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https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-lies-are-killing-his-supporters-as-covid-starts-to-sweep-rural-america/Trumps Lies Are Killing His Supporters as COVID Starts to Sweep Rural America
By William Rivers Pitt,
Truthout
Published April 16, 2020
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What happens when this thing really and truly burns through rural America? It has already begun, and because of all those Trump supporters standing shoulder to shoulder at capitols and churches to shout their defiance of science and the Deep State into the virus-polluted air, it will get worse.
It will get worse within days, if the pattern holds, and there is no reason to expect otherwise. The match has been lit. In two weeks, these rural areas which have lost so many of their their hospitals thanks to decades of conservative budget cuts are going to be locked into the same nightmare the urban areas have been dealing with since March, but with far less medical infrastructure prepared to confront it.
How many people who listened to their president and his Fox News mouthpieces, who jammed the churches because the president said it was safe, will be dead by June?
It begs the deadly, wretched question: How many Trump voters are going to die between now and November? How many people who listened to their president and his Fox News mouthpieces, who jammed the Michigan capitol steps and the megachurches on Easter because the president said it was safe, will be dead by June?
Quite a lot, I fear. This is the very living essence of tragedy and farce. Trump has labored mightily to convince his people that this is all some sort of ruse to keep him from being re-elected, and millions of those people have swallowed it whole.
This is a snake eating its own tail in real time while the snake-handler-in-chief cheers it on except we are not talking about snakes. These are people, all of whom are somebodys children, many of whom have children. They trusted Donald Trump, and that will get many of them killed while subsequently prolonging a pandemic that has already infected 2 million lives worldwide.
I wonder if they will still think it was worth it come the summertime. I wonder if they will want a word with Mr. Trump once the virus he called a hoax has its way with them.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)That wont change. Trumpy has them emotionally trapped. Theyll die before they see the truth.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)"You can fool too many of the people too much of the time."
"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."
malaise
(269,053 posts)RFN!
gibraltar72
(7,506 posts)hot2na
(358 posts)They are fooling themselves. They have invested decades waving the flag for the conservative worldview. Now that their worldview is crumbling before everyones eyes, they retreat to their safe havens on FOX, OANN, Limbaugh, etc.
The jig is up and the info is out there but they do not wan't to see it.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)He used to have DUers preview these things for him
Freethinker65
(10,023 posts)Those urban areas that the patient loves to hate. Where they will be treated professionally with the best care available. And many will be attended to by educated minority healthcare workers that will perform their jobs with professionalism and compassion.
And when those rural Trump supporters return home, many will still believe everything Trump has to say.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)Within 2 months, much of the country will be infected.
There is no easy solution for drumpf here. He seems to be willing to risk the country in a desperate attempt at reelection
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)I don't think this is a hard choice for a man so consistently free from scruples as Hair Furor.
Harker
(14,024 posts)That has a ring to it.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He cackles with glee at the daily death toll. It's the biggest perk of being a dictator.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)pitchforks and more pitchforks.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)So good bye dummies.
Better luck in your next life.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)will be leaving their shoes behind
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)we will have to say, so sorry, no can do. Le Turdus sent your ventilator to Putin. Obviously the russians need it more than you do. But please vote for Der Fuhrer in 2020. As he says, you have no other choice. Please wait until after the election to die.
So Sad. Bigly.
Tots and pears.
NO. I am NOT being sarcastic. I am venting my pure, unadulterated HATE for the man, onto the people who stuck that blood sucking leech onto our body politic.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)with special assist from Vladimir Putin
Aristus
(66,386 posts)n/t
npk
(3,660 posts)I suspect he knows and sees the writing on the wall. He knows he is finished and will go down to Biden in November. It's scary because I always wondered what a selfish, sociopath like tRump would do when he realized he would not be re-elected. I just didn't imagine he would realize that in the middle of a global pandemic. Now I fear so many rural tRump voters will die and tRump will just let them, because at this point he couldn't careless.
PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)the morons themselves, not so much.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I really am glad no doctor or nurse I have ever known would not care about a patient because of their political views. Sad.
Aristus
(66,386 posts)If they walked in to my clinic, I'd give them 100%.
DU exists so we can vent about these feckless thugs and the harm they're doing to people who don't deserve it.
procon
(15,805 posts)responsibility. No matter how many good old boys will die, Trump's cult will remain forever loyal to him. Other foes will be blamed, and some hapless scapegoat will be found from their dog eared list of traditional favorite enemies.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
still_one
(92,217 posts)in Lansing Michigan to reopen the economy, ignoring the fact that Michigan is the third largest numbers of its populace impacted by the virus
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)to all above posts.
Butterflylady
(3,544 posts)But, it's their choice, so be it!
Skittles
(153,169 posts)remember, these folk have kids, and parents, and maybe even Democratic friends
ffr
(22,670 posts)It has infected 2 million people worldwide, but it has claimed 141,915 lives worldwide to date.
ffr
(22,670 posts)babylonsister
(171,070 posts)copy/paste. Will must have updated it, so I did in the OP. Thanks for correcting that.
keithbvadu2
(36,827 posts)Web newspaper articles, editorials and such are not absolutely trustworthy for historical/recent reference.
They can get changed to reflect new/updated facts or political correctness.
The print copy is solid but the internet copy can suddenly be different.
ffr
(22,670 posts)tblue37
(65,403 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Or is that too mean?
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner, given their unwillingness to adhere to social distancing and other edicts, or outright defiance of them. It's only going to get worse once this latest batch start getting sick. And, many of them will get this thing.
bucolic_frolic
(43,178 posts)and think it will never happen to them because of their righteousness. They think they are incinerating liberals. Who's to stop them? They are so pig-headed they will do what they want. They are narcissists just like their hero, they crave attention.
Mercurian
(48 posts)We have one hospital to serve the County. As of Wednesday we had twenty confirmed cases and 59 quarantined as 'probable'. We're a Red state, but our Governor is Blue so we're probably not high on the test kit priority list.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Mine too. (I like to think that I'm relatively young and healthy, but, being in my fifties, I ain't no spring chicken anymore.)
My town isn't really shut down. The restaurants are drive-through only, but most workplaces are still open (albeit with modest additional precautions).
Once Trump and Brain(less) Kemp give the go ahead, everyone (except a select few) will go right back to normal. Unless the virus is extremely sensitive to heat and humidity, we are abso-fucking-lutely guaranteed a second wave. Hell, for us, it'll just be a continuation of the first wave. Our curve won't even have had a chance to flatten in the first place.
I'm getting really resentful.
infullview
(981 posts)Hopefully enough.....
Dukkha
(7,341 posts)But not a frog's fat ass chance of it. Darwinism at its finest.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)Why post any articles from him here?
ProfessorGAC
(65,070 posts)Got your back, M.
sheshe2
(83,789 posts)Called Obama a POSUCS for his own screw up of his wife's medical condition and Meds before he moved from MA to NH. Massive thread that was kicked and recommended and was given very good advise from DUers here. He did not take that advise and doubled down on his Obama hatred with another massive thread. Even his mother, a poster here, told him to self delete.
Stated clearly that he would not vote for Hillary. He helped give us trump.
Threatened a homeless woman.
All on this board, a Democratic board.
ProfessorGAC
(65,070 posts)I remember every one of those events.
And, he told me I didn't understand, despite the fact that I've had MS for 23 years. (Fewer years back then of course.)
I agree with you two.
I don't think his pontificating should be posted here.
He had his chance.
sheshe2
(83,789 posts)I am so sorry, ProfessorGAC, no compassion for others that suffer, yet all about him. Reminds me of trump...' it is all about me...not my fault'.
Best to you and yours in these times.
ProfessorGAC
(65,070 posts)When he did that famous POS... rant, I told him to settle, because MS is not a death sentence.
He went off on me by PM!
Is it possible that his wife's case was worse than mine? Sure! MS is a capricious, highly scattered malady.
But, I thought I was trying to help and get him to back off the Obama bashing.
No such luck. Pretty insulting.
After the PM, I went after him on another of his rants.
Got my first hide ever.
So, I'm the bad guy. Go figure.
He did have a small cult of personality here, in the early days.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)I so wish there was a cure for MS. I would not wish it on anyone.
ProfessorGAC
(65,070 posts)Burning in the feet, blind in left eye, but basically nothing worse than it was 20 years ago.
Apparently, about 1 in 12,000 patients go into spontaneous abatement for anywhere from 7 years to the rest of their life.
Apparently, I'm one of the more fortunate.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)lapucelle
(18,270 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)What an asshole!
sheshe2
(83,789 posts)babylonsister
(171,070 posts)Nobody is forcing anyone to read them.
Cha
(297,298 posts)enough to say he "..wouldn't vote for Hillary.. ". How's that working out for him.. and the rest of us?
& yeah I won't be reading it
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)multiple times for good cause? A lot of people here remember his efforts to keep people from voting for Obama and Hillary and want him to stay gone. Do you really think filthy articles like, "Hillary Clinton: The Neocon in Democrat's Clothing" didn't undermine voters' belief in her as a lifelong liberal Democrat? And help elect Trump?
Well, he's been at it again with a third presidential candidate: Joe Biden. Google Truthout and any top Democrat's name to make what he's up to pop far more visibly than checking current website offerings. Try...Pelosi just for fun.
But time allows us to check for truth with the benefit of hindsight and determine whether political writers are wise men or fools and/or subversives. Even those who once believed Pitt's description of Obama as a "Trojan Horse" president inserted into the WH by Big Business should now be able to recognize that insidious slander for what it was, AND to recognize the recurring theme being pushed about our Democratic nominees.
How about this one: "Super PACs Are Pouring Millions Into Backing Joe Biden." Recognize the recurrent deceit being instilled into receptive brains AND the massive lie itself? About the presidential candidate who ran and won on almost no money?
NO to this hostile agent, please.
Auggie
(31,173 posts)whether I agree or disagree.
lapucelle
(18,270 posts)On at least one of our own days in this unmeasurable ocean of time, you were afforded the opportunity to cast a ballot for Bernie Sanders, to knock on doors for him, to hold his sign aloft.
Remember the bird at Bernies podium four years ago? Consider, now, the cosmic chances that came together to make such a thing possible. A long combination of astronomy, anthropology, biology, physics, ornithology, politics and simple beauty clockworked that moment into existence.
It is an astonishment that bends light to be here, now, within this mote in the temporal eye of all existence. Look at the stars tonight. Look, and realize how lucky you are to be part of this pinprick of time, to share it with Bernie Sanders and everything he stands for. Four and a half billion years of the planet never heard of him. You did. That is more than luck. Its a blessing from the universe.
https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-impact-lives-on/
Auggie
(31,173 posts)lapucelle
(18,270 posts)Ummm this...
Auggie
(31,173 posts)lapucelle
(18,270 posts)into a political paen, not so much.
On how well we understand this cosmos
In which we float like a mote of dust
In the morning sky...
The first moment in human history
When we are in fact visiting other worlds
Beringia
(4,316 posts)lapucelle
(18,270 posts)and reminded us how lucky we are to live in this time, it was elegant brilliance.
Appropriated, overly-embellished, and repurposed to pay homage to a politician, it's just embarrassing.
http://www.songlyrics.com/symphony-of-science/a-glorious-dawn-lyrics/
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)lapucelle
(18,270 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)lapucelle
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Arazi
(6,829 posts)Or any of the rest jumping to bash Will Pitt now
murielm99
(30,745 posts)Please elaborate.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Bravenewsblog
Ismnotwasm just posted an article by her last week.
Bravenak was one of the worst shitstirrers here for a few years and was also banned. Tbh, she was far far worse than Will. Ever.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)Whataboutism at its finest! LOL
I have interacted with Pitt. I find him an arrogant lout. I cancelled my membership in Truthout years ago.
I have never interacted with Bravenak.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,237 posts)She told far more truth than William Rivers Pitt and Truthout ever did. However, if she was reinstated the attacks on her would start immediately. I would probably be on a jury for one of her posts within a day, just like I was on juries for her posts frequently back in 2015 and 2016.
How dare a woman of color have an opinion. I saw that in the office when I worked and I saw it on DU. BTW, check my profile--I'm a white male.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Has nothing to do with her color. She's a flamethrower
TexasTowelie
(112,237 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 16, 2020, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)
Pitt has his platform on Truthout, but I would much rather read Bravenak's opinions than Pitt's opinions, the guy that said President Obama was a POSUC and who criticizes Democrats on a regular basis. I have no respect for him whatsoever.
REINSTATE BRAVENAK!
sheshe2
(83,789 posts)sheshe2
(83,789 posts)Never called Obama as POSUCS.
Never refused to vote for Hillary.
Never threatened a homeless woman.
Never trashed Our sitting President or our GE candidate.
Response to Arazi (Reply #64)
George II This message was self-deleted by its author.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)She posted things here that people did not like. Someone dug deeply enough to find out her real identity and address. They sent her threatening things in the snail mail. She is the mother of minor children. That is completely uncalled for!
I would not like it if I learned there were people threatening Will Pitt. However, he makes no secret of who he is.
betsuni
(25,537 posts)or a "piece of shit used car salesman" and promote the "both sides" nonsense a problem on a site for Democrats? It isn't. She's the base. Nothing to complain about. She was very kind, one of the few members here who was nice to me when I first joined, gave me the benefit of the doubt and didn't assume I was a sock or troll. She was nicer than I could ever be to some people.
Bravenak was a Bernie Sanders supporter until she wasn't and never insulted or name-called anyone not supporting Sanders. Much better wit than Pitts, more interesting, better writer too.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)His execrable performance after Barack Obama took office demonstrates that he is not a writer whose judgment should be trusted. He attacked President Obama crudely and obscenely from the very beginning of his first term in office, and even more viciously after the ACA was adopted.
For his performance, he was banned from DU, and rightly so. He called our President a "piece of shit used car salesman" after he misunderstood the ACA with regard to some issue. He was incorrect in what he said, but there is no forgiving that sort of an attack on a Democratic President.
His writings have no place here because of that, in my opinion. I say that, meaning no disrespect to you as a long-time, prolific poster on DU. I would simply request that you post no more from that source.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)insults your sensibilities, you can go read something else.
I like the way he writes and thinks (usually, except when it seems he doesn't), and make no apologies.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Apparently, you intend to post more from that author. So, I'll just skip your posts as well, I guess.
Cha
(297,298 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)William is GOOD GUY
he was upset and lashed out because of a recent serious health diagnosis of his wife but you know that
time to FORGIVE already
MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)Funny how that works.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,770 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)check his writings right up to TODAY and say he should be forgiven. Imo, he should be sentenced to 10 years in a cell with Trump. And that's if this is all just personal malice, not even if he's a paid agent for one of our enemies. Smearing Democrats is a lot more than merely an avocation for him. He puts a great deal of work consistently into it.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Not mine.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)But I get it... we often want to appear clever.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)abakan
(1,819 posts)He may need all those lambs come election time. Not a wise move to kill your supporters, donny.
Owl
(3,642 posts)K&R
IronLionZion
(45,451 posts)ARPad95
(1,671 posts)"Travis Duffy should be spending the day working on the farm he manages, while getting ready for the birth of his son in about five weeks.
Instead, the 39-year-old Canastota man is in Upstate University Hospitals intensive care unit, fighting to stay alive and beat the coronavirus. The virus has a stranglehold on him, and Duffys family and girlfriend say its hour by hour.
Travis, who has had asthma since he was a child but is otherwise healthy, is on a ventilator and has pneumonia, said his sister, Jessica Duffy. He has been flipped on his belly to help him breathe, she said.
They are all praying for his recovery, and hoping he will qualify for experimental plasma therapy as soon as possible.
His girlfriend, Kilee Coye, 25, has tested positive for the virus, and has some symptoms. She is 35 weeks pregnant. While she doesnt have a fever, she has lost her sense of smell and taste, and has a cough, headache and some vomiting."
[full story at link below]
[link:https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/04/cny-farmer-39-with-coronavirus-fighting-for-his-life-pregnant-girlfriend-sick-with-virus-too.html|
If it's happening to an under 40-year-old farmer in rural New York, it's definitely going to happen to others (Trump supporters or not) in rural areas of America.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)denial and gaslighting, hmm..... Putin should know huh? tRump is a tyrant that wears a suit.
andym
(5,444 posts)among his rural supporters. They already have their scapegoats: liberal governors, WHO and China. Not only that some are willing martyrs for the cause-- like the Texas Lt governor who was willing to sacrifice himself for his grandchildren's economic benefit.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)or a rural area?
On the one hand, urban areas have a lot more people close together so there are more opportunities for the virus to spread. But urban areas tend to have more medical facilities and more health care personnel.
On the other hand rural areas are less densely populated so hopefully the virus will not spread so readily because there are fewer people . But rural areas have fewer hospitals and clinics and fewer doctors.
The way things are going we might have answers to these questions soon enough.
I live in a rural area myself. So far out of a population of 60,000 people in my county there have been 11 confirmed cases and one death. At the present time nobody with covid-19 is hospitalized in our local hospital so their facilities have not been overrun yet. The hospital says it is ready for this and there is no shortage of medical supplies. I hope they are telling the truth but I wonder if they just might be saying that so that people aren't scared.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)We have 28 confirmed cases and 1 death in our county. The hospital closest to me has only four ICU beds. We use another hospital and health care system to the north of us. They are affiliated with Madison WI as well. I don't know how any of them feel about their levels of preparation.
The thing that worries me here is non-compliance with the stay at home rules. Some of these MAGATs deliberately flout them. They mock the virus, and laugh at people who wear masks. I sometimes see them congregating in parking lots.
The largest city in our county has a population of a little less than 10,000 people. Some of the cases are from that city. I think the others may be from nursing homes.
I intend to stay home as much as possible. I hope you do the same. Be safe.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)really scary is the little town of Albany, GA. When people congregate for church, weddings, funerals, etc., that could impact an entire town.
I hope rural areas are now more aware; Albany wasn't so lucky.
Days After a Funeral in a Georgia Town, Coronavirus Hit Like a Bomb
A mourner came to Albany, Ga., to attend the funeral of a retired janitor. After a pause while the infections incubated, the virus swept through the community.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/us/coronavirus-funeral-albany-georgia.html
DFW
(54,405 posts)The survivors will still vote for him if their pastor is still alive to remind them to.
NNadir
(33,525 posts)lapucelle
(18,270 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He's taken the Michael Moore tactic on fortune telling... basically, if you make enough predictions then you're likely to be right one time by accident. Then, he can forever point to that ONE TIME (out of a thousand) that "he was right" as some sort of justification that his experience and knowledge and wisdom should be trusted. All because of "one time" he just happened to be right.
William Pitt strikes me as someone who's a pompous ass, near as I can tell.