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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:06 PM Apr 2020

Grocery Work and the Coronavirus

As some here may know, I work as a night-grocery clerk. It's the end cap to over 35 years working in retail grocery - from front-end management, to produce, to dry goods. I work in suburban Md. at a splinter of one of the larger food chains (not prudent or allowed to mention which one), and I'd like to share some of my experiences and concerns surrounding this coronavirus outbreak.

First of all, I've felt this thing was coming right at me from the start. I'm the better part of 59 years-old, and I have a serious asthma condition which is managed pretty well by a twice-a-day Symbicort puffer. I haven't experienced waking up gasping for air for years now, the persistent rattle in my chest is gone, and I'm hoarse most of the time, but breathing deeply and easily with the medication.

That hasn't eased my constant fear of catching so much as a cold, all the more afraid of catching a flu or virus bug, and I mentally monitor my breathing 24/7 out of fear of returning to the state which brought me to the brink of breathlessness in the emergency room several times in the past.

Yet, here I am, now an 'essential worker' in a job which has never offered much in the way of thankfulness for my commitment to the community in the past. With the temporary $2 an hour (temporary) 'hero' raise granted by the company a week ago, I've been elevated to the rank of soldier in this virus war. I mentally pull myself together every night, don one of my scrounged up masks, and head into what I'm convinced is a virus pit, of sorts, with scattered and inconsistent protocol against infecting ourselves and others.

Initially, our family spent day after day worrying about what we believe is a pretty good chance of getting the infected with the virus. Then we got proactive and decided we would be less potential victims by arming ourselves against our daily battle with our concealed, camouflaged foe. My wife was tasked with making masks from a pattern on the internet, personal and home cleaning supplies were stockpiled, and strategies were developed among us for waging our daily battle. It eased a lot of the worry to prepare for the worst and substitute our despair with defiance.

Until a couple of days ago, my workplace was mostly devoid of folks wearing face masks, and very little adherence to safety measures like wearing gloves. In fact, I was the ONLY night crew member wearing a face mask for weeks. That was before the store made face masks mandatory, and began providing one a night for workers just 2 days ago. Flimsy plastic gloves are available, but workers aren't required to wear them (yet).

We have a crew of about seven, with about five of us working together in a night. One of the tasks is unloading and separating large pallets of product to put on shelves, and two to three of us are required to cluster together to accomplish this. No matter how many times that I suggest we separate tasks, our crew manager has been unable or unwilling to make it happen, so we gather together every night and perform our risky endeavor.

It's basically human nature which has prevented us from separating our workload to distance ourselves from each other like the numerous signs around the store exclaim and counsel we should. To be clear, no one has shown any signs of infection, but you'd need to suspend all reasoning to imagine that we're risk-free. None of us know where the others have been all day, and there's just no accounting for anyone's state of health. Yet, we all gather together every night in this crap-shoot, Russian-roulette of a mission challenging the odds one of us might get sick and infect the others.

We talk about this almost all night. As I mentioned, we only got masks a couple of days ago, and although everyone is masked-up today, there's still been too many breaks in our virtual chain of safety to erase our fears, and more the rub, that inconsistency and carelessness is being brandished by some as a badge of pride in self, like the virus was some sort of personal fight that can be fought and won solely through the power of will (or political ideology).

There's a glaring political tinge to the ones openly defying the protections offered and mandated against infection in the store. To a person, the ones in the store resisting (and in some cases, still refusing to mask-up) are low-information, self-identified conservatives who are, no doubt, following the lead of the evolutionarily-deficient politicians and pundits who have adopted this earth-shattering denial that threatens all of us in this crisis with their ignorant flaunting of basic rules and protections.

Indeed, the level of their ignorance can be traced to their deliberate refusal to acknowledge *facts* about the dangers their inaction and negligence can pose to themselves and the people who surround them. Simply put, if you're a staunch follower of republican politics, you are ostensibly the danger all of us sheltering ourselves against this virus fear.

In fact, the actual manager of the store has openly lamented about the 'senior' hour afforded twice a week in the early morning for older folks at-risk to avoid the regular crowds as 'discriminating,' worrying out loud about 'what if we said blacks could come shop early.' Yeah, he's a winner. He also complained to one dept. manager that the entire virus event was a 'hoax,' causing that associate to read him the riot act about a family member who had actually died from the coronavirus.

Having folks in charge who follow the political chicanery of the republican party like cult-members has been one of the most insidious challenges we've faced in confronting the risks. It's my opinion that those people should be avoided like the plague, seriously. Is there anything more confounding than someone who gets their info from Trump, or one of the republican mouthpieces, in a position to direct of affect the health and safety of others?

It's literally been one of the most infuriating things about what we're facing. Idiocracy reigns in American today, and we're not going to get a handle on this crisis unless we get control over these misinformed (and misinforming) demagogues trying to hold onto their dominance over the nation. We are almost undone by their aggressive ignorance.

So goes the virus war here in Md.. It was a relief to see our governor finally mask-up, but you just know that if this republican is suddenly taking precautions they resisted for weeks, then there's something really bad coming down the pike, not to mention all of the danger they have ignored in the critical days lost politicking the virus.

None of the four members of my family in my home can afford to shelter-in-place to the extent that most of the community has for about a month now. Three of us work retail and two of us work grocery. Going to work literally feels like going into a war zone for us all, every time a bit more fearful than the last. Not the vulnerability and fear health workers must experience in every waking hour, but still palatable anxiety about the dangers and risks from this invisible, opportunistic assailant; for ourselves, and for others. I'm a bit more hopeful, but still fearful that the worst is yet to come.

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Grocery Work and the Coronavirus (Original Post) bigtree Apr 2020 OP
Thank you. K&R n/t sl8 Apr 2020 #1
Thanks for sharing your well written story. I think you will make it! Baked Potato Apr 2020 #2
A report from the front lines! K&R. nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #3
Well said.. Permanut Apr 2020 #4
Thank you! iamateacher Apr 2020 #5
I work for one of the major beverage vendors Codeine Apr 2020 #6
Very well written account K&r Dream Girl Apr 2020 #7
Thank you, and I am so babylonsister Apr 2020 #8
great to see you too, sis bigtree Apr 2020 #12
Thanks for what you are doing big. panader0 Apr 2020 #9
thanks, panader0 bigtree Apr 2020 #13
Thank you for telling your experience. PufPuf23 Apr 2020 #10
So I have had a thought about the grocery industry and would like to know what you think about it. ooky Apr 2020 #11
we've heard rumors that it's under consideration bigtree Apr 2020 #18
Appreciate you sharing. ooky Apr 2020 #20
... alwaysinasnit Apr 2020 #14
Thank you. barbtries Apr 2020 #15
Hang in there. libtheoman Apr 2020 #16
'ht' bigtree Apr 2020 #19
kick bigtree Apr 2020 #17
Thanks so much for your very thoughtful account bigtree. PA Democrat Apr 2020 #21

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
2. Thanks for sharing your well written story. I think you will make it!
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:19 PM
Apr 2020

As far as your coworkers, I am of the opinion these types are simply lazy. They are lazy humans who depend on others for their survival. They justify the laziness with their political BS.

Permanut

(5,610 posts)
4. Well said..
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:25 PM
Apr 2020

I work for the same company, same observations, same concerns, but without the extra burden of respiratory challenges. Seventy four years old, though, puts me in a higher risk category. So far, so good.

Extra credit for "evolutionarily-deficient".

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
6. I work for one of the major beverage vendors
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:35 PM
Apr 2020

so I’m in a dozen stores daily, weaving through crowds trying to get to my shelves and displays to write orders. Thankfully we seem to be a step ahead in California in terms of masks being required and everyone seems to be on board with wearing them, but it still rankles me knowing I could bring this home to my family.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
8. Thank you, and I am so
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:45 PM
Apr 2020

happy to see you. I have thought of you often, knowing what you do for a living.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
12. great to see you too, sis
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:39 PM
Apr 2020

...actually posted just to share my status and started ranting.

Very surreal out here. I drive under a large, lit highway sign every night on the way to work that says, 'Stay Home! Save Lives!' It never fails to affect me.



panader0

(25,816 posts)
9. Thanks for what you are doing big.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:46 PM
Apr 2020

I saw your post and thought, 'I haven't seen a bigtree post in a while'.
Sure enough, only this one in the last 90 days. You have a great talent
as a writer, please keep it up.
eta: your stories about your early life were wonderful. You should consolidate
them into a book. I'd buy it.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
13. thanks, panader0
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:32 PM
Apr 2020

...although I wasn't able to acknoledge your last pm to me, it was like a warm light in the darkness, a kind reminder when I checked in that good folks still reside here.



PufPuf23

(8,789 posts)
10. Thank you for telling your experience.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:47 PM
Apr 2020

What you do is essential in the time of CV19.

You and your family should be admired.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
11. So I have had a thought about the grocery industry and would like to know what you think about it.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:15 PM
Apr 2020

First, let me say I totally empathize with your situation. I also worry about my adult children who have jobs that expose themselves daily to this virus. They are also essential workers who aren't fairly recognized, not so much in the community who I believe very much appreciates their skills, but more by their employers and industry, who need to do much more in terms of the compensation and commitment to their employees well being.

So my thought falls along the lines that many businesses are going to have to adjust their business models to be more thoughtful and consistent with our new realities. With respect to the grocery stores, I wonder if a change from the current "come in the store" model should (could?) be changed to "deliver to the parking lot" model. It would involve a re-deployment of resources from the checkout line to pulling orders and delivering the orders outside. It would be fully order and pay on-line, although I realize there are still a few customers who would have to adjust to that. But, most of the public I believe could do that now if needed.

I would think this would be safer for everyone, store employees and customers, as it would eliminate customers who are potentially infected from walking in and out of the store all day. I know there are stores doing curbside now, but is very limited in the volume they can handle, making it difficult for customers competing for available time slots for their pick ups. My question is what is your opinion (as an industry veteran) of that as an idea. Is it even viable?

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
18. we've heard rumors that it's under consideration
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:49 AM
Apr 2020

...I personally think there's a few steps we could take before we deny consumers their full shopping experience.

No clerks in the aisles when open, and one-way markers for them would go a long way. I'm not sure it's time to turn stores into warehouses with drive thru-shopping only.

ooky

(8,924 posts)
20. Appreciate you sharing.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:12 AM
Apr 2020

Interesting that it's under consideration and the alternatives being considered. My biggest concern from the beginning has been that the virus can linger in the air long enough from an infected customer who has already moved on to another aisle that a different customer can then come along and unknowingly walk through that infected air space. I don't particularly like the inflexibility of being restricted to curbside and would not want that long term, but I will stay with it until something happens that I can feel is less risky. I wish you the very best of course. You and everyone like you are doing a great service to society by what you are doing helping keep the food supply chain operational and thanks for that.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
15. Thank you.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:59 PM
Apr 2020

My son is also working in a grocery. I am in a vulnerable population and we live together. His store is supposedly supplying masks but I've gotten him 2 and a good samaritan gave him 1, and he's finally wearing a mask at work.

I never gave him enough credit, or you for that matter, for performing such a vital task as making food available to us all. This also goes for sanitation workers.

Unprecedented times we are living through. Please stay well.

libtheoman

(7 posts)
16. Hang in there.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:07 PM
Apr 2020

I worked for HT for 15 years. So thankful I was able to get out of retail 3 years ago. I’m in a tourist industry now so I’m laid off. Still glad I’m not in a grocery store - snow storm times a million.

Take care of yourself and your family. Do what you have to for survival. I really hate the company I think you work for with a passion- Especially senior mngmt.

If anyone gives you grief just remember, “No task is so urgent that it cannot be done safely”. Take that to your managers and HR and a lawyer if necessary.

Hope you make through this. Focus on those in the community who need you there. Most are grateful even though they don’t say so

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
21. Thanks so much for your very thoughtful account bigtree.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:31 PM
Apr 2020

I hope you continue to stay healthy.

I have to wonder if this crisis could eventually lead to the resurgence of union membership, improved worker safety regulations and things like mandatory paid sick leave. I have family members who are also considered "essential workers" and it has taken an executive order from our Democratic governor to force employers to provide some basic safeguards for workers and by extension the general public.

I personally have not been physically inside a store in four weeks now. I have switched to ordering groceries online, paying with a credit card and then doing the curbside pickup for both my family as well as my elderly parents both of who have serious health issues. When I go to pick up my grocery orders, I see many elderly people still walking into grocery stores without masks. It breaks my heart because my parents would otherwise have been among them because they have been unable and unwilling to adapt to using pretty much any technology.

Thank you for all of your work and please remain vigilant!

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