Just got a flyer. Two CV cases in my apt complex...

[Wounded Bear]

Said they are quarantined, but they didn't say who it was.

I'm in a senior living complex.

Getting close to home.

[WhiskeyWulf]

1. I hope you stay well. nt

[cyndensco]

2. Scary.....Stay Safe!

[LAS14]

3. Can you have food brought to your door so you can stay in your room? nt

[Wounded Bear]

5. Never looked into that...nt

[efhmc]

8. Lots of places are even offering free delivery.

At least for a while.

[Indykatie]

12. Uber is Offering Free Delivery - I've Used it Twice This Week

GrubHub is another good delivery services. Many of the restaurants that work with them offer free delivery if the order is over $10.

[wnylib]

26. Probably not a solution. Many delivery

people will not go inside a building. Also, you increase, not decrease, the chance of infection by using delivery. How do you know the delivery person us not infected? Or were the surfaces touched by that person before reaching your apt clean of the virus? What about the place delivered before your delivery? Was everyone there virus free?

In an apt complex, there are other needs besides food. Garbage removal. Doing laundry at a laundromat or a laundry room in the apt building. Picking up mail at a cluster of mailboxes.

Best to use a paper towel soaked in rubbing alcohol or hydrogen peroxide to wipe all surfaces before touching them and washing hands afterward. Also, go out of the apt no more than necessary.

[appalachiablue]

35. We ordered from a regular local restaurant last week (not a chain)

and were pleased to see that the nice delivery guy who came to the door was fully masked, gloved and staying 6' distance. Good deal, we'll keep using them for sure.

[wnylib]

37. Good that he takes precautions.

How often does he change the gloves?

I used to shop at a supermarket that had a carry out department. You could get pizza, rotissarie cickens, subs, etc. I often saw employees answer the phone while wearing gloves, make a sub with the same gloves on, ring up the sub on the register, receive money and make change, without removing the gloves. Then they would take a pizza from the oven, slice it, and box it.

I asked an emoyee why they didn't change gloves after handling the phone, register, and money. She said she tried to, but the boss complained that they used up gloves too fast.

I stopped buying their carryout.

[appalachiablue]

38. Well yeah that can happen, but I'm not ready to roll up

in a ball, hide and die from paranoia and fear.

[wnylib]

39. I guess your perspective

depends on the degree of your vulnerability. I know that I will probably die if I get covid, due to age and health. So, to me, the antithesis to rolling up in a ball and dying, which is what covid would do to me, is to be very cautious.

It's all relative, apparently.

[Wounded Bear]

42. I actually think I could survive it...

I've always had a fairly strong immune system, though it has gotten weaker as I age. Now I get annual flu shots and have had the pneumonia shots, so I'm not reckless. But overall, I'm pretty healthy for my age, especially my lungs. I quit smoking in the Carter administration, so no problem there.

But I'm no BS artist about this, I'm not out dancing with the devil.

[wnylib]

47. I have multiple allergies which

include the flu and pneumonia shots, so I am not able to get them. I am also allergic to antibiotics (sulfa and penecillin) for treating secondary infections. Asthma and 2 autoimmune disorders make me vulnerable to the most serious cases of covid 19. That would be true, even if I were younger, but I am 70.

I am more mobile and active than many people my age. But a cold or flu virus can bring me down with severe chest congestion, bronchitis, and multiple asthma attacks. My reaction to covid would be even worse.

[Wounded Bear]

48. I hear you. Take care...

[dewsgirl]

4. Hang in there, stay safe.

[UpInArms]

6. Stay safe, my friend

[Squinch]

7. Are you gloving and masking? Soaping up anything that comes into your home?

Please do.

Gloves can be gardening gloves. I'm using those ones with the rubber palm and fingers. I wash them with soap and water, just as if I am washing my hands.

Masks can be two layers of a tightly woven cotton with 2 rubber bands. There are a lot of instructions on the net for how to make them, and some have been on here.

Please take these precautions. I imagine it will spread quickly in a senior complex.

[In_The_Wind]

9. All very good advice, Squinch.

[ProfessorGAC]

31. An Added Suggestion For Outside The Home

I keep rubber gloves, like for dishwashing, in the car. I wear them to go in anywhere.
When I get back to the car, I use a household disinfecting cleaner.
Spray it on my left hand and then mimic washing hands. All I have to do is grab the bottle again with gloves still wet to take care of the bottle.
Then, gloves off and put them on a box in the back seat to dry.
Car smells a little bleachy, but not enough to be annoying.
Now, I can use the same gloves over & over and still know I'm doing what I can to kill the bugs.
Safe, fast, easy & effective.
At the concentration of hypochlorite in this product, viruses are killed 99.9% in 10 seconds or less. 99% in 3.
Since they're still wet when I lay them out, they probably have active chlorine in place for 3 minutes. Should do the trick!

[Wounded Bear]

43. I have a nearly full box of 'examination' gloves...

They're kind of light, but they keep my hands from contacting anything. I use them when I go out. Pre-CV, I used them for things like Ben-Gay and other creme applications that I don't want on my hands. They come 100 to the box, so I should have 40 or more wearings left. Hopefully enough to survive the surge buying assholes who are hoarding.

Same with TP. I usually have a small supply on hand. I don't have a lot of storage in my apt, but I like to buy a large pack before I need it, so I had a full unopened pack before the SIP order that I still haven't dug into. Things that don't spoil, I buy extra since I went to one payday a month.

Still feeling OK so far. Have some mild congestion right now. Worrisome, but no heavy coughing-and not dry, either- so maybe just a spring cold. I've always been susceptible to those when the weather swings hot and cold like spring and fall. No chest pains or heavy fatigue yet.

[Squinch]

45. Keep us posted. My friends and I here in NY have talked about

how now every symptom is frightening. Spring allergies are kind of terrifying.

Let us know how you get on.

[Wounded Bear]

46. Never been plagued by allergies...

at least not persistent ones. Sure, I get a sneeze when I hit a cloud of dust, but the pollen and stuff never really bothered me.

[lark]

10. Oh wow, please take extra care.

Hope you have plenty of supplies at hand. Good wishes and healthy thoughts coming your way!

[bluescribbler]

11. Be safe.

Keep us informed if you can.

[malaise]

13. Stay safe

Do not use the laundry room - hand wash for now

[appalachiablue]

14. There's good tips here if you need it and pls. stay safe

[lefthandedskyhook]

15. You should be tested

So should we all

[KY_EnviroGuy]

16. Is your HVAC common to the complex or isolated to you apt?

Not trying to frighten you but if your circulating air is common to other parts of the complex, it could endanger you. This virus is known to have the potential to become an aerosol in the air and can stay suspended for quite some time, somewhat like smoke but invisible. This has become a concern in public places such as grocery stores.

How long it can remain viable (able to infect) in air is unknown and depends on many variables. It's possible this affects the spread rate on ships for example, depending on one's proximity to the source.

Best of luck and stay safe as best you can. Question everything that might endanger you.


KY........

[Chicagogrl1]

24. This is how

they say it spread so fast in Wuhan. Through common hvac in buildings. If any of you have common hvac, consider turning it off & put something over the vents.

[Wounded Bear]

28. No. There is no common circulation and no AC in the rooms ...

there are in the hallways, though. I assume (there's that word) that the intake is outdoors, because it does provide positive pressure in the hallways, enough to keep the spring loaded doors partially open so on hot days you can crack a window and get some cooler air in. Haven't had occasion to need that and seldom do except in the hottest days of summer, which here in Western WA are usually few.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

40. That's good news, Wounded Bear.

One less thing to worry about!

Although raised up without AC, I'm more accustomed to climates where we almost must have AC in summer. The days are gone where most all homes had high ceilings and shade trees all around.

I despise these invisible enemies, especially as I've grown to be old. I live in my home with my son, so we have two sets of hands to watch out for, although he's doing all the shopping and appears to be very careful.

Best of luck and please keep us posted on how your outbreak progresses and is being controlled. You may well can teach us all a lesson with what's working for your residence.

KY........

[appalachiablue]

36. That's important. A couple people we know in apts. have their

own thermostat and filter unit that maintenance services. That means a separate HVAC unit but I don't know for sure.

[Wounded Bear]

44. Yeah, that doesn't necessarily follow...

they may just have a separate fan that blows the common chilled air to their unit. I'd be careful about using it. AC filters probably won't touch this shit.

I have a separate thermostat that controls baseboard heater units in my LR and BD areas. No AC at all, actually, other than what I described above.

[wryter2000]

17. Darn

Stay in your apartment as much as you can. Wear gloves and a mask if you go out. Wash everything that comes in with soapy water. Stay safe

[CaptYossarian]

18. Be safe, Bear.

Careful with hand rails, elevator buttons and door knobs.

I'd really worry about common areas, like the mailboxes and laundry too.

[totodeinhere]

19. I understand the HIPPA laws about medical privacy.

But under extreme circumstances like these I think that we should have the right to know who is infected so we can know whom to stay away from. It could be a matter of life and death and that should outweigh the HIPPA laws.

I hope you can stay safe.

[marble falls]

20. Stay safe, brother! Could be worse - someone could be deployed in Afghanistan living in a tent!

[Kimber432]

21. "Nextdoor" App ?

I have the "Nextdoor" app on my phone. If it's in your area, it might be helpful. People are offering to run errands, bring food, even set up food (toys, etc...) in local pop-up pantries. Also, if you have a senior citizens center, check with them as they may have meals on wheels delivery available. There are quite a few avenues out there and I hope you stay safe and healthy.

[wnylib]

32. Wouldn't it be safer to get a grocery

delivery of one or two weeks' worth? Daily deliveries increase the number of contacts and therefore, the chances of infection.

[xxqqqzme]

22. I'm in a 55+

Complex too.
Management hung masks from all our front door handles yesterday.

As Kimber432 mentioned Check with your Council on Aging or your senior center. Every Tuesday our Senior center is offering 5 frozen meals for pick up since they had to suspend the lunch program

[CaptainTruth]

23. Stay safe!!!

[wnylib]

25. This is the kind of news that

I dread getting, but expect that it will happen eventually. I am also in a senior complex. I am wary when I take out trash or use the common laundry room. Wipe everything down and scrub after returning to my apt.

I heard a child's voice in the hall and opened my door to see the neighbor at the end of the hall letting her daughter and granddaughter in for a visit. I asked why they would visit against all advice and risk bringing a child into the building. They have not been back since.

[gademocrat7]

27. Take care and

keep washing your hands.

[Wounded Bear]

29. Thanks for all the support/helpful hints...

doing my best. Finally scored a thermometer from my brother, so I can check that periodically now.

I'm due for a couple of appointments at the VA which I've put off. My normal checkup with my PCP will be by phone Wednesday. Not going there for a while. I've been satisfied with my care so far, but now is just not the time for routine stuff. The appt I'm putting off is with dermatology, so it can wait. Don't have any obvious skin problems right now.

So far so good.

[janterry]

30. Keep your window open if you can

circulating air will (might) help.

[ooky]

33. Sometimes we need a little luck too.

Do what you can to remain safe and I wish you the very best of luck.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

34. Do not touch that flyer with an ungloved hand!

(just saying)

Stay safe.

[Skittles]

41. everyone needs to just assume it's everywhere

because it is

[Wounded Bear]

49. Status update...hanging in there...

Monkey rigged up a mask of sorts using an old athletic headband with some elasticity and attached a double layers of terry cloth material under it. Worked OK for a couple of days, but then my brother came through again. He's a handyman with an extensive shop where he does a lot of woodwork projects. And because he didn't stop smoking until his 60's he's kind of protective of his lungs. He had a few N95 masks he uses there laying around and he brought me one of those.

Tried it out today, got it fitting pretty good. Should last me a while, it's pretty sturdy and I'm not going out much, of course.

Feeling a little chest congestion, not affecting my breathing much and I haven't been feverish yet, so crossing my fingers, staying warm, drinking tons of water and dropping aspirin every few hours along with some cough drops. This is not unusual for me this time of year when the temps start yoyoing from near freezing to shirtsleeve weather on consecutive days.

So far, so good.