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sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:53 PM Sep 2012

Sam Bacile,maker of anti muslim film,may not be a real person:

Both the AP and the Wall Street Journal have reported interviews with Sam Bacile, the man who claims to be a California real estate developer who raised $5 million from Jewish donors to make his obviously lowest-of-low budget, amateurish anti-Islam film.

But before the July 2012 upload of the film trailer to YouTube, under the user name Sam Bacile, you’d be hard pressed to find evidence of the existence a California real estate developer online. What’s more, if whoever made the film actually spent $5 million on it, the expenditure hardly shows in the content, acting, or production values. Amateurish doesn't even begin to describe the 13-minute trailer on YouTube.....


Consider all the contradictions: small ones, true, like in one account he is 52 and in another he is 56. To the AP he is “a California real estate developer who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew” and to the Times of Israel he is “Jewish and familiar with the region.” And what about that bit at the end of the statement to the Times of Israel—that “even Jesus” should be “in front of the judge”? That sounds like someone who is trying to provoke more than just Muslims. A lot of things don’t add up here about the claimed identity of the filmmaker.

UPDATE: A detail I failed to note earlier this morning from the AP story: “Israeli officials said they had not heard of him and there was no record of him being a citizen. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not permitted to share personal information with the media.”




http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/6377/who_is_%E2%80%9Csam_bacile%E2%80%9D/

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Sam Bacile,maker of anti muslim film,may not be a real person: (Original Post) sufrommich Sep 2012 OP
If you say it quick it sounds like "imbecile" Schema Thing Sep 2012 #1
Are you in, Bacile? Ron Obvious Sep 2012 #5
Ya think? Ron Obvious Sep 2012 #2
Sounds like some right-wing mischief to me. nt ladjf Sep 2012 #3
Also relevant: 11cents Sep 2012 #4
Wow, the plot thickens frazzled Sep 2012 #6
this should be an OP barbtries Sep 2012 #7
Conclusion: Sam Bacile is a made up name. godai Sep 2012 #11
And all of this just happened on 9/11 malaise Sep 2012 #12
More than relevant! The response was anticipated (or PLANNED) summerschild Sep 2012 #15
Yay! Another conspiracy theory! slackmaster Sep 2012 #8
Okay, so who is this guy? Sometimes there are conspiracies. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Evasporque Sep 2012 #9
Corporation, my friend. rgbecker Sep 2012 #10
"Phone call for Amanda Hugginkiss! I'm tryin' to find Amanda Hugginkiss..!" LeftinOH Sep 2012 #13
This whole thing stinks. HappyMe Sep 2012 #14
Lets Not forget Cheney reared his big head tibbiit Sep 2012 #17
The plot thickens. HappyMe Sep 2012 #21
The smell on this is getting worse and worse. Just putrid. I do smell a rat. mfcorey1 Sep 2012 #18
Clearly there is no movie just as there is no Sam Bacile. pa28 Sep 2012 #19
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! false flags a-go-go Sep 2012 #20
That fits. Ganja Ninja Sep 2012 #22
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
5. Are you in, Bacile?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:58 PM
Sep 2012

Are you in, Genius?
Are you in, Capable?

Sorry, just having Bugs Bunney/Roadrunner cartoon flashbacks this morning.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. Wow, the plot thickens
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:03 PM
Sep 2012

I saw this Klein guy quoted in the AP article. Something is really, really fishy here.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
7. this should be an OP
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:04 PM
Sep 2012

the person behind the movie apparently having already caught the attention of the SPLC. all kinds of bigotries eating that man up.

godai

(2,902 posts)
11. Conclusion: Sam Bacile is a made up name.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:16 PM
Sep 2012

With the Ambassador's death, an investigation seems appropriate.

summerschild

(725 posts)
15. More than relevant! The response was anticipated (or PLANNED)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:38 PM
Sep 2012

From your link (thanks so much for that!):

"Klein claims credit for inspiring “Sam Bacile” to produce “The Innocence of Muslims,” promising him he would be “the next Theo Van Gogh,” referring to the Dutch columnist who was murdered by a Muslim extremist. Of the attacks in Libya, Klein said, “We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen.”

Wonder if nitwitmitt realizes these slimeballs he's defending also hate Mormons?

Response to sufrommich (Original post)

tibbiit

(1,601 posts)
17. Lets Not forget Cheney reared his big head
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:49 PM
Sep 2012

Yesterday. A kind of pre-echo, almost coordinated in message saying Obama apologizes and isnt prepared to lead. Then before the real event out pops Rmoney and Bibi. And now we hear the maker of this movie is not a real person ? I bet we find our right-wing billionaires are the anonymous money people and this is the rove/adelson October surprise.
Tib

pa28

(6,145 posts)
19. Clearly there is no movie just as there is no Sam Bacile.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:03 PM
Sep 2012

The "trailer" is a collection of scenes designed to be as inflammatory as possible and that was the only purpose.

Looks like Mr. Klein wanted to stir up trouble and that's exactly what he did. Congratulations.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
22. That fits.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:20 PM
Sep 2012

The actors weren't real actors either.

How cowardly to put this piece of crap film out and not have a single person step up and take credit for it.

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