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Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:30 PM Sep 2012

This movie is like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" meets "The Satanic Verses"

Jewish/Israeli filmmaker? A budget of $5 million dollars funded by "100 Jewish donors"?

C'mon! Is this not setting anyone else's bullshit meter off? This thing reeks of a false flag. It reminds me of the infamous FBI-produced Black Panther Coloring Book, or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion or- fuck, just about take your pick.

This shit isn't a movie. Look at it, skip through it. But look at at it. This thing is designed to be as inflammatory as possible to Muslims and to the movie's "creator" is doing everything to convince the world he is a Jew/Israeli and this was funded by Jews.



You know what this looks like? This looks like something a fundamentalist Christian would make. One who hates Muslims and wants to pin the fallout on the Jews. Someone who wants to intentionally cause violence and hatred between the two groups.

Look at this article from the HuffPo about an hour ago:
[div class="excerpt" style="border: 1px solid #bfbfbf; border-bottom: none; border-radius: 0.3846em 0.3846em 0em 0em; box-shadow: 2px 2px 6px #bfbfbf;"]Sam Bacile Mystery: All We Know Is That His Film Exists[div class="excerpt" style="border: 1px solid #bfbfbf; border-top: none; border-radius: 0em 0em 0.3846em 0.3846em; background-color: #f4f4f4; box-shadow: 2px 2px 6px #bfbfbf;"]Bacile had no internet presence and was a member of no social media networks prior to this incident. There are no early casting calls or production notices for the film. Nor does the film have a page on IMDB, the film database. No actors or crew members have been named or identified, and only a couple of the film's apparent backers -- fringe figures like pastor Terry Jones, Morris Sadek of the Coptic Church and Steve Klein, a "consultant" on the film who self-released an anti-Islamic book in 2010 -- have come forward to reveal themselves.

What we know about Bacile and his film comes solely from his own mouth. During an interview he gave Tuesday from an undisclosed location, Bacile said he was an Israeli-American real estate developer who raised $5 million from 100 Jewish donors, none of whom he identified. He doesn't appear to have a California real estate license, according to a review of online real estate databases.

Using a "thick" accent, Bacile said he used 60 actors and 45 crew members and that the project was shot in 2011 over three months in California. He called Islam a "cancer" and railed on the lack of security at the American embassies. He also said he planned to go into hiding as protests escalated.

--snip--

Though Bacile is a mystery, we do know a bit more about Steve Klein, who told the Associated Press on Wednesday that he was a "consultant" on Bacile's film. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the former Marine was part of the controversial California "Church at Kawea," near Fresno, and a member of a "secretive cohort of militant fundamentalists" preparing for war against Muslims in spring 2012. He believed that California was riddled with Muslim Brotherhood sleeper cells "who are awaiting the trigger date and will begin randomly killing as many of us as they can."

You should read the full article on this! The link is above the excerpt.

This thing doesn't look like a "movie". It looks like false-flag agitprop psyops I-have-no-idea-what-the-fuck.

But the one thing it doesn't look like...is the thing it purports to be.

PB
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This movie is like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" meets "The Satanic Verses" (Original Post) Poll_Blind Sep 2012 OP
Rat fucking-2012 style n/t winstars Sep 2012 #1
Exactly. For people who don't know what ratfucking is, link in message. Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #5
And what, pray tell, is your problem with "The Satanic Verses"? cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #2
Made it through 32 seconds. Just absurd. TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #3
Beat me, I turned it off after 25 seconds just1voice Sep 2012 #7
It looks like something made at Regent University or Liberty University. Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #4
Or a Junior high school parady WCGreen Sep 2012 #9
Now I get it... lame54 Sep 2012 #6
This thing is just laughably, horribly, awful and amateurish. Or it WOULD be kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #8
Interesting. Definitely agitprop. But, it still looks like a Sheldon Adelson-funded project leveymg Sep 2012 #10
Looks like it was made by the KKK. That's the most obvious, stupid thing I've ever wasted time on. freshwest Sep 2012 #11
That's the full movie??? arcane1 Sep 2012 #12
"The Passion of the Christ" meets "Wag the Dog".... nancyfladem Sep 2012 #13
Man, I can't compare it to anything I've ever seen or read. It's that bad cali Sep 2012 #14
I think...this thing might be almost 100% dog-whistle. Think about it: When we watch this, it... Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #24
One thing is for sure, it is cheaply made. Jennicut Sep 2012 #15
When I first heard the story, I was expecting something like "The Last Temptation of Christ" Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2012 #16
Production Budget Revealed: Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #17
Honestly, it's so laughably bad it's hard to find offense. Brickbat Sep 2012 #18
I heard on NPR that it was widely rumored in the middle east cali Sep 2012 #20
I heard that too. Brickbat Sep 2012 #21
It needs some Benny Hill music. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #19
I'm thinking "Springtime for Mohammad and Mecca." Junkdrawer Sep 2012 #22
I want so badly to mock this piece of shit... jorno67 Sep 2012 #23
 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
7. Beat me, I turned it off after 25 seconds
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:44 PM
Sep 2012

I can't believe it's even being called a movie, it's clearly some amateur propaganda piece.

lame54

(35,324 posts)
6. Now I get it...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:37 PM
Sep 2012

he just watched The Producers

he raised $5 million and set out to make the worst film possible

but now it's getting too much attention

how will he ever pay off all those backers

I got it - blow up the internet

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
8. This thing is just laughably, horribly, awful and amateurish. Or it WOULD be
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:46 PM
Sep 2012

laughable if it hadn't resulted in the deaths of 4 American diplomatic staff.

I mean, the production quality is junior high level. And all the actors are obviously American, with that squeaky clean WASP look.

Yep, Liberty University or some such made this. Definitely Christian fundie dreck.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
10. Interesting. Definitely agitprop. But, it still looks like a Sheldon Adelson-funded project
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:50 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:39 PM - Edit history (1)

or something made with RW campaign slush money.

This doesn't appear to be full version. The first scenes in the version I saw are set in present-day Egypt (I'd guess it was actually CA) took some cash to make. Some of the actors are ethnic and the outdoor location, costumes and props look half-way professional. The later scenes that purport to flash back to tell the story of the life of Mohamed are so laughably cheaply made it looks to have been made by a porn film studio with free special effects software.

It would be hysterically funny, if it weren't so evil.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Looks like it was made by the KKK. That's the most obvious, stupid thing I've ever wasted time on.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:24 PM
Sep 2012

The thing is like a cartoon, a bunch of ignorant yahoos. I can't believe this cost $5M. It doesn't flatter any ethnic or religious group. It looks like a production Stormfront or David Duke would make.

Who would put this on the air or in theaters overseas, and why would anyone go to see it? Didn't Pamela Geller get Egyptians going after Hillary Clinton with her blog?

I found a libertarian website saying he'll vote for Romney, blabbing about this film. When these idiots take over, the entire planet will be too stupid, so just kill me now.

http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-muhammad-movie-that-is-causing.html

nancyfladem

(32 posts)
13. "The Passion of the Christ" meets "Wag the Dog"....
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:40 PM
Sep 2012

Only without the gore of the former and wit and prescience of the latter.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. Man, I can't compare it to anything I've ever seen or read. It's that bad
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:48 PM
Sep 2012

It's below amateur level. You really nailed it with this sentence:

This thing doesn't look like a "movie". It looks like false-flag agitprop psyops I-have-no-idea-what-the-fuck.

I'm completely flummoxed.

WTF?

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
24. I think...this thing might be almost 100% dog-whistle. Think about it: When we watch this, it...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:51 PM
Sep 2012

...hardly makes any sense, right? I think that's the key. Those scenes don't make sense when we watch them. But obviously some or all of those scenes are re-enactments of specific portions of the Quran. Sections, stories that no Christian or Jew would be familiar with. Only a Muslim or maybe even a devout Muslim would be able to immediately recognize the bastardizations being retold there.

So if form follows function, what's the function of this? The communication isn't recognizable to a non-Muslim. There are no subtitles or anything else which indicate what is happening or giving any kind of structural clue about what's going on. The scenes and what those scenes are referring to is something only Muslims would be familiar with. There is no attempt to "educate" in any sense. There isn't even an attempt to explain.

Why? IMO, it's because the payload of this video isn't even meant to be digestible by non-Muslims.

To anyone who doesn't recognize the characters, it's a semi-meaningless bunch of scenes with people running around reciting nonsensical but intentionally specific dialog.

Same thing could be done with Judaism: You could make a similar movie (I dunno, with Moses?) and have him breaking the 613 Mitzvot left and right and for most people, they're going to see Moses doing "bad" or nonsensical things but they wouldn't get the significance like an Orthodox Jew would. To an Orthodox Jew it would be extremely inflammatory because they'd be intimately familiar with every one of those laws.

PB

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
15. One thing is for sure, it is cheaply made.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:57 PM
Sep 2012

WTF is up with the ultra fake green screen backgrounds? Very strange "movie."

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
16. When I first heard the story, I was expecting something like "The Last Temptation of Christ"
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:57 PM
Sep 2012

I.e., an artfully done piece that may take a controversial view on a central religious figure.

But this is just amateur shit. And while maybe in the context of Americans we can excuse amateurish shit that mocks one's deeply held personal beliefs, when it comes off as a bunch of Americans mocking other people's deeply held personal beliefs, it just doesn't help our image one bit.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
17. Production Budget Revealed:
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:02 PM
Sep 2012

Cellphone camera : 29.95 + 2 Yr. Contract
Green-screen post production: 39.95
Plastic surgery to create
new identities for cast: 4,999,940.10

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
18. Honestly, it's so laughably bad it's hard to find offense.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:04 PM
Sep 2012

It's a crime against movie-making. I think Allah can handle this one himself.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. I heard on NPR that it was widely rumored in the middle east
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:11 PM
Sep 2012

that this piece of shit was being shown all over American TV to mark 9/11.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
22. I'm thinking "Springtime for Mohammad and Mecca."
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

100 little old Jewish ladies were sold 10,000 percent of the stock.

jorno67

(1,986 posts)
23. I want so badly to mock this piece of shit...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:34 PM
Sep 2012

but it ignited the violence that killed 4 Americans...so it's no longer something to laugh at.

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