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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChuck Todd opened his show by saying Rmoney's statement...
was crass, tone-deaf and they now wish they could take it back.
Man, this morning's shows (Morning Joe and Chuck Todd) have been intense in their piling on Rmoney. I'm actually shocked.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)of the situation had emerged?
It seems like the timing of their statement - it was prior to the violence(?) - is a real issue here?
I'm just waking up to this, so I'm still trying to get my head around timeline elements involved here.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Rmoney's statement was not only ill-timed, but in his rush to slam Obama he didn't even wait for any facts to come in.
Most everyone is disgusted and agree Rmoney blew it bad.
BeyondGeography
(39,382 posts)No future in standing up for a reckless loser.
fugop
(1,828 posts)Journalists actually doing their job and pointing out lies? Don't wake me if I'm dreaming!
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Especially Chucklehead Toad......Amazing...
GOTV
(3,759 posts)Response to GOTV (Reply #4)
klook This message was self-deleted by its author.
to a Yahoo News story about this.
Predictably, the Romney campaign has gleefully pounced on an opportunity to politicize an attack on the U.S. embassy in Libya at a time when Americans should be united.
Steve Kornacki has a piece on Salon about how disgusting Romney's statement is.
from salon
The actual chronology goes something like this: As anti-American protests inspired by a crude Terry Jones video began gathering steam, the U.S. embassy in Cairo and not the Obama White House put out a statement condemning the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions.
The obvious intent was to cool the passions of the protesters. As Marc Ambinder explained, it was exactly what Americans inside the embassy who are scared for their lives now and worry about revenge later need to have released in their name.
Protests were also building in Libya, and sometime later the U.S. consulate in Benghazi came under siege, with news breaking late Tuesday night that a State Department official had been killed.
more at salon
Rmoney is all about division
his foreign policy will suck and bring more war
but profits for his big supporters
klook
(12,167 posts)followed by bombs dropped on Iran, or maybe Indonesia, or Kenya.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Set aside for a moment, the fact that Romney is a blazing nimrod who is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. Yes, that plays a part in his recent idiotic statement. However, I just heard last night that he was meeting with conservatives who were pissed as hell at him for not attacking Obama more.
OMG. Seriously. It's like they revved up a greyhound with a big ol' hate-inducing speech, then let him out of the gate and then watched him tear up the track and eat the fence.
It's Romney unleashed!
Seriously? Do we really have to deal with this idiot--crapping all over himself for the next two months?
Did you see his fake press conference complete with Presidential blue curtains and a flag that he probably stole from the nearest elementary school classroom? It looked like bad dinner theater.
I am certainly glad that we're all getting to know Romney--and how utterly batshit dumb he is.
klook
(12,167 posts)Great description of Romney as crazed greyhound (or Irish Setter)...perhaps after a ride on top of Reince Priebus's car?
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)....yep, that's what we get treated to now for next couple of months....him crapping all over himself...
Even my 8 yr old watching the news conference on the TV asked me why that man on the TV was pretending to be a President....her ending comment was "he's not very good at it"...
Romney unleashed....another reality show right up there with Real Housewives and Honey Boo Boo...Great....more crap on TV....
goclark
(30,404 posts)...asked me why that man on the TV was pretending to be a President....her ending comment was "he's not very good at it"...
MADem
(135,425 posts)It was clear that he'd rounded them up from this place and that--different manufacturers and poles, quite obviously....! Note the pisspoor placement:
There are two more to the right...!
retread
(3,763 posts)Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)Sheam, Sheam, Sheam.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Obviously the 1% and industrialists have no loyalty to the U.S. After all, like Mitt, they have homes around the world and can just retire to them if this country falls apart, and the rest of us (although unlikely) take to the streets. They've already sent most of our jobs there. It infuriates me, therefore, that the Republicans push their jingoism on us "masses." Blinding loyalty to USA!, regardless of how we "help" (often read EXPLOIT) some of the other nations. This blindness led to 9/11. Great military might can't protect us these days. The right wing determination to see us as "exceptional," rather than cooperative, is leading to our downfall. Those with a broader sense of community and history should not be dismissed as "apologists."
Patiod
(11,816 posts)it doesn't matter if the US succeeds or fails, his money is distributed all over the world, and he can easily live elsewhere.
GOTV
(3,759 posts)Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)Even hacks like Todd and Scarborough are savvy enough to realize that most of what Mitt does and says is indefensible, and that that continued blind Mitt support at this point will harm their reputations. They have both provided him a fair amount of cover, but Mitt is just not giving them anything to work with. This is all making me very happy, I have to say.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...but he makes Bush Junior look like a Rhodes Scholar.
Seriously. Bush Junior was at least *himself*. He was a good ol' boy who was informal and he didn't try convince us all that he was the sharpest guy in the room. He knew he was "the guy that you'd like to have a beer with" and the cowboy dude who liked to clear brush.
Romney is an arrogant ass who thinks that he's the smartest guy in the room who is damn well entitled to the Presidency. He's a total fake who is dumber than a stick. But he pretends to be smart. His daddy's standing, his looks and his arrogance have given him a lot in his life--more than he deserves.
This campaign is spotlighting the fact that there is no there there.
At best, he should be an anchorman in a B market.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Dubya sold his ranch and doesn't clear much brush anymore. His laid back, doofus persona worked in his favor, however. Romney can never be presented in that way. He is obviously so elite and out of touch with normal Americans, that he will invariably put his foot in his mouth anytime he's trying to present himself as a "normal guy." Ann is even worse. She has no clue as to average life and shows it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)at least deep down, and simply presided while DicKKK reigned. Like Popeye, he was what he was - a dolt who believed what he believed regardless of any and all facts to the contrary. Willard is in some ways far more dangerous. He thinks he's a smart guy but he's not. He's just an arrogant asshole who thinks that he can get away with literally anything.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)You have to give him that. Buy a company, loot all their assets, load them up with debt, let them fail, rinse & repeat.
I don't trust him as a real businessperson who builds companies which create good jobs, or as a spokesman for our foreign policy any more than I trusted Junior.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You've summed it up very well, indeed.
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)What a great compliment.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I mean he upsets our allies, like the UK and Russia, with his lack of diplomacy. He can't handle being in a position where you have to know what to say that will not make matters worse.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Which is a truly terrifying thought.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)we've seen the consequences of having a reckless fool representing us in our foreign policy.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)that brings a chill down the spine.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)for positions.
"Who is the absolute worst person to put in this position? Oh yeah, then that's the person for the job!"
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)He'd dickslap Iran the next day if he were pResident!
upChuck Turd and Slow Scarbutt are just trying to gain back a tiny shred of credibility, so they can ambush Obama the next shot they get. Those two are Jack Welch's wonder-pimps.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Few candidates before have had the opportunity to prove themselves so disastrous in terms of diplomacy (but I'm pretty sure Mitt would never massage a female foreign leader's neck..I'll give him that). These Republicans...so unpredictable and funny!
BootinUp
(47,190 posts)getting to where I can't keep track of them all. What an unqualified knee-jerking dick.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Gotta go pretty low to get Toad on your side, and Rmoney did.
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)according to Fox 'News'. Romney and Fox seem to be trying to turn this provocation into another 9/11. But who's helping al-Qaeda this time?
Fortunately, President Obama has scheduled a Rose Garden speech on the attacks in Libya and Egypt for 10:35, an hour after Romney. I expect him to make Romney look really, really, small, without even mentioning his name.
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)for Secretary Clinton's statement, and a dais in Jacksonville on the other, for Mitt Romney's simultaneous statement!
Who's in charge of US foreign policy, and who thinks he is?
malaise
(269,179 posts)by placing an embargo until 12.01am
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)when I heard about the embassy attack I must say I had mixed emotions. I felt relief knowing Obama and Hillary were on the job and then scared that Romney make an "Iran hostage" type of situation out of this...then as the story emerged on the show, I noticed how everyone came down on the Romney campaign in spades! They were calling it yet another stupid statement from the R Campaign. They really blasted it...
reformist2
(9,841 posts)His statement was so off-the-handle and over-the-top, it really is astonishing.
reflection
(6,286 posts)Anything to reach the goal. Consequences be damned. We have an ambassador who is barely cold, strangled to death, and they are high-fiving each other right now.
I have never been so furious as I am today at the recklessness of these hateful religious zealots on both sides, enabled by the radical right-wing in this country.
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)Kind of like Bush and Cheney only even more stupid! Nothing really pure about any of them, but pure evil and greed.
Mitt would have outsourced his own mother, if he could have made a Dollar.
mikeysnot
(4,757 posts)tanyev
(42,619 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,518 posts)given his past experience of him shilling for rethugs later in his show. He has pretty much stuck with the outrage against Rmoney... at least so far.
About time!!! Rmoney's campaign staff made an extraordinary faux pas.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)They were business buddies, have known each other since the 70's. O'Donnell says it's despicable that Netanyahu is inserting himself in the U. S. election and would want to control/dictate our policy.
This is a huge and tragic mess in so many ways this morning. Four Americans died, I'm deeply saddened.
I hope his blunder does the amateur Rmoney in.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Rmoney and friends already have our next false flag operation picked out for us. It's the only thing they're good at. Who in the thinking universe wants Mittens and Bibi running our world?
I also wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a direct tie-in with this Terry Jones character and the 50 Israeli "investors" in that atrocious video. This incident today seems very staged to me, including someone in Egypt and Libya inciting the reaction there. Once again, I don't buy it. The whole thing smells phoney to me -- and very conventient for Rmoney.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)fingerprints of Bolten, Cheney, and other neocons. And that is the scariest part about it.
It also shows that Rmoney is
a) a lapdog of the Cheney Bush crew that led us into Iraq
b) has no world knowledge about the region
c) is incapable of sensing the impact of his actions.
C), in particular is a fact. Looking at how he says, "I like to fire people" fits perfectly with a greedy, out of touch, jerk, whose level level of understanding and empathy rates lower than petrified whale shit at the bottom of the pacific.
7worldtrade
(85 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,518 posts)Hamlette
(15,412 posts)There are a lot of problems with Romney's reaction to the U.S. consulate attacks, but the most straightforward one may be that it burns away time his campaign didn't have. We're now going to spend at least one news cycle -- and probably more -- analyzing and responding to Romney's incendiary statement, and the issue will surely carry through to the Sunday shows this weekend. When you're trailing in a presidential election with eight weeks to go, you can't afford to spend one of those weeks defending a provocative statement that you didn't have to make in the first place, especially when you were already on the defensive on national security.
I think this is what they call a meta argument. Trust Politico. But still, a bit of piling on.
Not surprising what Romney did. When you have advisers like Bolton, what do you expect?
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Are we bored yet?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)He is appealing to 30% of Americans, 1% are as rich as him and the rest are as inept, incompetent, and full of hate.
still_one
(92,409 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)newspeak
(4,847 posts)did reagan make a deal with the iranians to not release AMERICAN prisoners until after the election? did reagan (bush)make a deal with the iranians to launder money/guns for the contras? why it seems that the neocons love to deal with those that are considered "terrorists."
did wolfowitz have an israeli spy in his department? did the * administration send the israeli "art students" and "bogus movers" (attempting to get on a military base) back to israel? Because, after all, they are supposed to be our allies. So, romney is best buds, especially business buds with natenyahou (sp), how special. I wouldn't trust either one of them.
Gee, I wonder how much money they could make further fueling hostilities in the ME.
So, the "artist" who made this cheap, amateurish film, is he a neocon? Just wondering.
What I see, is it's not about the well being of our country, or the well being of the civilians in the ME-it's about playing the global rich man's game-about winning, and making lucrative profits on the backs of everyone. and the "patsies" are those (zealots) who react like pavlov's dog to incitement.
NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)When he wanted to "suspend" his campaign? Romney cannot handle a crisis any better then McCain could. Mittens campaign is so eerily reminiscent of McCain's. And yet, it seems to be run even worse.
Rozlee
(2,529 posts)I just remember McCain saying something about our economy doing great just a couple of weeks before everything went south and then acting confused and helpless when confronted with the reality that it had imploded and even wanting to cancel his debates. He looked like a bumbling buffoon to Obama's cool reassuring persona. But, at least in him, Obama had a somewhat more worthy opponent. Romney is just a foolish, unfeeling, narcissistic idiot who even appears to have traces of sociopathy. And you're right, his campaign is run worse. His press secretary, Andrea Saul, is the daughter of a prominent contributor who can't think on her feet and too many of his other close advisors seem to be DNC plants.
Cynicus Emeritus
(172 posts)An Iran War fought and paid for by working and middle class Americans (not the 1 percent is the end game. Romney will give in to it, Obama will not.
Until Americans on the right and left wake up to the fact that the events in the world don't just happen, they are orchestrated to create an outcome that is typically detrimental to the 99%. This movie was produced purposely to create political turmoil for Obama and those who oppose taking us into another war.
harun
(11,348 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)some would pay with their lives or limbs
let us not forget this
Cynicus Emeritus
(172 posts)Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)Don't worry, NPR will "balance" Romney's lie so that it comes out in his favor. They'll have on their ususal 2-3 Republicans for one milquetoast Brookings Prostitution "Democrat" or NPR reporter. Oh, one of them might be an 'independent' from the Cato Prostitution. If it wasn't for NPR Cato would hardly ever get on air.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I am working at home this morning and very busy, but I could of swore that I saw
that asshole trying to look Presidential in some sort of fake news conference. Yeah.
He was standing in front of a flag and everything! God what a dipshit!
I heard him say that he doesn't regret what he said. He says he will never regret saying
that American should never apologize for....blah, blah, pander, pander, whatever, yadda,yadda.
That's what I heard anyway.
So, before did they say that the regretted the comments?
GEEZ! Has their ever been a more f'd up political campaign in the history of political campaigns?
It's a carousel of confusion and contradictions!
Can anyone explain what the hell is going on?
Romney's religion doesn't allow him to drink, do drugs or ingest caffeine. It's too bad because sometimes I sense that the man needs a beer or a Vicodin smoothie--something, ANYTHING--to prevent him from behaving like a buffoon. Something ain't right, folks! He's like a hyper-hypo in a Brooks Brothers suit. If he didn't busy himself with orchestrating fake press conferences, he'd probably be pulling a jungle gym down the street behind himself (SNL fans will understand).
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I just can't get that image out of ny head, but it's so perfect!
OLDMDDEM
(1,577 posts)Rmoney is playing with people's lives here. On the Ed show you will see the vultures on the graph he shows once in a while. That is Rmoney. He waits to attack and then doesn't know what in the hell he is saying. He tried to make this into a political statement and failed just as he will in November.
AllyCat
(16,226 posts)It is astonishing to me the stuff this guy says the media lets slide. I'm glad to see this isn't one of them.
My heart goes out to the victims and their families and the many more victims to come in this horrible situation.
bayareaboy
(793 posts)John Bolton and Terrance Tom's from Finland James have in common. They got some hair on their face just like the sixties, but didn't expand their mind.
cash__whatiwant
(396 posts)ecstatic
(32,732 posts)Because hate is a strong emotion that only ends up hurting the "hater" in the long run... but that man (and his party) is so disgusting, it's getting really hard.
I turned to FOX to see what they were saying and was surprised to see a FAUX anchor ask a good question towards a surrogate who was saying that the State dept. should not have tweeted the message about free speech: "Do you think maybe they tweeted it because the compound was under attack and they were willing to say anything to save lives?"
treestar
(82,383 posts)I had thought it possible it was limitless.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)It is beyond disgusting to try to capitalize on the deaths of American citizens.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)This may turn Obama's post convention surge into a full scale landslide.
What it shows more than anything is that this campaign is entering desperation mode.
The smart money has Obama winning, but if he can win by a bunch it may well help down ticket.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)I'm not a big Chuck Todd fan but OK whatever dude. At least you aren't totally blinded by your preconceived notion of "fairness".