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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe death count is totally exaggerated!
Just to let you know. This is what the Right Wingers are saying now. Theyre saying flu deaths arent being counted anymore, theyre counting them as Covid-19. Theyre also saying hospitals get money for every Covid-19 death. Be prepared for Trump to start saying this by tomorrow.
Theyre sick.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)We cant survive them, I have sadly predicted that for a very long time.
there was going to be something that happened that their ignorance and hate would doom us all...for a long time I assumed it would be their encouragement of Rump to nuke Iran, but I see now it is the virus.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)🤮
Laelth
(32,017 posts)I hope that our death totals fall far below current projections.
That said, I suspect these polyannas are wrong. Its vastly more likely that the death totals are, and will continue to be, UNDERREPORTED rather than exaggerated.
-Laelth
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)Remember the last time during perfectly normal flu season, they had to line up refrigerator trucks to hold corpses and use fork lifts to get them into the trucks?
Me neither.
So sick of these assholes.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)He gets all of his latest material from conspiracy sites.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Tribetime
(4,697 posts)He was in a wheelchair and I was really surprised and his responses I was there for a plumbing job I have a mask on and when I got done I was talking to him and he had mentioned only less than 1% of the people die who get it and the younger people who are on spring break can run out anywhere and get a test and they have some medication for him to give him right away to make sure they don't get sick it was time to end the conversation then. So according to him anybody and get a test anytime they want and less than 1% of the people die from this and they have a medication that can cure it
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)If you die before you get tested, the morgue doesn't do a test. People who dies in December and January were probably listed as "pneumonia" or something and aren't being included. And the homeless rarely get an autopsy much less a test for the virus.
Ms. Toad
(34,073 posts)Unfortunately, the numbers will make this believable to low-information voters.
Cases of influenza have dramatically decreased (at least in our county) since the stay at home order. This should surprise no one. But these same people will believe flu is being classified as COVID 19, rather than recognizing that all measures taken to suppress COVID 19 will also suppress the flu (probably more dramaticaly since the incubation period is potentially so much shorter - making the measures even more effective against the flu than against COVID 19.
dhill926
(16,339 posts)with data from a non right-wing site...
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)Im sure every death earns them money from the Boogeyman himself.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)Flu-like data might help track coronavirus spread. Why did Florida stop publishing it?
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241784446.html
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)flu-like-illnesses. You really cannot tell who's sick with what without universal testing. It only makes sense to count all illnesses that fall into the range of respiratory illnesses. At some point, flu cases should wane and the majority of cases in the models should be cv19
ConnorMarc
(653 posts)Nothing new.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)spinbaby
(15,090 posts)Sooner or later, almost everyone will lose a relative, friend, or coworker. Thats when it will hit home. I dont even live in a hard-hit area and know someone with Covid-19.
Igel
(35,309 posts)It's assigning 100% of the responsibility to SARS-CoV-2. Most of the dead have something else wrong. If you get the flu but are already really weakened, what's the killer--the new thing or the old one? Without one, the other's harmless.
Know your numbers. The # of dead for today aren't the number that died today--it's the number reported for today. So Sunday's have less reporting, but still people die, and the spike shows up on Monday when Sunday's dead hit the data stream. Similarly, if you have COVID and die, you died from COVID. Strictly speaking, it might not even be necessary for it to be something related, you have COVID, a weak heart, and do something strenuous--you'd die without COVID so you die with COVID, and it's not your heart, it's the virus.
On the other hand, there are people on the left no better, asserting that since the numbers for some states are so high all the others must have similarly high numbers but be lying. Or they just don't bother reporting them, to keep the numbers down.
Cray-cray wraps around and meets up on the backside.
I have no reason to assume either "mistake" is that common and that they average out, more or less. Within 5%, which is pretty good for this kind of data.