Interesting discussion on MSNBC about Medicare For All

[berni_mccoy]

One person made the point that employer based healthcare is going to look really inappropriate when unemployment is between 20-50% as the banks are predicting.

Seems like the time for Medicare for All is now.

[BComplex]

1. It's been a good idea for a long friggin' time.

That's why the debates were important.

[Wounded Bear]

10. I don't think it was ever a good idea...

it's more entrapment for working folks. If your medins is based on your employer, it makes it harder to change employers. And nobody wants to quit and have a gap in their coverage. And quitting to start your own business? Takes a hearty soul to risk that.

[BComplex]

18. You don't think Medicare for all is a good idea?

I'm confused by your post.

[tblue37]

20. No. That post is saying it never was smart to tie health insurance to employment. nt

[BComplex]

21. Ok.

Thanks

[Demsrule86]

24. The debates are over.

[JCMach1]

2. Now is the time

[sheshe2]

3. At least they can get on ACA tomorrow !

[Wounded Bear]

11. Not if Trump won't let the exchanges open...

[crickets]

16. trump has no control over that, and no business pretending he does.

Healthcare.gov

You can enroll in or change plans if you have certain life changes, or qualify for Medicaid or CHIP.

Special Enrollment Period (SEP)

A time outside the yearly Open Enrollment Period when you can sign up for health insurance. You qualify for a Special Enrollment Period if you’ve had certain life events, including losing health coverage, moving, getting married, having a baby, or adopting a child.

Depending on your Special Enrollment Period type, you may have 60 days before or 60 days following the event to enroll in a plan. If you miss your Special Enrollment Period window, you may have to wait until the next Open Enrollment Period to apply.

Losing your job (and therefore your prior coverage) is considered a qualifying life event. trump is pretending he has any say in this and he has none. It's a way of lying to people so they don't know that the ACA is there for them. It's despicable.

[sheshe2]

26. Anyone that has lost their job is gualified immediately.

No waiting period. They qualify. I did.

[S.E. TN Liberal]

4. If ever there was proof of the need...

...to provide all Americans with health insurance, now is clearly the time.
When the recovery for the current economic disaster begins it would be an advantage for small and start-up businesses to be able to hire employees who already have health insurance. Business costs will be reduced and employees can get quicker medical care which helps reduce time lost from work.

[crickets]

6. Agreed. You make great points. nt

[berni_mccoy]

22. Yes.

[Under The Radar]

5. No premiums coming in, double the claims, no bailout money left

Health insurers could be facing a crisis too

[Sherman A1]

7. The time for Medicare for All was about

5 decades ago.

[monmouth4]

8. I saw a post on DU about VP Biden and how he is against Medicare for All. This is not good and

don't understand his thinking on this.

[Hoyt]

9. He's against it because too many people don't want mandatory MFA without a chance to try it out.

A PO — with enhanced subsidies — has a better chance of passing.

[monmouth4]

12. Thank you..n/t

[marble falls]

14. His position has gotten a bit more nuanced ...

2020 Candidate Joe Biden Backs Medicare Public Option: 'You All Should Have a Choice'

https://www.newsweek.com/2020-candidate-joe-biden-backs-medicare-all-policy-you-all-should-have-choice-1409332

[marble falls]

13. You need to catch up. Try looking at the Biden campaign site ...

https://joebiden.com/healthcare/

https://www.newsweek.com/2020-candidate-joe-biden-backs-medicare-all-policy-you-all-should-have-choice-1409332

[msongs]

15. medicare for those who want it. opens the door and gives people a choice nt

[crickets]

17. +1

[Wellstone ruled]

19. Have been trying to help our oldest Son with some workable

insurance program. He is a Walton Family Slave and in that,the rules get butt ugly. Because of a per existing health issue,his Employer Health Insurance premiums are totally off the wall. Yes insurance is available,the Deductibles are ridiculous. And as well found out this week,because of a processing error,he now has to wait for the next Company enrollment period.

Checked with his State Sponsored Insurance Program will not let him join since he is employed by a Employer who has more than 500 employees.

So his trip to the ER is now a mega bill hanging over his head.

The way this Pandemic is playing out,we are on track for a single payer program sooner than latter. By the time most laid off Workers realize it,they would only qualify some POS COBRA program that takes sometimes months before you are covered.

[Demsrule86]

23. This is why I can't take Sanders and his supporters seriously...there is no way to pass Medicare for

all. It is not happening...how about some solutions that can save lives now. Trump won't open the ACA...get real. He is not going to sign a M4A bill which would not make it through Congress anyway.

What we have to do is bully him into some stopgap method until we take control and are able to add a public option and fix the ACA which will lead to universal healthcare...there is no other way that will work. And after Italy...I am even less inclined to want M4A. I can't imagine what would happen if Trump had complete control over every American's healthcare...God forbid.

[sheshe2]

27. Open enrollment.

No need for open enrollment for ACA if you are suddenly unemployed. No waiting period, you can apply. I did.

However, if I remember correctly there is an income cap.

[Hoyt]

29. Exactly. The unemployed can sign up for ACA. Add some subsidies and that'll

get us to Election.

[Demsrule86]

30. I know I checked into it...hubs and I are eligible we can also go back to the GM insurance we get

for hubs retirement...we have it at least through May with his current company...shut down because GM is shut down. He now works for a parts manufacturer.

[shanti]

25. That aspect

has always been the biggest reason for a MFA push. No jobs = no health coverage DOES NOT WORK and will unfortunately be revealed for all to see.

[sheshe2]

28. Bingo.

[MoonlitKnight]

31. Those ACA plans vary widely by state

And many suck.