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tman

(983 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:09 PM Apr 2020

When will the Obama administration start defending itself, if ever?

You can only stay above the fray for so long, and I get it..

But here's an inconvenient fact - Trumps lies work, and at a rare time when trump is weak and on the defensive, an aggressive pushback against his egregious lies is needed more than ever, if democrats actually want to win the election.

Any guesses when we will see it?

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When will the Obama administration start defending itself, if ever? (Original Post) tman Apr 2020 OP
Why do they need to? gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #1
Because we're in a war for truth, and but for trumps incompetence... tman Apr 2020 #3
Overall..I understand the feelings... FarPoint Apr 2020 #8
No need to defend themselves Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2020 #2
It's pointless for Obama or anyone to respond to Trump. degage Apr 2020 #4
I posited this same thought awhile back on DU NCDem47 Apr 2020 #5
No need to defend compentence.... Sukee Apr 2020 #6
Obama respects the history and tradition of not interfering with presidents after leaving office. LonePirate Apr 2020 #7
Yep, here come the "Why doesn't Obama do something!11" posts HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #9
Yup Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #11
Empty tin cans make the most noise. denbot Apr 2020 #10
The media are the ones who should defend themselves LakeArenal Apr 2020 #12
We already know the truth. Very few relatively small things I have questions about ... marble falls Apr 2020 #13
I vacillate between fight back and what's the use BeyondGeography Apr 2020 #14
Thank you. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #20
Why don't we insist the media report the truth? Why don't "we the people" speak up? Hekate Apr 2020 #15
Never...you want a show.. stillcool Apr 2020 #16
Let Biden deal with it during the election campaign. SharonAnn Apr 2020 #17
I agree. NCDem47 Apr 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #18
I think we will see it front and center when Biden and Trump debate Seasider Apr 2020 #21

tman

(983 posts)
3. Because we're in a war for truth, and but for trumps incompetence...
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:14 PM
Apr 2020

we're losing that war.

The public soon forgets.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
8. Overall..I understand the feelings...
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:24 PM
Apr 2020

Reactions/ defending our history could be satisfying...Yet, this actually is a tRump tactical bait game he does to take the failure focus and exposure of his lies away from him...

 

degage

(103 posts)
4. It's pointless for Obama or anyone to respond to Trump.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:18 PM
Apr 2020

People who believe Trump, who has been in office three years, should be allowed to blame the prior administration are not people who are going to be swayed by anything anyone says. People who know better, don't need to be told Trump is a liar and incompetent. They already know.

If Obama or others start coming out and making statements, that will play into Trump's hand. It will cause more coverage of the lies, and it will present the opportunity for the GOP to scream "they" are "politicizing" the pandemic.

Let the lies die in the dark. Trump's lies work with his base and the people who want to hate the black guy, all minorities, and immigrants. No rebuttal will change their minds.

NCDem47

(2,249 posts)
5. I posited this same thought awhile back on DU
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:21 PM
Apr 2020

And the general concensus of those who replied was "Let it go." Anyone from Obama admin (including Obama himself) who comes out to combat Trump's lies will just give oxygen to the nonsense. Its a loose-loose-loose situation. Nothing anyone can say will please all and words will be twisted to divert from what action needs to be done just to survive in the moment.

I hate it too.

Sukee

(29 posts)
6. No need to defend compentence....
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:21 PM
Apr 2020

Without saying a word, those who are politically aware sees the contrast between the two administrations. Those who skim the surface of politics can see the difference. Those who know nothing at all about anything.....will vote Trump. Plain and simple, we retain the educated and progressive.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
7. Obama respects the history and tradition of not interfering with presidents after leaving office.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Apr 2020

He is trying to respect the office even if the office is being disrespected by its current occupant.

I have no doubt that he, Clinton (both of them), Carter, Gore and Kerry would help Biden in any and every way imaginable to help repair the country if Biden is elected in November.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
9. Yep, here come the "Why doesn't Obama do something!11" posts
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:27 PM
Apr 2020

Took a few weeks longer than I thought, but here we are.

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
12. The media are the ones who should defend themselves
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Apr 2020

They give air time to such bullshit. Knowing full well that lies are lies and truth is truth.

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
13. We already know the truth. Very few relatively small things I have questions about ...
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

regarding a great American President like Barack Obama. (Like allowing the ban on large capacity magazines to expire. Understanding it made little difference to gun humpers either way)

About The Orange Funk - another story.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
14. I vacillate between fight back and what's the use
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:43 PM
Apr 2020

But what has long been missing from the Democratic playbook is a sustained critique of what the Republican Party has become and how the anti-government culture they have been nurturing for 40 years is destroying our country.

It’s happening again. We are strong in identifying COVID-19 pandemic-related problems and processes that Trump has either missed or mangled. We are failing to brand the political pandemic that is the Republican Party.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
15. Why don't we insist the media report the truth? Why don't "we the people" speak up?
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 12:56 PM
Apr 2020

There's more of us than there are of the Obamas. Once slander starts, one man (Obama) or woman (H. Clinton) is hardly a match for FOX. You can just hear it now : "Gore/Lieberman? Ewww, Sore Loserman, whine whine." Why didn't we continually speak up for Gore?

And I'm not talking about just kvetching on a discussion board, although we at DU have our own work cut out for us just trying to counter the incoming, don't we?

NCDem47

(2,249 posts)
19. I agree.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 01:25 PM
Apr 2020

I think that's when facts will be laid out. And it will be done in a way that's not a one-on-one rebuttal to every Trump lie. Trump is a prick. He'll lay every trap in the book to pull Biden into a tit-for-tat.

Response to tman (Original post)

Seasider

(169 posts)
21. I think we will see it front and center when Biden and Trump debate
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 02:00 PM
Apr 2020

We'll probably also see it to a certain extent on the campaign trail (if they ever allow crowd gatherings again) and at the convention. Biden, with all his flaws and tendency for gaffes is probably the best candidate to defend the Obama legacy. He was Obama's right-hand man and helped shape a lot of his policies during that time.

People often forget that Biden played a big role in the 2012 campaign after Obama's struggled in his 1st debate, he ran circles around Paul Ryan calling his talking points "malarky" and mounting a staunch defense of Obama's 1st term. I'm hoping we see that Biden in the debates this year.

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