A Poll That Will Send Shock Waves Thru the White House

[RandySF]

Although Trump received an early approval bounce in the polls — mostly due to the “rally effect” that occurs in the early stages of a national crisis — that bounce is fading quickly.

Here are some striking new numbers from the Navigator tracking poll:

Trump’s approval rate for handling the coronavirus down 12 points in the last week, from +10 (52% to 42%) to -2 (47% to 49%).

A majority of Americans — 51% — say Trump isn’t doing enough right now, up 10 points (from 41%) since last week.

Americans increasingly see Trump as dishonest about the pandemic: 12-point swing in honesty since early last week, from +1 (45% to 44%) to -11 (42% to 54%).

61% of Americans — including a third of Republicans — describe Trump’s response to coronavirus as “unprepared.”

But here’s the finding that should send shock waves through the White House: 40% of those who voted for Trump in 2016 now say he didn’t take coronavirus seriously enough early on, up a whopping 17 points in the last week.

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/04/this-poll-will-send-shock-waves-thru-the-white-house/

[tblue37]

1. Many who are going to die haven't yet, and the more who die, the more likely any

random person will know and care about someone who dies--and that includes Trump voters.

[olegramps]

21. I guess your can fool all the people sometimes, some all time, but not all, all the time.

[groundloop]

36. Hmmmm....... seems like I've heard that somewhere before.

Anyway, it's a small bit of relief that people are beginning to see this idiot for what he is.

[lagomorph777]

40. Yes, if borne out by other polls, our chance of national survival will increase.

[Chemisse]

76. All along, when we were scratching our heads wondering what would it take?

A worldwide deadly pandemic with all the terror and death and economic catastrophe that goes with it. Apparently that's what it would take.

[DBoon]

50. and you can't fool the grim reaper

[CaptYossarian]

35. That should also be true for victims of our gun pandemic.

Trump was unprepared because he couldn't hit the virus with a golf club.

He looked for it in the same places Dubya looked for bin Laden. "Nope. Not in the 17th hole either. Gotta continue on."

[Demovictory9]

2. in October, the Dems need to have the "It's a Hoax", 'I'm not responsible" Trump videos running

non stop

[PatrickforO]

27. I think Sun Tzu called this phenomenon 'losing the mandate of heaven'

[sop]

3. Once people turn on you, it's impossible to regain their support.

[lindysalsagal]

26. That's human nature and that doesn't change. Even for magats.

Add to that, magats were magats to begin with because they have resentful tendencies. So when you lose one of them, you're sool.

[SWBTATTReg]

4. Unfortunately it took people dying to get these people to change their minds about the ...

incompetent twit in the WH. Blood is on rump's hands and his daily conference calls (worthless) simply reaffirms this on a daily basis, so obviously idiot can't figure out that perhaps his daily conference calls are a joke?

Every repub senator has blood on their hands, for allowing this monster to stay in office.

[customerserviceguy]

5. We'll see

if the stimulus money gets received by most people before the death toll hits 100K.

[rockfordfile]

12. More Americans are at wanting trump prosecuted

[BComplex]

34. That's why they're now saying it might take 5 months to get their checks. In September,

a whole helluvalot of back pay for unemployment is going to hit people's bank accounts, and trump thinks he's going to look like the messiah.

That's a dangerous game he's playing with people's lives.

[customerserviceguy]

45. With physical checks, that may be true

My guess is that the vast majority of Americans will have their payments before the end of April. Social Security requires direct deposit of benefit checks, that will get the money out efficiently and quickly to many millions of people. And most ordinary citizen-workers get refunds, it's usually the well-off who delay filing and paying as much as is legally possible. The vast majority of them use direct deposit of a refund, and they will have their stimulus money pretty quickly.

Plus, there will be ways for people not in the above categories to give information to the Federal government to get their stimulus money fairly quickly.

I'd be surprised if even ten percent of stimulus payments go out by a mailed check.

[BComplex]

48. Not talking about stimulus money. Talking about the fubar unemployment

checks for the 10 million unemployed as of the last couple of weeks. The unemployment agencies are so maxxed out that nobody can file in some states. When they do file, the states are saying their applications may take time to get approved, and then the checks will take time to go out. Florida is saying about 5 months.

[customerserviceguy]

49. Sorry

I thought you were responding to my post, which only was about stimulus money.

Trump will surely blame the states for any problems with UC payments, and in some cases, it may well be warranted. There are states still using antiquated systems that were first put into place in the 1980's.

[BComplex]

54. True that. And we just found out Florida made it fubar on purpose to keep people

from getting unemployment. They created a system that was difficult to use, based on the regular unemployment rates. But they never counted on millions (!) of people filing at once, so now their purposefully messed up process is about to get them all voted out of office.

[customerserviceguy]

55. Florida

really figures out the way to do everything wrong. I'm glad I persuaded my lady to not have us retire there, she already had a condo there when I met her in 2005.

[BComplex]

56. Lots and lots of republicans down there.

I had to do some contract work all around florida a few years ago, and the KKK is very active in the rural areas.

[Aquaria]

57. Problem with the stimulus money is that

It's coming now. Not closer to the election.

Plenty of time for "What have you done for me lately?" Americans to forget about the stimulus, especially when it's long gone and the bills are still piled up around them.

[Totally Tunsie]

6. My fear is that anyone dumb enough to vote for Chump the first time

won't have the brain capacity to remember all he has, or has not, done when it comes time to cast their vote in November.

[ProfessorGAC]

7. It Only Takes 60,000...

...people to come to their senses. That's 0.05% of the people who voted!

[Totally Tunsie]

8. That sounds nice, but you have to remember we'll be dealing with a slightly different populace,

come November. Many of the 2016 voters - both D and R - have spawn who have come of voting age within the last 3.5 years, so that 60,000 is a flexible figure indeed. The great equalizer could be COVID-19 and Chump's MAGAts hanging on every word by their leader, which could reduce their numbers significantly.

As Chump is so fond of saying, "The numbers could go up; they could go down. We'll have to wait and see."

[ProfessorGAC]

14. Not Arguing That

At all.
But, the demographic change every 4 years is not that dissimilar. Changed? Yes. But, not night & day.
I was predicting nothing. But the numbers say that 60,000 votes in 2016 turn a victory into a landslide loss in the EC.

[Girard442]

10. That's 2016 election math.

2020 election math will be way different, but no one can predict how, exactly.

[groundloop]

39. And a large part of it depends on how many voters the repubs can suppress.

Voter purges, voting locations moved, inadequate numbers of voting machines, disinformation..... repubs are masters at playing those nasty games. We need a turnout so massive and overwhelming that their dirty tricks can't overcome our superior numbers.

[klook]

69. This is key. Believe no polls, especially the optimistic ones.

We have to win by a “corruption margin” of a few percent, in addition to the Electoral College margin. Trump and McConnell could definitely win Round 2 if we don’t work our asses off to elect Democrats up and down the board.

[moose65]

51. Not really

Trump won by about 80,000 votes, not 60,000. And it’s not about getting those 80,000 to change their minds - it’s about getting 80,000 more of our voters to the polls. Or swinging more states our way. We are never going to win over the true believers.

[not_the_one]

78. Not to pick nits here, nor to be confrontational... BUT

WE won by almost 3,000,000 votes.

WE lost the EC by 60 to 70K. BECAUSE of gerrymandering, cheating, voter suppression, you name it, they did it. They CAN NOT win without cheating.

The turd has stated that he could lose by 5,000,000 and he could still win the EC. (apparently they already have the plans in place to do just that...)

We have GOT to negate all avenues of tyranny by the minority.

(as people collectively tsk, tsk, say it can't be done, constitutional convention blah blah blah...)

If something is WRONG, and our democracy IS NOT FUNCTIONING, we must do whatever it takes to correct it.

rant/off

Prof!

[uponit7771]

9. Just wait till we get to 10,000 dead a week. We're already at 7000 a week now.

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. Here's the link to today's Navigator tracking poll

since politicalwire requires you to sign up for the OP link: https://navigatorresearch.org/public-opinion-on-coronavirus-navigator-daily-6/

One more result:

rump Rating on Coronavirus Handling at -2
Consistent with the last week of updates, Americans are nearly evenly divided on how Trump is handling the coronavirus pandemic.

Intensity of disapproval continued to increase in today’s update (26% strongly approve; 35% strongly disapprove).
Among independents, Trump is now underwater by 10 points (37% approve/47% disapprove), a net shift of 27 points since our March 30th update (53% approve/36% disapprove).

So he's really losing 'independents'. That puts a huge hole in his election prospects in battleground states.

[GusBob]

20. Thank you

[ooky]

13. Guess they weren't impressed with Mr. Pillow.

And, people kind of get that you don't send PPE desperately needed by health care workers to distributors who will demand the highest price they can get. It just seems so wrong, no matter how your son-in-law spins it.

[lagomorph777]

41. Government-sponsored profiteering.

Utterly apalling.

[Hotler]

74. The National stockpile was bought with tax payer dollars and then given away free to

the businesses to sell back to us at a insane profit. People need to go to prison for that shit.

[Chainfire]

15. Don't go counting chickens

The hatching will occur in late Summer when this begins to subside and Trump is on his victory laps, claiming a win over the virus. The big die off will be in the rear view mirror, and the economy will be beginning to recover. By November he will be a great hero in some minds.

The numbers today should be about 30% approval at the very best. We are still in deep shit with the chance of Trump being reelected. When he said that he could kill a quarter of a million people on Fifth Avenue. (my quote is not exact) and still not lose voters, he was correct.

[bluescribbler]

22. If this begins to subside

not when. We still don't know. There could be a resurgence in October.

[Dream Girl]

23. Wrong. Nearly all all being impacted. Standing in line to go to Target. Empty shelves.

making your own DIY masks, fighting for hand sanitizer, and toilet paper and then Mee-maw and/or Pop-Pop dies,this will bring bring it home in indelible ways. Add to that, massive unemployment, shuttered business and, declining 401ks. This is no temporary blip. The economic impact will extend to 2023, at best. Was has happened is so consequential, there will no be no victory laps. Trump is toast, it doubt this he will even be on the ballot in November.

BTW - the quote is that is could shoot someone on First avenue, not that it woud "kill a quarter of a million people..." I don't even know where you are getting that from...and yu just making stuff up?

[Chainfire]

46. You miss my point

Yes, all of these bad things are going to happen, but the Conservatives do not hold Trump responsible.

You are dead wrong, Even as we type, Trump is making a daily "victory lap." After the die off subsides he will claim total victory. If you don't understand that, then you don't understand Trump.

I usually don't try to explain a joke, but I will humor you on the 1/4 million thing, it is called poetic license. I know exactly what Trump's quote was, and yes, I made the number up, but I expected that most of the readers would get it.

[Dream Girl]

53. We will see. A depression is coming. Massive ememployment. Those daily victory laps

Will inextricably link him to wat is happening He’d be better off without them

[Chainfire]

59. It remains to be seen if Trump

will be held responsible. He has great the great power of the bully pulpit. This crisis will be presented as a natural disaster that Trump worked so smartly and tirelessly to mitigate. God's will and all of that.... Of course, we will always hold him responsible, but we are not the only ones who will be writing the story.

All of this is a fun game of what ifs but November will be here quicker than we think. If we lay back and assume Trump will be defeated on his record, we may be opening a big box of heartache for Christmas. Each of us has to devote their time, energy and our money to defeat Trump. Overconfidence is our enemy. Remember where being too sure got us with Hillary? I haven't gotten over my wife waking me on election night to tell me Hillary had conceded; it still hurts.

This may be our last chance.

[MyMission]

63. Saw this impressive ad yesterday.

It's supposed to air on faux news.

Article was in the hill.
April 03, 2020 - 09:04 AM EDT
Kristol-backed group releases ad showing GOP voters blasting Trump over coronavirus response

[brush]

31. Nah, the economy won't come back for years and the deaths will still be happening...

in October. Now there's an October non-surprise for you. 30% unemployment projected.

No incumbent who presides over an unemployment rate higher than that of the Great Depression's 25% stands a chance of getting elected, plus the deaths too.

He's toast.

[BComplex]

37. It was already proven that the russians hacked the florida voting machines in 2016.

Since then, trump has purposely let the russians have free rein, by blocking any election protections we have had. There's not even a quorum in the Federal Election Commission, because he refused to appoint new members, so the FEC can't do anything. THAT IS INTENTIONAL!

[brush]

42. Go with trump and the Russians pulling off a squeaker again. Not me. There are...

too many buyers remorse voters out there, along with the majority who voted for Clinton last time.

They'll for sure try to cheat again but IMO it won't be close enough this time.

[BComplex]

43. From your keyboard to God's ears.

Let us hope that it works.

[edbermac]

16. Polls don't mean shit.

VOTES DO!

[gibraltar72]

17. Personally never believed he had a bump. Just let this simmer.

Even the assholes that supported him are gonna be touched. Keep hammering away at the fact that he knew in January.

[japple]

18. We all need to start hammering the GOP as well, and connecting them to tRUMP.

They have yet to start distancing themselves from him. They are still in lock step with him. They all need to be lumped into that big huge basket of deplorables that Hillary talked about.

[BComplex]

38. Exactly, japple. We need to tie ALL republican elected officials to trump before the election.

They are all so far up his bum they can see his tonsils.

[lagomorph777]

44. Hammer on Moscow Mitch for playing games with the relief bills,

delaying them and trying to pack them with corporate welfare for his cronies.

[Chainfire]

47. Of course

Trump is the Republican Party, and the Republican Party is Trump.

All Republicans are culpable because they put Trump in office and then, when given a chance, they kept him in office. All of the failures can be reasonably assigned to all of the Republicans. That includes your neighbor across the street with a Trump sign in his yard.

[DFW]

19. I have news for those who found the last line encouraging.

"But here’s the finding that should send shock waves through the White House: 40% of those who voted for Trump in 2016 now say he didn’t take coronavirus seriously enough early on, up a whopping 17 points in the last week."

On the other hand, of those 40%, my bet is that 100% of them will vote for Trump again.

[grantcart]

24. It's not a question of getting them to change their vote

If we can get just 15% of the 40% who voted for him but don't like his coronavirus response to stay home then we move from a convincing win to a landslide.

Second point is he isn't adding any non committed voters.

[Dream Girl]

25. Maybe,but it's early days. Red states and rural folks have yet to feel anything close full impact.

[DFW]

67. That is true, however

Today's Republicans are so brainwashed, they would vote Republican with their dying breath after having felt the impact of a Republican firing squad.

[Duppers]

61. I agree.

They're religiously brainwashed by Fux.

[Cartoonist]

28. He's still at 100% racist approval

That's what got him elected last time.

[Laelth]

77. I am sure Rush Limbaugh will be telling his audience to vote for Trump. n/t

-Laelth

[Anon-C]

29. Expect a little bump when Donald rides his bulldozer to "Get COVID-19 done!"

[Mr. Ected]

30. Those numbers will continue to escalate as the death toll mounts

But when the time comes to elect a new president, the same voters will choose Trump over Hunter Biden's father because, well, teh stoopid.

[PatrickforO]

32. You know, it just irks me no end how people don't see right through

the treasonous, incompetent, sociopathic mass-killer that is Trump.

[Mr.Bill]

33. What's funny is

his polling would be higher if he would stay away from those daily press conferences. And the very mental sickness he has insures that he can't stay away from them.

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. Good...You know the ebola thing could have killed a whole lot more than it did, people took

the BRILLIANT Obama administration for granted, even some of us did. There were other outbreaks during his time I think that we hardly heard about.

Anyone who supports a commander in chief who punishes Navy Commanders for protecting their own sailors, who PARDONS war criminals and who ATTACKS gold star families is not an American, not a patriot and an enemy of human race.

Rump does it because he is a broken narcissist who cant operate any other way...most of his supporters cant claim that excuse.

[Beartracks]

58. He joked about killing someone on 5th Avenue and not losing support. But...

... killing hundreds of thousands of Americans all over the country? Maybe even Republicans could be persuaded that's going too far.

==========

[Jakes Progress]

60. We always seem to like these numbers

but they make me sick.

How can even 5% of people think that man should be president instead of in jail. I am disheartened that 40 something percent of the people in our country are that stupid, mean, and/or greedy.

It is sad.

[mdbl]

62. who are the morons that approve of him?

Are there that many misogynistic racists out there? As far as the poles go, Putin will fix the election for him so he doesn't give a crap about poles.

[OnlinePoker]

64. A month ago, Rasmussen Reports had his approval at 52 to 47 for +5%

The latest poll is 44 to 53 for -9%. When there's that much of a swing from a right wing organization like RR, you know he's in trouble.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

[Permanut]

65. No one could have seen this pandemic coming..

Just like no one could have seen 9/11 coming.

[Cha]

66. Freaking Lying Murderer should be in

the gutter by now

[DIVINEprividence]

68. The states that took aggressive action will weather the storm

the ones that did not are going to get hit really hard. Trump’s war on truth and basic facts has had catastrophic consequences.

[Botany]

70. Just who are the people that still support Trump, think he was prepared, and is going good job?

The death toll in America alone will be staggering.


******

Trump blew it! We could have stopped it (C-19) dead in China in 2019.


Trump administration ended pandemic early-warning program to detect coronaviruses

Source: Los Angeles Times

Two months before the novel coronavirus is thought to have begun its deadly advance in Wuhan, China, the Trump administration ended a $200-million pandemic early-warning program aimed at training scientists in China and other countries to detect and respond to such a threat.

The project, launched by the U.S. Agency for International Development in 2009, identified 1,200 different viruses that had the potential to erupt into pandemics, including more than 160 novel coronaviruses. The initiative, called PREDICT, also trained and supported staff in 60 foreign laboratories — including the Wuhan lab that identified SARS-CoV-2, the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19.

Field work ceased when the funding ran out in September, and organizations that worked on the PREDICT program laid off dozens of scientists and analysts, said Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance, a key player in the program.



Read more: https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-02/coronavirus-trump-pandemic-program-viruses-detection


thanx to DUer SouthernCal_Dem for posting this.

[Orrex]

71. The fact that his disapproval rate is not 100% means that we're doomed

Far too many idiot racist fuckheads still worship that asshole, and nothing will sway them.

Guarantee that even when their household family members are dying, they'll still say things like "thank God Trump is president, at least."

Because they're a cult of idiot racist fuckheads.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

72. Thank you for the encouraging data.

At least it’s a step in the correct direction.

I’ll refrain from expressing my disgust that it’s not even better.

I saw a lecture by Neil Degrasse Tyson a few years ago in which he complained about a MUCH smaller percentage of scientists who were religious, so it can go overboard sometimes. (He at least expressed some satisfaction that it was low, but he was also displeased it wasn’t 0%.)

I’ve met too many people who believe what they WANT to believe, and they somehow can’t find MEANING in just seeking the truth while being uncertain about many things.

[skip fox]

73. Thank God or whatever . . .

[SayItLoud]

75. "didn't take the virus seriously enough" here's what a couple of tRUMP cultists said to me:

"No one suspected how bad it was....he didn't either". Translation: We give him a pass on this. I am not getting my hopes up on anything regarding tRUMP and his cult. Nothing, NOTHING will change their view of him as the greatest gift ever. They will gladly accept him as their DICKtator. If we do not vote him out America will have a DICKtator. America will not look like North Korean or other dictatorships per se but by changing the laws, and putting his accomplices in place America will look like a democracy but will certainly NOT be one.

[AdamGG]

79. The polling shouold be 95% saying that he was unprepared

There's still a shocking number of uninformed morons in this country.

[paleotn]

80. And we've barely scratched the full death toll yet.

What until everyone is within 4 degrees of separation or less from someone who became critically ill or died. My prediction, and I'm sticking to it, is he'll plumb the depths of Nixon's final approval numbers by mid-summer. May even break them. He's doomed. Most Republicans are doomed. It's a mathematical certainty. Their names are all over this and they can't escape it.

Remember, you heard it here first.