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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:24 AM Sep 2012

"Romney was faced with an important leadership test last night. He failed spectacularly." (updated)

Romney fails critical leadership test

By Steve Benen

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It seems as if Romney has finally gone too far. NBC News' First Read called out "one of the most over-the-top and (it turns out) incorrect attacks of the general-election campaign," which looks "worse and worse" as more information comes to light.

This was news-cycle campaigning by the Romney campaign gone awry. Why didn't the Romney campaign wait until it had all the facts? On his overseas trip in the summer, Romney was so careful not to criticize Obama while on foreign soil. But how much time do you give an administration to work through a diplomatic and international crisis before trying to score immediate political points? You'd expect the Sarah Palins of the world to quickly pounce on something like this, and she predictably did. But a presidential nominee running for the highest office in the land?

After the facts have come out, last night's Romney statement only feeds the narrative that his campaign is desperate.

ABC News' Jake Tapper had a related report, noting the challenges facing the Obama administration in light of developments in Libya and Egypt, but also highlighting Romney's mistake.

GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney will likely face questions of his own today, not only about his foreign policy views (Romney had at least five different positions on Libya as of last October) but about his statesmanship.

Before news spread that four Americans had been killed in Benghazi, Romney yesterday issued a statement saying in part: "It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks."

This is an attack that does not stand up to simple chronology.

The Republican candidate was so eager to attack the president that he ended up lying while trying to exploit the deaths of four Americans abroad.

Romney was faced with an important leadership test last night. He failed spectacularly.

Update: Romney is speaking on the violence on camera now.

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/12/13828189-romney-fails-critical-leadership-test

Updated status of Romney appearance.

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"Romney was faced with an important leadership test last night. He failed spectacularly." (updated) (Original Post) ProSense Sep 2012 OP
I hope this finally dooms that assholes campaign. fleur-de-lisa Sep 2012 #1
Not qualified Roy Rolling Sep 2012 #13
I hope it takes the rethug congress down with it. lebkuchen Sep 2012 #35
+ 1 n/t ejbr Sep 2012 #47
If not . . . caseymoz Sep 2012 #52
great points lebkuchen Sep 2012 #60
I can't really listen to what he is saying because DURHAM D Sep 2012 #2
He has that smirk because it all Obama's fault. RC Sep 2012 #6
He's amused because he is a sociopath AllyCat Sep 2012 #8
He looks at the election as a game and he sees this as a win for him karynnj Sep 2012 #23
Dead people are amusing Care Acutely Sep 2012 #25
We already had President George W SMIRKY and we don't need another! WeNeedBetterGovernmt Sep 2012 #32
Wrongney. calimary Sep 2012 #43
I imagine that's the same smirk he would give when.... tex-wyo-dem Sep 2012 #50
He talks about leadership? He can't even organize a press appearance pinboy3niner Sep 2012 #3
Beyond EPIC FAIL! n/t ProSense Sep 2012 #4
he's once again trying to appeal to tea partiers mnmoderatedem Sep 2012 #5
I keep thinking that he is just playing at being a teabagger to motivate the base, but then he acts pampango Sep 2012 #40
Seems like this asshat's campaign strategy has become Aldo Leopold Sep 2012 #7
Welcome to DU, Aldo! beac Sep 2012 #10
Well put, Aldo. And welcome to DU! classof56 Sep 2012 #16
You summed it up perfectly Aldo rock Sep 2012 #33
Welcome to DU. RagAss Sep 2012 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #36
It won't matter if his "attack does not stand up to simple chronology" justiceischeap Sep 2012 #9
Tomorrow we will hear him express empathy retroactively Generic Brad Sep 2012 #53
Romney to people surrounded by an angry mob: be indignant! Vox Moi Sep 2012 #11
Opportunist of the worst kind: Ineeda Sep 2012 #12
Question Vietnameravet Sep 2012 #14
Answer: No JHB Sep 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #15
!!News Flash!! Willard jumps the shark while simultaneously nuking the 'fridge ! raging_moderate Sep 2012 #17
What a disgrace he is. Whisp Sep 2012 #18
If he put on a red rubber nose and a pair of big floppy shoes... Jeff In Milwaukee Sep 2012 #19
Another pathetic display of unstatesmanlike behavior. StrictlyRockers Sep 2012 #20
Nice job, Willard. You just sealed your fate. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #21
Desperate people make desperate mistakes. kentuck Sep 2012 #22
Any connection between Sheldon Adelson and the anti-Islamic youtube film maker? n/t Pryderi Sep 2012 #26
I have a hard time believing any US presidential candidate would have advisors this stupid. lexw Sep 2012 #27
He is surrounded by idiots. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2012 #28
With Romney, The Idiot, in the middle. nt Cha Sep 2012 #44
Seriously what else would you expect from a rich asshole..... usaf-vet Sep 2012 #29
that. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2012 #31
K & R. n/t FSogol Sep 2012 #30
My pet rock has more empathy, sensitivity, emotion, sincerity, feelings, humanity & common sense judesedit Sep 2012 #37
Can't wait for the next couple polls. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #38
Well, now he can say: Turbineguy Sep 2012 #39
NOT QUALIFIED...dangerously so. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #41
How the hell did he get this far? ProSense Sep 2012 #42
Lazy voters impressed by $1000.00 Italian shoes and a haircut. Ikonoklast Sep 2012 #46
None of this matters, Mitt's campaign already said "fact checkers" are the enemy. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #45
idiotic and disgraceful and wholly dishonest fishwax Sep 2012 #48
With more to come. n/t ProSense Sep 2012 #61
This guy has always been able to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants CrispyQ Sep 2012 #49
That it took THIS episode to make some realize that Romney is TERRIBLE is depressing. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #51
Huff post... Pauldg47 Sep 2012 #54
Krugman: Why The Vileness Matters ProSense Sep 2012 #55
Halperin had the perfect word Inuca Sep 2012 #56
What a disgrace Weird WilLIARd is TheKentuckian Sep 2012 #57
I get a feeling this is the thing that finally doomed mittens. Javaman Sep 2012 #58
It should, but ProSense Sep 2012 #59

Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
13. Not qualified
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:41 AM
Sep 2012

Romney simply doesn't have the qualifications to be a commander-in-chief. He and his cohorts cannot be trusted with the mantle of leadership.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
52. If not . . .
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 08:25 PM
Sep 2012

. . . having his campaign limp along until November, will. It's going to be seven weeks of blame and bitterness.

What makes it particularly funny and interesting is that billionaires put up hundreds of millions to win this election, and Romney just laid an egg on their plans, and will continue to make it worse until November. Those sorts of guys want a return on their investment. If they buy an election, they expect to be given an election. I mean, to them, this is an investment gone extremely bust.

Therefore, it's hard to say who's going even have anything to do with Romney after his career comes to a merciful end in November. Lobbyist is probably not going to be a career choice.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
2. I can't really listen to what he is saying because
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:32 AM
Sep 2012

I am overwhelmed by his smug attitude and the smirk on his face.


Why is he amused?

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. He has that smirk because it all Obama's fault.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:56 AM
Sep 2012

Mitt thinks he has gained some points here. Clueless doesn't begin to cover it.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
23. He looks at the election as a game and he sees this as a win for him
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:31 PM
Sep 2012

He has no real compassion for the people who died and their families. It is the same robot like Romney who sees everything only in terms of the race. Not to mention, he does not want to have the full truth before speaking.

Contrast that to the somber looks and demeanor of both Obama and Clinton.

Your observation, which many will see or at least get subliminally, and the he fact that almost all Republican foreign policy people have not been happy with this, will lose him the moderate Republicans in the voting population.

As a Jew, I am stunned and horrified that the film was made by an Israeli American and funded by right wing Jews. Jewish history includes so many pogroms that were ignited by Passion plays or books like the Council of Elders, which both could be seen as their century's equivalent of this speech. This is despicable.

32. We already had President George W SMIRKY and we don't need another!
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:26 PM
Sep 2012

Romney just wants to play President. That doesn't make him a good candidate!

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
50. I imagine that's the same smirk he would give when....
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 07:50 PM
Sep 2012

he witnessed the looks on people's faces that were getting layed off from companies that Bain was about to part-out and sell for a profit.

A #1 asshole.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
3. He talks about leadership? He can't even organize a press appearance
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:34 AM
Sep 2012

First it's on, then it's off, then it's on again. Great display of leadership and decisiveness!

mnmoderatedem

(3,729 posts)
5. he's once again trying to appeal to tea partiers
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

and making a statement in a typically uninformed tea partierish manner

pampango

(24,692 posts)
40. I keep thinking that he is just playing at being a teabagger to motivate the base, but then he acts
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:39 PM
Sep 2012

like he really is one at the most inappropriate moment.

Most of us believe that he represents the corporate wing of the GOP and is just playing at being a teabagger because he thinks that will help him get elected. And the corporate wing is winking at him figuring they can ignore the base once Mitt is elected.

However this crisis was an opportunity for him to show undecided voters that he is a real statesman and can handle foreign crisis that pop up in any presidents term. He failed miserable by playing to the teabaggers one more time.

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
7. Seems like this asshat's campaign strategy has become
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

reduced to nothing more than just hoping/waiting for any perceived "slip" by Obama and pouncing on it. Total fuck up.

beac

(9,992 posts)
10. Welcome to DU, Aldo!
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:39 AM
Sep 2012


And yes, Rmoney's campaign strategy seems to be based in the debating tactics of a third grade playground.

rock

(13,218 posts)
33. You summed it up perfectly Aldo
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:29 PM
Sep 2012

Welcome, to DU. What took you so long. We've been waiting for you.

Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #7)

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
9. It won't matter if his "attack does not stand up to simple chronology"
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:37 AM
Sep 2012

He and fox and other repubs will claim the chronology is true and that will be the end of that. They'll always believe that President Obama "sympathized" with those that waged the attacks and that will be that. It may matter to some independents but it won't matter to the repub party.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
53. Tomorrow we will hear him express empathy retroactively
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 09:16 PM
Sep 2012

That strategy has worked well for him in the past on a multitude of other issues.

Vox Moi

(546 posts)
11. Romney to people surrounded by an angry mob: be indignant!
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:39 AM
Sep 2012

Never surrender your values to common sense!
Dosen't this sound a bit like 'Bring 'em on'?
This response is perfectly in line with the truculent, abrasive approach to foreign policy that Mitt has displayed with respect to Russia and Israel's desire to attack Iran.
Four Americans dead and Mitt is trying to spin it into a political gain.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
12. Opportunist of the worst kind:
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:40 AM
Sep 2012

grave dancing once removed. He really doesn't care a whit about the victims or the complicated political climate, but boy-oh-boy (gleefully rubbing hands together) he can't wait to condemn the president, and only to advance his campaign. He will never, ever be a leader.

Response to ProSense (Original post)

raging_moderate

(147 posts)
17. !!News Flash!! Willard jumps the shark while simultaneously nuking the 'fridge !
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:03 PM
Sep 2012

I just knew all those years practicing verbal gymnastics and ethical contortionism would pay off in the end.....

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. What a disgrace he is.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:05 PM
Sep 2012

Honestly, I think the only thing he was ever taught was how to count money and nothing else. Nothing.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
19. If he put on a red rubber nose and a pair of big floppy shoes...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

he couldn't have looked any less presidential.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
20. Another pathetic display of unstatesmanlike behavior.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:25 PM
Sep 2012

This guy is not qualified to be Mayor of Provo, let alone President!

lexw

(804 posts)
27. I have a hard time believing any US presidential candidate would have advisors this stupid.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 12:51 PM
Sep 2012

I believe Romney (as a one time CEO) is used to having people listen with awe to his ideas (aka brown-nosing), and as such has a huge ego—which keeps him from listening to anyone else. So all these dumb-a$$ mistakes are his own idea.

usaf-vet

(6,209 posts)
29. Seriously what else would you expect from a rich asshole.....
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

..... that has ALWAYS been able to manipulate his environment by writing a check, hiring PR firms, hiring attorneys, lying, cheating and stealing to get whatever he wants. He is a bully who doesn't like to lose. A bully with a big enough check book to win. He is a sociopath with no compassion.

Hopefully he won't be able to buy our presidency.

judesedit

(4,443 posts)
37. My pet rock has more empathy, sensitivity, emotion, sincerity, feelings, humanity & common sense
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:29 PM
Sep 2012

than war-monger Rmoney. However you want to say it, he's a cold, cold-hearted shell of a man.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
38. Can't wait for the next couple polls.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:33 PM
Sep 2012

Down to the big pile of do-doo on the floor that he'll try and walk away from...but too much is stuck to his shoes. I wonder who'll get stuck with cleaning up the mess he created?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
41. NOT QUALIFIED...dangerously so.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

If this asshole ever got near the White House, the next war we would get into would be the last one.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
42. How the hell did he get this far?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:59 PM
Sep 2012

The signs were there. This asshole was never qualified to be President.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
46. Lazy voters impressed by $1000.00 Italian shoes and a haircut.
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 05:24 PM
Sep 2012

Citizens who are too stupid to realize they vote their own pockets to be picked clean by smrking millionaires who despise them.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
49. This guy has always been able to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 06:31 PM
Sep 2012

without ever being called out on it. He's in uncharted waters & sinking.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
55. Krugman: Why The Vileness Matters
Thu Sep 13, 2012, 08:29 AM
Sep 2012
Why The Vileness Matters

I haven’t weighed in on Romney’s awesomely awful intervention on events in Egypt and Libya; with even Republicans joining in the chorus of shocked disapproval, not much I can add.

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There will probably be some voters moved directly against Romney by this spectacle, and none moved toward him. Yes, there are quite a few Americans who are willing to believe that the man who has been president for three and a half years — and who killed Bin Laden — actually sympathizes with terrorists. But everyone in those fever swamps is already an Obama-hater, and Romney has just made himself look small and hysterical to everyone else.

But the real impact probably comes via the press.

I’ve seen some comparisons between Mitt Romney’s position right now and that of George W. Bush after the Democratic convention in 2000, and by the numbers there is some resemblance. But what really happened in the final months of that election? The answer — not a popular one with journalists, but very obviously true to anyone who lived through it — was that the press took sides. Reporters liked Bush and didn’t like Gore, and as a result they treated Bush with kid gloves while gleefully passing on every smear against his opponent (“Gore says he invented the internet!” No, he never did).

That probably wasn’t going to happen this time in any case. But now Romney has really ensured that everyone in the news media, the GOP propaganda organs aside, is going to view him with distaste and alarm — as well they should.

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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/why-the-vileness-matters/



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