Sen.Warren just said she would accept a VP invitation?

[Kingofalldems]

Thought I heard that, she was just on Rachel.

[dhol82]

1. Yes she did.

Sat back and said to myself, hmm, it might work.

[highplainsdem]

2. Yes, she said that. Other thread about the interview here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213294034

[handmade34]

3. well of course

and so did Stacy Abrams, and Harris, and probably most relevant Democratic women

[Mersky]

4. Yay! Good!

[mvd]

5. Younger would be nice, but..

Warren would be one exception to that, IMO. A good unity ticket.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Can we afford to lose her powerful, effective voice from the Senate and her vote there?

She was my choice for candidate and there is no plausible case that she would be a bad VP or bad for the ticket. The opposite rather, she would be a strong asset before and after the election.

However, taking the Senate would be a huge boost to Biden for repairing tRump destruction. Taking the Senate generally means keeping Senate seats.

[mvd]

15. I do like her in the Senate, but..

if she can really help Biden beat Trump, it is worth it IMO.

[Hortensis]

36. Same question in 2016 when Hillary wanted her, and it

was believed that MA law provided paths to limiting the problems of resigning the senate seat. The only thing I remember is that she could start the clock running on how long the governor could delay holding a special election to replace her by sending a required resignation letter on one date that stated she'd actually continue to serve in the seat until a later date. That'd shorten the period a conservative appointee would serve, even conceivably to nothing.

Despite what happened when Ted Kennedy died, it seems very unlikely that the people of MA would replace Warren with a conservative now....surely?

Perhaps since 2016 MA's misogynistic Democratic men would be too chastened to act out against her as VP by replacing her with a Republican.

Warren was reelected overwhelmingly in 2018, so as with Hillary women in the senate is clearly something they've accepted. Although her popularity in MA did dip again during this primary run, they could oppose her safely in the primary without risking reelecting Trump. And, of course, next November they'd be able to vote for a man for president itself.

[MissMillie]

41. MA isn't likely to replace her with a republican

although... I suppose it's not unheard of.

[UTUSN]

6. You heard what you thought you heard!1 Much pressure on Joe much? Stacy also said she's ready.

[Hortensis]

24. Warren very possibly set this up with Joe's permission.

Warren endorsed today and, possibly not coincidentally, today The New Yorker published, "The Case for Joe Biden to Pick Elizabeth Warren as His Running Mate," and other media are suddenly discussing it.

You might remember that long ago some of his staffers reported that back in 2015, if Joe decided to run, he wanted Warren as his running mate and that they met to discuss it. All of this means whatever it means, of course, a whole bunch or nothing.

Btw, Rep. Abrams has served in our Georgia state house and has zero experience in national government. A couple terms running the state of GA as governor would have given her the sort of high-grade experience the electorate wants and needs, but that hasn't happened yet.

[UTUSN]

28. Lots of your info to digest. Well, if Joe gave the go-ahead, it's a flag testing for salutes OK.

As for Stacey, well, "zero experience in national government" - along with the previous ways of doing things - is out the window in the post-SHITLER era.

Thanks for the post to chew on!

[LenaBaby61]

7. Sen.Warren just said she would accept a VP invitation?

She said YES .....

[elleng]

8. Yes, fast and direct.

[Kingofalldems]

9. Discussing the virus now.

Refreshing to see someone who knows what they are talking about and not bragging about ratings or some nonsense.

[ChubbyStar]

14. I like a long shot but Liz lost it at the 8th pole

She isn't going anywhere.

[Kingofalldems]

19. She was my prediction early on.

Joe has lots of good choices actually.

[Srkdqltr]

10. If Biden doesn't tap her for vice pres he is a fool

[elleng]

12. Not at all, there are lots of other people AND

there are other jobs for her; thinking Treasury Secretary, to help clean up some of this mess.

[Srkdqltr]

16. You are not necessarily wrong. There are others who are good.

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But I can't help thinking she would be best.

[elleng]

17. VERY well spoken,

as the VP nominee MUST be, but age and race could be better?

[elleng]

48. Certainly not the main 2 qualifications,

and surely not thinking of 'discriminating.' Trying to ascertain, who adds most to the ticket, and among the many, would serve US and POTUS best.

[Drunken Irishman]

26. I would say so if she, or Biden, was 10 years younger.

But a ticket with two candidates in their 70s is tough. I just don't see it.

[FloridaBlues]

20. I think however it is will be a great choice.

I would hate to lose a Senator than be replaced by a republican

[WhiteTara]

11. And Stacey Abrams is also

auditioning. I'm still holding my hope on Kamala. But I have been disappointed in politics for almost all my life.

[TexasTowelie]

18. What does Warren bring that would help Biden win the election?

I like Warren, but what voting block does she bring that would help Biden win the Electoral College? I don't see her on the ticket will help us flip any of the swing states. Yes, she is more progressive than Biden, but I don't see her bringing in many of the Bernie voters that are reluctant about Biden.

So we would a Democratic vote in the Senate and there doesn't appear to be any appreciable gain in the Electoral College. Any additional votes that she brings on the left may offset voters lost in the center. While Warren is certainly capable and her inclusion on the ticket wouldn't influence my decision about voting for Biden, I don't understand the political calculus.

It seems like there would be a better option to help us win swing states such as Arizona, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

[TexasTowelie]

40. Young progressive voter?

They can't be shamed or brow beaten into voting.

That doesn't seem to be a good reason. Those young progressive voters didn't show up to vote for either Sanders or Warren in the primary. They haven't really shown up to vote in any election, including Obama. I know that in Texas we have been expecting them to turn out to vote since the first time I met the eligibility age requirements back in 1984.

Relying upon young progressive voters to show up in record numbers to vote is not a sound strategy, particularly if they are expected to vote for candidates over 70 years old. There are other demographic groups that should be targeted so that Biden wins in the swing states that would give an Electoral College victory. I don't think Warren pulls in enough voters to help us cross the finish line and win any additional states. The evidence is that Warren didn't place higher than third in any of the primaries where she was a candidate.

[TexasTowelie]

46. The candidate does not necessarily need to have national appeal.

If Biden hadn't committed to nominating a woman, then O'Rourke would have been a suitable option. They have reasonably similar policy stances and he could conceivably be the factor that would pull Texas into the blue column with 38 electoral votes--we would have a different pathway than trying to win the three states in the Rust Belt. He also appeals to young voters and Latinx voters which could carry states like Arizona, Florida, and Texas. More new voters were registered in Texas during his 2018 Senate race than when Bernie ran in either 2016 or 2020--I checked the Secretary of State voter registration data from 2014 to the present to verify that statement.

I think that Senators Klobuchar and Tammy Baldwin along with Gov. Whitmer have more potential to help Biden win in the swing states in the Rust Belt and Midwest than Senator Warren and they would be better fits for Biden from a policy perspective than Warren who is already discussing what things she wants to change. It's the president's decision as to what needs to change and while Biden might be amenable to some of Warren's suggestions, ultimately the buck stops with the president. Warren wants to be a leader rather than a team member and that could set up potential conflicts between her and Biden.

[grandpamike1]

21. Senator Warren

Is needed more as a Senator, than a Vice President, at the moment.

[MissMillie]

42. You think MA will replace her w/ a Republican? (n/t)

.

[Nonhlanhla]

23. Warren brings one big advantage: she could be president on Day 1.

With Biden in his late 70s and potentially becoming frail over the next few years (no, I don't agree with the smear that he has dementia; I'm just realistic about his age), having a VP who could take over at a moment's notice would be good. Many of the women being mentioned are a bit green when it comes to national experience. But Warren's experience and her competence would make her an excellent president, and therefore an excellent VP. She's no youngster, but at 70 she is several years younger than Biden, and women generally have a bit more longevity.

[Hortensis]

27. Actually, her resume is a definite weak point, but in 2015

if Joe ran he wanted Warren as his running mate and they did meet to discuss it.

Not putting her down because I think they'd be a great team, but until Obama only one other president had ever been elected directly from the senate, a slow, deliberative body by design where senators serve as one of 100 decisionmakers, not exactly the nation's top administrative hot seat. Historically, we've always especially liked governors (me!), especially if they also have other experience. In most states, governors are the chief executive with powers and responsibilities analogous to the president's.

As it is, though, until she was elected to the senate in 2013 (7 years ago), though, her government experience was as an economic adviser to various commissions and decisionmakers, culminating in becoming chair of the congressional oversight committee board. In 2010 Obama appointed her to set up and run the consumer protection bureau she'd proposed, but her appointment was derailed by the Republicans and he had to give the job to someone else.

One thing we know, though, is that she is well suited to the role of a decision maker, and another that from day 1 Biden's VP would start gaining extensive experience as his "assistant president" n the WH, something no other job could ever match.

[tavernier]

25. Oh but I sooooo want to see Kamala debate Pence.

It would be even more fun than going to Disney World!!

[Hortensis]

29. Lol, but! Have you forgotten that that creepy former RW radio host

wiped the floor with Tim Kaine? Kaine's far more intelligent, but his Jesuit-trained principled rationality was no match. Harris is a prosecutorial pit bull, but Pence is slick and has years of practice in looking principled while deceiving and corrupting the minds of those who listen to him. While as a woman, the more blood she drew the more she'd lose, requiring her to step down on where she's most impressive in debates. He'd have to be careful attacking a woman, and she'd have to behave like what people want to see in a woman. "Cold," boring olicy geek Hillary actually finally nailed it, an impressive testament to the enormous hard work she brought to the task. We've seen Harris doing her own version of the shimmy, though.

But I think Elizabeth Warren's sparkling, iconoclastic, aspirational energy would stand a far better chance of making Pence look like the coldhearted, wealth-serving, white male power figure he is. He'd slip in some shivs against her, but she uses those for pivots to selling people on what she wants to accomplish.

Eugene Robinson just said Harris is his frontrunner for the nomination but didn't say why. In strong, assertive manner and relative youth at least, as well as racial and ethnic mixtures, she'd also make a great complement to Biden on the stage and looks like someone who could take over. How would she be for the role of Biden to his Obama? They're being considered for that too.

[tavernier]

30. Of course Warren would be fantastic...

I just hate losing a senate seat.

[Hortensis]

33. Well, maybe. Back in 2016, when Hillary wanted Warren,

study of the problem turned up potential ways MA law could be used to limit the period a temporary appointee would be in office. Of course, there's no guarantee that MA voters wouldn't replace her with a Republican, but that'd be very strange after what's been going on.

[MissMillie]

43. A vacant U.S. Senate seat from MA

is not filled by appointment, not even temporarily--(I TAKE THIS BACK... IT CAN BE FILLED WITH AN INTERIM APPOINTMENT)

Special election within 145-160 days.

[DrToast]

38. Pence is a pretty good debater

He comes off as calm and rational.... even if he’s loco.

[Hortensis]

39. Yes. We underestimated what talent and skills it took to be a

RW radio host. Providing simple rationales and helping people develop excuses for sucking up appealing lies and adopting despicable viewpoints was what he did.

[yellowwoodII]

31. Yes

Let it be! She is absolutely the best qualified choice. As far as her Senate seat is concerned, another qualified person will step up. The country needs her informed voice. Biden needs her informed voice.

[TexasTowelie]

45. The likely replacement from the Democratic side

if Warren is chosen as the VP nominee is Rep. Joe Kennedy III. He is running against Sen. Ed Markey in the state primary in September.