Terry Jones = Osama bin Laden

[DemocratSinceBirth]

They both want to create a clash between East and West. The only difference and it's a huge one is the former lacks a terrorist network. As far as the attack and murder of our diplomat this cowardly action only furthers the interests of the Terry Jones and the Osama bin Ladens of the world.



on edit- Anybody who commits violent acts should be sough after, captured and punished. The punishment for cretins like Terry Jones should be opprobrium and public, not governmental, censure.

[Nye Bevan]

1. Nope. Terry Jones = Salman Rushdie.

Created something that was highly offensive to many people, yet is protected by free speech.

Disclaimer: "The Satanic Verses" was actually a good book, but Jones' movie is a piece of shit. So the "=" obviously overstates it, but it is a better analogy than to OBL.

[Bragi]

2. Yep, I agree completely /nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. I Respectfully Disagree

Terry Jones hates Muslims and want to start a war between us and them. Salman Rushdie just wrote a book some zealots don't like. However the responses to both shock the conscience.

[cleanhippie]

8. ^^THIS^^

[Dr. Strange]

16. That's a more fitting equivalence.

[ladjf]

4. Jones should be incarcerated pending treason charges. nt

[Nye Bevan]

5. Because the First Amendment should only protect speech that you approve of, right? (nt)

[ladjf]

6. I don't think that the First Amendment gives any American the right to willfully attempt to

incite violence and particularly when National foreign policy is interfered with.

Whether you or I are right on this issue should be decided in the Courts.

[Nye Bevan]

7. So I can prevent anyone from saying something I don't like by announcing that I will murder anyone

who says it. Because if they say it, they will then be "inciting violence".

[truebrit71]

10. Try yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theatre..

..yes, language that incites violence should be prevented..

[Nye Bevan]

11. IF you ever criticize Romney again on DU, I am going to punch someone.

Now, make sure you never incite me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. That's What The Supreme Court Has Decided

In the U.S. a person can say X group should be exterminated. He just can't say it should be exterminated when he or she is leading a group of armed men into their neighborhood.

Our free speech laws are exceptionally broad and thankfully so...

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

15. The standard is "imminent lawless action"

per the USSC in Brandenburg v. Ohio which clarified the previous "clear and present danger" standard. If the speaker only advocates violence at an indefinite future time it's protected speech, but if they intend violence that is both imminent and likely it's not protected speech (which are judgment calls depending on the context). Here, I think the challenge is to show imminence since the violence occurred abroad and whether it's lawless, since the violence occurred in another jurisdiction. I'd like to hear creative arguments both ways.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Jones Is A Despicable Human Being

But , thankfully, the First Amendment protect even the despicable.

[Hutzpa]

13. "The former lacks a terrorist network"

We may not know that as he is not consider a terrorist yet or is being overlook as a terrorist by homeland security,
but if you ask me, I'll say yes because he is showing one of the traits which is to support financially organization that
promotes terrorist acts, also he might just have the network to support his agenda.

[SoapBox]

14. I'll side with DemocratSinceBirth

...bottom line.

It's looking like Jones MAY be directly responsible for stirring the very fragile pot, along with Mr. Movie/Hiding Out guy, by posting
the movie crap on the net.

Jones and his 50 person "church", hate Islam. Period. He has already tried bullshit that would start worldwide riots and it took a call
from the President to stop "Burn a Koran Day".

He cannot be defended on any grounds and is despicable.

[progressoid]

17. ?