacile had white hair and spoke Arabic to a number of "dark-skinned" men who hung around the set, she said. (A Bacile associate also told The Atlantic he wasn't Israeli or Jewish.)"

Pretty weird stuff.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
19. More than weird, IMO. It's got conspiracy written all over it...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sep 2012

I think this warrants an investigation.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
20. I agree.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:38 PM
Sep 2012

Who makes a movie and then lies about their identity and the subject of the movie to the actors?

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
22. What would be the cognizant authority for such an investigation?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:49 PM
Sep 2012

Or are you thinking more of a media investigation.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
26. If someone is coordinating with a foreign power...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:00 PM
Sep 2012

...I would think any number of national security agencies could be involved

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
29. That presume foreign governments...
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:37 AM
Sep 2012

This could be anything from a false flag op by the muslim brotherhood to some anti muslim zealot. It does not appear to be the work of professionals in any way

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
23. Ms. Garcia says that she spoke to "Bacile" on the phone today
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:53 PM
Sep 2012

If so, it shouldn't be hard to locate him and discover his true identity.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
28. never underestimate how low a sociopath will go
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:52 PM
Sep 2012

Ayn Rand considers this defect a virtue... well, I guess it's all a defect can do, but praise what defect they themselves reflect.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
30. “I’m going to sue his butt off.” - Good. THAT'S how we'll trace the money....
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 07:40 AM
Sep 2012

behind this piece of agitprop.

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