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Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Faux pas
(14,681 posts)thought this for a while now, red states and rich friends.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)must have been playing it cool like that's even possible for someone with no filter
NCDem47
(2,249 posts)You know when you see those movies where you figure out the twist early on and there isn't much element of suprise? Same here.
sop
(10,193 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)Than the 3x tons of stuff sent to Florida, and the pittance sent to NYCity.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)unblock
(52,253 posts)Plenty of posts on du suggesting that for several days....
dchill
(38,504 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)That's why they led the way with Stay-at-home orders.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,005 posts)LSFL
(1,109 posts)The red states cannot survive without blue state support.
It's also why they lost the civil war.
The industrial base and population is too small to self sustain for long.
Even Florida is heavily dependent on the north for tourism and agricultural outlets.
robbob
(3,531 posts)And THAT is all he cares about, at this point.
Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin return to blue state roots. They are not "red states".
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He has harmed all of those states. Even in Florida he has a problem, there are 1.3 million former felons who can now vote, even if ably 10% of them choose to do so, he has a 130,000 wildcard that should mostly go against him.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)There are red states and blue states, and then there are swing states.
You really think Trump is mishandling this so he can lose all of those swing states and lose the election, just so he can win the red states that he is going to win anyway?
DU is beginning to rival FR with ridiculous and patently absurd conspiracy theories.
Bettie
(16,110 posts)that there won't be an election.
He is probably wrong about that, but it is very likely that he believes that.
More likely is that he's just a flaming orange moron who insists on micromanaging the things that make him feel like he's important.
What is definite is that I have never in my life truly hated anyone until he entered office and began this long parade of fuckery. Now, I know what that it feels like to actually wish harm on another human being. I don't like it, but then, he is possibly the worst example of our race.
PurgedVoter
(2,218 posts)That would in a more normal time be a description for a story with a character like Trump. Know this, there is no conspiracy that is too ridiculous and patently absurd for Trump to go with.
His advisers would also fit with this. His children, in-laws, friends and followers also ready to jump on board the ridiculous and patently absurd train. Considering how the Republicans in office have circled their wagons, they too are ready to go with a ridiculous and patently absurd conspiracy. Listen to Fox News for five minutes. Ridiculous and patently absurd.
It is worth being careful and watching for some glimmer of reason and evil planning with logic. But expecting it from Trump would be, ridiculous and patently absurd.
The original post would be crazy in normal times. My bet would be the OP is right.
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)where the governor or state officials ( Senators ) fawn over him.. not just say "well, the President is working with our local FEMA to get supplies to us... blah, blah, blah"... but the ones who say" The President id doing a great job and we are getting everything and more, and this is the best response EVER to a crisis that no one could predict!"
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)that explicitly prevents people from filling claims, is going to hurt republicans at every level. That scheme worked when only a few hundred thousand were applying, but with millions in the state now unemployed, not so much. DeSantis will likely try to overcome that to save his ass, but with the main electronic system configured by Scott to harm unemployed workers, hus only option is to start accepting paper applications, a long abandoned system that he would have to ramp up from scratch to handle millions of filers.
tblue37
(65,403 posts)SharonAnn
(13,776 posts)Swing states? They might not be so gullible.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)And if true, by the time he releases 'our' stockpile of equipment it will already be too late.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)BComplex
(8,053 posts)He's going to tell us to look forward, not backward, and trump will get a pass.
Cha
(297,311 posts)Biden would do if we're Lucky enough to get him Elected.
I'm not "pushing" that. I'm just stating a fact based on 40 years of watching Joe Biden. He'll never go after the trump regime. Mark my words.
And the only way he won't get elected is if the russians hack all the machines, or if trump successfully calls off the election.
Cha
(297,311 posts)this is exponentially different than any thing that's happened in the last 40 years.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)Also it ground swell could develop from the rank and file for retribution. I will agree that I believe that Obama should have launched extensive investigation of the Bush administration for a number of reasons. First their lies that took us to war and their deceit once they had committed our troops to the disaster that we are still paying for.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I've thought it was quite obvious by now.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)he's letting people in blue states die, he and Jared are working on a grift.
it's unbelievable, but true. if it was a book it would be a dystopian futuristic sci-fi tale, if it was a movie it would be a farce.
erronis
(15,303 posts)show.
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)Red State vs Blue State stuff again? Sounds like something I read by a well known Doctor....back when I was five. Suess..I think his name was.
There really aren't any red states or blue states.
babylonsister
(171,070 posts)red and blue states. NY=blue (for the most part), and dolt45 doesn't give a whit, is just going through the motions.
SC/AL are red. Wait til their curve is heading up, see what he does.
Edit to add this: good examples/note the difference https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-gaslighting-andrew-cuomo-105327637.html
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)Or on what he doesn't do.
There are plenty of good people in every single state in this country. Alabama and South Carolina included.
There are a lot of bad people in every state too (even in New York and California...gasp!)
This 'red state' , 'blue state' stuff is bullshit.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)and punish the ones that didn't. That's his modus operandi.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)for you-know-who in advance. It will have been deserved.
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)Good luck to you non-believers wherever you ̶l̶i̶v̶e̶ lived!
lettucebe
(2,336 posts)but that's just me.
I have a strong feeling when more people start to die in red states, they'll notice something is wrong with this president. He's so unconcerned about what is happening it's beyond frightening
erronis
(15,303 posts)They'll stick to their guns and always deny any responsibility for allowing this cretin to destroy the country.
May they R.I.P. (Rot In Peace)
ashredux
(2,606 posts)Garion_55
(1,915 posts)For when the shit starts getting really bad they can tap into that stockpile and send a bunch of supplies to their own houses mansion bunkers private islands whatever.
I can picture Trump with a private jet fueled and ready to go somewhere if he needs to pack it up and go in a hurry
IronLionZion
(45,453 posts)it won't. Many red states have gotten it harder than they think because they took too long to go on lockdown. Blue states did it early. It's running rampant through Florida, Louisiana, and Arkansas. Several rural red states still don't have lockdowns.
I just read an Atlantic article saying the South is more vulnerable than they believe due to high cholesterol and heart disease and too many uninsured. The South and red states have people in worse health to begin with, putting many of them at higher risk if they also catch COVID.
The Coronaviruss Unique Threat to the South
More young people in the South seem to be dying from COVID-19. Why?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/coronavirus-unique-threat-south-young-people/609241/
PaulRevere08
(449 posts)Warpy
(111,274 posts)To him, all that stuff is inventory, to be used to leverage business deals. He doesn't understand that a strategic stockpile was paid for by taxpayers and is to be distributed according to need in time of crisis. To him, that just doesn't compute. He has no clue about the function of the commons, which this stuff is. He knows only privately held commodities to be bid on.
It's OUR STUFF, and his mindset prevents him from realizing it.
I just hope Democrats stop keeping their powder dry for once and fire away. He's killing people because he can't shake that rigid mindset. This needs to put to rest forever the notion that government should be run like a business.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Warpy
(111,274 posts)Let's hope dawn breaks over Marblehead as this continues.
procon
(15,805 posts)just the sort of evil plan Trump would enjoy. He's already sending scarce medical equipment to Florida, while NY goes begging and patients are dying. Trump is not only delivers everything Florida asked for, but generously gifted them with extra goodies... Whose your Daddy now?
Absolute Kelvin
(46 posts)What else would one expect from this sorry excuse for a primate?
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)No doubt screwing over ny and cal are high on the other evil stuff but the money rolling in for the distribution of our medical supplies is king.
He might ship some moldy old stuff to so called allies but hell never willingly give up the grift. No one is getting that fed supply without paying.
This will get very ugly when enough of the family and friends of the dead realize they died so trump and kushner could make a profit.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,719 posts)So he could have "Saved the south" and not have many people alive but the Democrats down here.
JPK
(651 posts)I think tRump is going to declare marshal law and try to stop the election.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Alwaysna
(574 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)have already depleted them. There are no other reasonable explanations.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Hadn't occurred to me.
ananda
(28,866 posts)I think they also want to hoard them for profiteering
and extortion.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Squinch
(50,955 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Divide and conquer.
Even the concept that an El Presidente would withhold necessities or favor states is counter to our nation's unity and strength. This is the kind of Dear Leader that you could and would expect that from, however. The results are what are of interest since he test markets ideas to see how they fly on both sides.
I think we do know that everything that Trump does is about expanding, holding and maintaining power over this country, no matter what it takes. No matter what.
intrepidity
(7,307 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)but it wont work
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Trump is selling those supplies and keeping the money for himself.
The red states will vote for Trump no matter how badly he screws them over. But the thing is, I believe Trumps advisors have notified him that the 2020 electoral map will look very much like the 2008 one (which means he will get stomped like one of the grapes on his sons wine farm) and hes going to spend the rest of his term embezzling from the government just as hard as he can.
The red states will be proud to pay Trump for the supplies they already paid for with their taxes. It will show they are not beholden to Big Government.
If US states wont pay Trump what he wants for our supplies, no problem: he will simply sell that materiel to the highest foreign bidder.
My recommendation to the government: the second the election is called for Biden, confiscate his passport. The bastard will flee the country sometime between the election and Bidens inauguration if he gets the chance.
oasis
(49,389 posts)holding the guilty parties to account in 2021.
wnylib
(21,487 posts)Yep and then sell them, thru a front company, to the highest bidder.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)Foreign money bags.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Ad Infinitum
(74 posts)Quote: R A Heinlein
" never appeal to a man's "better nature" he may not have one.
Invoking his self interest gives you more leverage."
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)like Florida to say that what he is doing is not ok. Maybe states that he will favor, like Arizona and Georgia follow suit.
He has been very brutal toward Lousiana, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Because those states had the temerity to elect or reelect democratic governors, even after he brought road-show rallies to them. So, he has it out for those states and he just can't help himself. He has, inexplicably hurt Ohio, where republicans there did everything that he wanted.
kairos12
(12,862 posts)OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)where they should be, their stockpile will be a drop in the ocean of what is required.
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Aquaria
(1,076 posts)That's been obvious for weeks now.
live love laugh
(13,118 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,202 posts)klook
(12,157 posts)Wish Id been proven wrong.