Why Florida is not a hot spot or epicenter despite later shut down order...

[Pacifist Patriot]

The state has tested 0.81% of the population. My county has tested 0.39% of the population. Yet I'm hearing from friends in healthcare throughout the state that some urban hospitals are already fearing next week will begin to look like NYC.

But they shouldn't worry. I mean only 0.086% of the population has tested positive. There can't be too many more people out there with it, right?

Please tell me the sarcasm smilie is unnecessary.

[hlthe2b]

1. Republican governors doing best to cover their failures, but is not about to work.

They only succeed in hurting/killing their own populace and sowing chaos in the health care system. It is terrifying

[erronis]

16. The (r)epuglicons are counting on being able to rewrite history to suit their purposes

I'm sure they'll all come out as gleaming saviors while those swamp monster democrats will have been vanquished.

Makes me think of the little history I remember from the Bolsheviks and the Chinese communists. Perhaps similar to the rewriting of history during the revolutions in France, Europe, Rome, Greece... OK, now I get the picture.

Hope the way-back-machines keep their archives safe for at least 1,000 years.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. Same in TX. ER doctor on CNN said they would guess only 25%

being reported.

What kind of a low life POS governor do you have to be to say, " sure, I'll make sure the real #s are hidden Mr President.". And how does the conversation even go down? Does Slimeball 45 say, "look, if you want me to stay in office...?"

[Scarsdale]

25. There are several snow birds in my neighborhood.

Maybe Fla. and Texas have lower numbers, because the snow birds went home? One in my neighborhood should have stayed in Texas, since he got back and immediately put up a Trump/Pence sign.

[HarlanPepper]

2. I take the number of reported cases and multiply by 20

So right now my state has about 1700 confirmed cases bus far as I’m concerned we have 34,000 actual cases.

[mcar]

10. We've been trying to figure out how much to multiply it by

We have 68 reported cases in our small county (pop 110,000). It's tripled in about a week. With the dearth of testing and given the age of our residents, I figure it's gotta be 3x that at least.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Heard ER doc in Houston guess that only 25% reported, so use 4x

[mcar]

36. It's as good a guess as any

[littlemissmartypants]

23. Except that it is exponential and the multiplier increases

at an increasingly larger rate.

[HarlanPepper]

26. You do you I'll do me

There’s nothing official about it anyway. Just a way i dealt with my anger and frustration over the lack of testing.

[littlemissmartypants]

32. I'll do math. nt

[babylonsister]

3. I know it's on the way, and it's going to get ugly.

There's still too many people roaming about out there. Unsettling to say the least.

[jimfields33]

7. Yep for weeks it's been said Florida's going to be hit hard

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Did you see heat map of people after they left spring

break? They went all over US. And that means they came from all over US.

[still_one]

4. Let me be the first. The sarcams smile isn't necessary.

[Pacifist Patriot]

9. Much appreciated!

[still_one]

31. ......................

[Roland99]

5. Anecdotal take of people out and about...

On a local FB group, someone posted that they drove down from Atlanta yesterday. Atlanta looked like a ghost town. On a Friday.

Light traffic all down the interstate. Picked up in central FL and here just west of Orlando they said it looked almost like a regular Friday

This local FB group is FILLED with self-centered right wingers and fake christians. Many work for themselves or have small businesses and feel entitled to do whatever they want

[Hortensis]

6. Forida river fishing yesterday (alone), my husband saw several

boats filled with people. Max occupancy, unchanged from before, is 10 per boat. A couple were families, but the rest were young people in probably their 20s, just out having fun with friends.

Risks are not high for that age range, but given the increasingly steep rise starting in the 30s it's likely they are forced by older people in their lives to socially distance around them. It'd be very interesting to know how many live with family they can bring it home to and how many alone or with others of their age and invulnerable disposition.

[Raven]

8. Trump's motto applies here:

"What you don't know won't hurt you."

[erronis]

18. Or, "What I know and won't tell you - will kill you." So long, suckers!

[Baclava]

11. Not really any mass transit, Miami the only really big population density, still spread out

Cleared the beaches and people been in their homes since then

[lark]

12. Florida has no dense urban centers like other states.

EVen the urban areas are not densely populated, there's lots of empty land and housing is cheap so there aren't that many apts. Most apts. are filled with young people, fewer old people live in them here than most other places with large populations. Of course there are a lot of senior centers with more density and that's where the volume has been so far. Under reporting could also be rampant in those places.

[spudspud]

34. Miami is one of the most densely populated urban centers in the country. /nt

[lark]

37. Sorry, but I've been down there and didn't see that, of course that was years ago.

I've flown into Miami, NYC, and Chicago and stayed for days in both Miami and Chicago. Miami doesn't seem nearly the size of the others and I didn't see the miles of apt. buildings. Do you have stats showing that Miami is more dense?

[spudspud]

39. Here's some info.

I've lived here in South Florida for over 34 years now, but here are some stats from Wikipedia:

"Miami, officially the City of Miami, is the seat of Miami-Dade County, and the cultural, economic and financial center of South Florida in the United States. The city covers an area of about 56 square miles (150 km2) between the Everglades to the west and Biscayne Bay to the east. Miami is the sixth most densely populated major city in the United States with an estimated 2018 population of 470,914. The Miami metropolitan area is home to 6.1 million people, the second-most populous in the southeastern United States and the seventh-largest in the nation.[8][9] The city has the third tallest skyline in the U.S. with over 300 high-rises,[10] 55 of which exceed 490 ft (149 m).[11]

Miami is a major center and leader in finance, commerce, culture, arts, and international trade.[12][13] The metro area is by far the largest urban economy in Florida and the 12th largest in the United States, with a GDP of $344.9 billion as of 2017.[14] In 2018, Miami was classified as an Alpha level global city by the GaWC.[15] In 2019, Miami ranked seventh in the United States and 31st among global cities in terms of business activity, human capital, information exchange, cultural experience, and political engagement.[16] According to a 2018 UBS study of 77 world cities, the city was ranked as the third-richest in the United States and the eighth-richest in the world in terms of purchasing power."

Link to Wikipedia article.


And here's what's probably thrown you off about Miami:

"In terms of land area, Miami is one of the smallest major cities in the United States. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the city encompasses a total area of 56.06 sq mi (145.2 km2), of which 35.99 sq mi (93.2 km2) is land and 20.08 sq mi (52.0 km2) is water. That means Miami comprises over 470,000 people in about 36 square miles (93 km2), making it one of the most densely populated cities in the United States, along with New York City, San Francisco, Boston, Chicago, and Philadelphia.[34]"

[lark]

41. Wow, thanks for the info.

I've been in all those cities and they all seem so much bigger than Miami, but it's been a little over 10 years. So then the question is why are FL #'s so low, especially when we have so many nursing homes? Read that Mini-me is hiding 14,000 tests in state health dept. which they are refusing to process to keep the #'s artificially low.

[spudspud]

42. Yep, Gov. Desatan is hiding numbers/info. That's why Miami Herald was filing law suit...

and mini-Trump had his general counsel goon lean on the partners at Holland and Knight (who were previously representing the Miami Herald in the law suit against Desantis) to drop the suit which was to gain info on ALF numbers concerning COVID infections.

[lark]

43. Governor De Satan - yep, that's a good description of that ass.

How I hate his thieving, lying, fascist ass.

[zaj]

13. Not following things.

[Rebl2]

14. I don't

really believe this. I think they aren’t reporting all the cases. Would be interested to know the count in The Villages. Lots if not all are older people there.
How many have not been tested in other states that have the symptoms, but have chosen to stay home and get through it. In Missouri it is quite difficult to get tested. Is it this way in other states?

[Blue_true]

15. An Ambulance and a fire truck visited my street in Florida twice today.

I saw one woman get taken to the hospital. All the emergency people were wearing masks and obviously, gloves. No special suits like Tyvex.

I did't see what happened in the second case, but I got the conclusion that the ambulance was still at the call, I did other things and didn't watch for the ambulance to pass my home.

It is highly unusual for one ambulance every two months to come near where I live.

[Evolve Dammit]

17. They don't want to know how many are infected. Bad for business. Just die and call it undetermined.

[erronis]

20. We can't know the true rate of infection without epidemiological testing. Randomized.

But the US is only doing testing for cause. Because you are symptomatic or have other well-known possible exposure.

Without general population testing we're operating in a staged environment. Politicians will play these numbers all ways.

[Chainfire]

22. Here in Florida

We are just a bunch of Republican Supermen. (women don't count) That is why we aren't afraid of this little cold. Now grow up and open up Dizzy World! Bring on the tourists! Sloppy Joe's is waiting! Go Gators!

[Loki Liesmith]

27. Their appears to be a slight but real inverse correlation with temperature

[benld74]

28. This was on Maddow Last night.

Bookmark the site. Best yet

https://covid19.topos.com/

Stay safe

[spinbaby]

29. I know an ER nurse in Orlando

It’s there.

[ancianita]

30. Keepin' death numbers down and cause of deaths unknown.

Flurida.

[gibraltar72]

33. Desantis has 107 bodies in his garage he doesn't know what to do with.

[Pacifist Patriot]

35. I think he's using them for regular heart and brain transplants

Since he hasn't got either.

[pecosbob]

38. Only recording/reporting 1.6% of cases nationally was the estimate I read

Trump's don't ask, don't tell policy.

[pecosbob]

40. Looks pretty hot in this map

https://infection2020.com/