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US Intelligence say there is a possiblilty Covid came from lab. Articles everywhere here's one from (Original Post) Pisces Apr 2020 OP
The article does not say anyone thinks it Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #1
The title alone says they are weighing possibility virus escaped from lab??? Pisces Apr 2020 #2
I'm as liberal as they come, and I don't doubt it originated in nature from bats, however, Pisces Apr 2020 #9
Epidemiologists have known for years that coronaviruses are endemic in bats. yardwork Apr 2020 #11
Yeah, I agree, something isn't right. EndlessWire Apr 2020 #19
I've been seeing lots of articles lately suggesting it wasn't someone eating a bat. Initech Apr 2020 #16
That is t-rump's IC, which I do not trust . . Iliyah Apr 2020 #3
I dunno EndlessWire Apr 2020 #20
When U.S. Intelligence Seems In Any Way To Support One Of The Cheap Thug's Hopes The Magistrate Apr 2020 #4
No they didn't. Voltaire2 Apr 2020 #5
I read that... stillcool Apr 2020 #6
"I find it very funny that China very quickly blamed the market," Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #7
Was it Obama's lab in Kenya? The one funded by George Soros? milestogo Apr 2020 #8
With Trump making appiontments to US intelligence agencies, how can they be trusted? Flaleftist Apr 2020 #10
I heard a story out of Australia claiming that a couple of weeks ago, it could have accidentally .. Snake Plissken Apr 2020 #12
This is the latest news Rstrstx Apr 2020 #14
I can't find the original clip I watched but this clip also covers it Snake Plissken Apr 2020 #17
Occam's Razor.... albacore Apr 2020 #13
Don't think lab incompetence could have caused this? JCMach1 Apr 2020 #15
If we later find that some had a vaccine RussBLib Apr 2020 #18

Pisces

(5,602 posts)
9. I'm as liberal as they come, and I don't doubt it originated in nature from bats, however,
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:49 PM
Apr 2020

2 labs studying virus from bats in Wuhan also sounds hinky. Call me anything you want. I thought this when I heard of all the crazy symptoms. The Chinese will never admit to it and we will never know, but something isn’t right.

yardwork

(61,701 posts)
11. Epidemiologists have known for years that coronaviruses are endemic in bats.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:56 PM
Apr 2020

Of course there were labs in Wuhan studying the coronaviruses in bats. Epidemiologists know that bats in that region carry coronaviruses. This is not a surprise.

EndlessWire

(6,562 posts)
19. Yeah, I agree, something isn't right.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:43 AM
Apr 2020

A few weeks ago, they were talking about the virus and it's relationship to HIV. What?? Now recently, they are talking about HIV treatment being somewhat effective. What?

You just can't blame people for being suspicious. These may be musings, but still it seems like something is wrong.

Initech

(100,100 posts)
16. I've been seeing lots of articles lately suggesting it wasn't someone eating a bat.
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:26 PM
Apr 2020

It was someone studying bats and bat viruses, and gross incompetence caused the virus to escape from the lab.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. That is t-rump's IC, which I do not trust . .
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 08:26 PM
Apr 2020

t-rump's campaign strategy is to further implicate China any means necessary.

EndlessWire

(6,562 posts)
20. I dunno
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 01:53 AM
Apr 2020

who is questioning that it originated in China? Who cares? Trump is being criticized for a tardy reaction and his subsequent attempts to make money off it, and to increase his power. Also, he does not care if we live or die.

Honestly, he's spinning his wheels if he thinks it matters one bit that it came out of China. What matters is that his personality does not allow him to take anyone else's advice because he thinks he knows everything, and he failed to act in a timely manner. And, now he's just showing his ass.

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
4. When U.S. Intelligence Seems In Any Way To Support One Of The Cheap Thug's Hopes
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 08:32 PM
Apr 2020

It can be assumed the recently installed political leadership is distorting intelligence at best, but most likely is simply telling the lie they know the boss wants to hear.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
6. I read that...
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:00 PM
Apr 2020

reminded me of Saddam gassing his own people...my god, how many times did I hear that? I came to the conclusion, that I'll never know...and that's fine by me. I can barely deal with what is.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
7. "I find it very funny that China very quickly blamed the market,"
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:22 PM
Apr 2020

said a retired intelligence official.

Obviously this jerk has NEVER SEEN a Chinese market place.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
10. With Trump making appiontments to US intelligence agencies, how can they be trusted?
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:50 PM
Apr 2020

Like Trump replacing Maguire with Grenell? Am I really supposed to trust anything they say?

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
12. I heard a story out of Australia claiming that a couple of weeks ago, it could have accidentally ..
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 09:56 PM
Apr 2020

been transmitted from a university lab in the city that was using it to develop a vaccine.

And since it takes up to two weeks to show symptoms the person who accidental came in contact with didn't know it until it was too late to contain.


It actually makes sense since they type of mammal required to transmit this virus is not sold at the live seafood market that is being blamed and they were very quick to clean it and destroy any evidence instead of sealing it off and bringing in scientists in protective gear to find out exactly which area of the market was infected and how it became infected.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
14. This is the latest news
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:02 PM
Apr 2020

A Washington Post columnist wrote an interesting article but of course it's behind a paywall. Forbes and Business Insider did some side articles that are accessible.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2020/04/14/the-washington-post-goes-rogue-china-lab-in-focus-of-coronavirus-outbreak/#1296de5d1ee1

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-officials-raised-alarms-about-safety-issues-in-wuhan-lab-report-2020-4

A couple of weeks ago British intelligence raised some eyebrows when they said they could not rule out the possibility of a lab accident.

Good luck finding anything more on the Internet, you'll soon get bogged down into wacky bioengineering conspiracies oozing from far right sites. Right now there's not really any evidence, just coincidences. The story plays well with the xenophobic right and most people covering it have an agenda so be wary.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
17. I can't find the original clip I watched but this clip also covers it
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:48 PM
Apr 2020

It just doesn't have the interview with the Australian doctor who was in Wuhan and said it was highly unlikely it began in that market because nope of the possible host mammals are sold at that particular market.

albacore

(2,405 posts)
13. Occam's Razor....
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 10:57 PM
Apr 2020

It's a fucking virus. They mutate all the time. They have their own rules...and they change the rules all the time.

JCMach1

(27,572 posts)
15. Don't think lab incompetence could have caused this?
Tue Apr 14, 2020, 11:02 PM
Apr 2020

Review the history of Ebola Reston and ask yourself how well the USA's top lab did...

If it was a.human and not monkey Ebola we would have had a huge Ebola outbreak in DC in the 1980s...

RussBLib

(9,034 posts)
18. If we later find that some had a vaccine
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 12:33 AM
Apr 2020

while others were left to fend for themselves, there will be hell to pay.

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