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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 01:32 AM Apr 2020

Trump stupid/scary comment of the day: "I think a lot of people cheat with mail-in voting," Trump sa

"I think a lot of people cheat with mail-in voting," Trump said. “It shouldn’t be mail-in voting," "You go to a booth and you proudly display yourself. You don’t send it in the mail where people can pick up — all sorts of bad things can happen"




https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/491126-trump-says-he-opposes-mail-in-voting-for-november
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Trump stupid/scary comment of the day: "I think a lot of people cheat with mail-in voting," Trump sa (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2020 OP
He will not leave peacefully. cilla4progress Apr 2020 #1
Wouldn't want a paper trail now would we, Donnie... Blue Owl Apr 2020 #2
Oh, I was steaming over that one. As if there aren't laws about postal tampering. He's ancianita Apr 2020 #3
Yes, part of te plan to delegitimize the upcoming election. eom IllinoisBirdWatcher Apr 2020 #6
Been thinking that for a long time. In fact, I think that was the plan if he'd lost C Moon Apr 2020 #16
yes, he's crazy but sly - there is a method to his madness Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #7
Lately it seems that way, but I don't think it's HIS method. Someone else is "directing" him. ancianita Apr 2020 #11
+1, Trump's an idiot someone else is pulling the strings they are evil uponit7771 Apr 2020 #21
He is their fall guy dansolo Apr 2020 #33
I heard that whole diatribe, Bayard Apr 2020 #4
he has a plan Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #8
No shit he has a plan DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #17
Thankfully it's not up to him. SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #5
Projecting again, donie death. niyad Apr 2020 #9
"You don't send it in the mail where people can pick up -" dchill Apr 2020 #10
Hell no DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #18
And use Republican state officials to count the votes. nt procon Apr 2020 #32
Hello. Hi it is me here. 16 yrs of doing voter protection "stuff." Botany Apr 2020 #12
I'm not a voter protection person DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #52
He can't prove a single cheat from a mail in ballot Under The Radar Apr 2020 #13
Mail in ballots - Republicans tried cheating... mwooldri Apr 2020 #14
How, dumbass? Jamastiene Apr 2020 #15
He has already clearly stated his position on voting in general DFW Apr 2020 #19
Hi there DFW. You feeling ok still? 7wo7rees Apr 2020 #22
We're still hoping to make it to Cape Cod DFW Apr 2020 #23
Exactly..... it's the getting there..... 7wo7rees Apr 2020 #26
We're trying, thanks! DFW Apr 2020 #30
Any flights through Bangor? Manchester? RockCreek Apr 2020 #40
We don't have many options DFW Apr 2020 #46
That is a great story! RockCreek Apr 2020 #48
The guy's name was Erwin Kreuz DFW Apr 2020 #50
A Georgia GOP House speaker said almost the same thing this week underpants Apr 2020 #34
Didn't some people ask about Trump canceling the election? uponit7771 Apr 2020 #20
At this point.... DFW Apr 2020 #24
+1, yep Trump's a moron whoever is pulling his strings needs to be stopped uponit7771 Apr 2020 #31
"Taxation without representation is tyranny." safeinOhio Apr 2020 #25
John Barron, John Miller, Carolin Gallego and David Dennison will register at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave muriel_volestrangler Apr 2020 #27
or he HAS already done it himself Captain Zero Apr 2020 #45
Let's face it. If you put this through the Republican Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #28
trump/gop knows they LOSE bigtime if we all did mail-in ballots beachbumbob Apr 2020 #29
Shut the fuck up, Donnie. GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #35
Heh SammyWinstonJack Apr 2020 #38
Could he be projecting yet again? Methinks he is. BSdetect Apr 2020 #36
When isn't he projecting? GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #43
I bet he fantasizes Chainfire Apr 2020 #37
He's setting us up....you know he is. spanone Apr 2020 #39
Millions and millions of illegals voting. Many, many are saying that. Mc Mike Apr 2020 #41
Says the guy who voted by mail in the FL primary mcar Apr 2020 #42
He always accuses others RockCreek Apr 2020 #44
He just insulted the state of Oregon Blecht Apr 2020 #47
the postal service is mandated by the constitution, will he try to kill it anyway? 0rganism Apr 2020 #49
Our County Clerk The Wizard Apr 2020 #51

ancianita

(36,075 posts)
3. Oh, I was steaming over that one. As if there aren't laws about postal tampering. He's
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 01:37 AM
Apr 2020

projecting all the snakey ways he could subvert every kind of voting. That's probably why he said that.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
16. Been thinking that for a long time. In fact, I think that was the plan if he'd lost
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 03:53 AM
Apr 2020

the electorate in 2016. If Hillary was elected, I think they had violence and GOP protests planned.

ancianita

(36,075 posts)
11. Lately it seems that way, but I don't think it's HIS method. Someone else is "directing" him.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 01:52 AM
Apr 2020

He's not clever enough to just plan a pandemic and economic collapse that can only hurt him. He knows damn well he looks like a punk and a criminal.

All he's got are half-assed politicos around him. Maybe Big Fossil. Maybe Putin. Maybe the Kochs and Mercers. Maybe corporate PR people.

No statesmen, diplomats. But lots of dollars to crank out. Maybe some dollars even returning from tax havens. He thinks like mafia.

So if it's to turn this country corporate and fascist, I could see that, maybe.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
33. He is their fall guy
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:10 AM
Apr 2020

They get to implement all of their horrible policies, and their hope is that Trump will get all of the blame. Clearly that is Mitch McConnell's plan.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
4. I heard that whole diatribe,
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 01:39 AM
Apr 2020

And thought--he gets more insane every day. People are cheating when they vote by mail. Everyone should be required to have voter cards with their photos, and to vote in person. Even in the middle of a pandemic.

You have to wonder again, if he's setting up some kind of bogus election fraud claim for Nov.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
17. No shit he has a plan
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:00 AM
Apr 2020

He is foreshadowing the republicons reason to invalidate the election and declare himself President. He will claim Democrat election fraud for the reason and justification. Barr will back him up, as will the Republican Senate, then the Republican Supreme Court will rubber stamp it.

All these statements should serve as a harbinger of what is coming......

SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
5. Thankfully it's not up to him.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 01:39 AM
Apr 2020

Elections are conducted at the state level.

Dems need to press for mail-in voting at the state level.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
12. Hello. Hi it is me here. 16 yrs of doing voter protection "stuff."
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 02:01 AM
Apr 2020

You can not cheat with mail in voting because not unless somebody else is voting for
you but you can only cast 1 ballot. We have computers. Republicans are admitting that
they have been cheating on election day with their electronic voting machines.

DENVERPOPS

(8,835 posts)
52. I'm not a voter protection person
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:53 PM
Apr 2020

But I can think of many ways to screw with the current mail in voting system......

Our entire election/voting system needs an overhaul.....

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
14. Mail in ballots - Republicans tried cheating...
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 02:25 AM
Apr 2020

... and they got caught. NC 9th District - in the 2018 election Republican operatives committed electoral fraud by collecting absentee ballots and if the ballot vote was for a Democrat the absentee ballot would not be mailed in.

As long as there aren't organized ballot collection efforts like this then mail in ballots can work nicely.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_North_Carolina%27s_9th_congressional_district_election

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
15. How, dumbass?
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 02:43 AM
Apr 2020

Do they write the answers on their hand or a crip sheet? Do they "phone a friend?" How the fuck can you cheat on a ballot, when you are voting? For fuck safe, I did not know New York could spawn someone dumber than the rest of the dumbest Republicans in NC, but Trump rivals some of these dumbasses.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
19. He has already clearly stated his position on voting in general
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:07 AM
Apr 2020

From The Washington Post:

In an interview on “Fox & Friends,” Trump referenced proposals from Democrats in the coronavirus stimulus negotiations that would have vastly increased funding for absentee and vote-by-mail options. The final package included $400 million for the effort, which was far less than what Democrats had sought.

“The things they had in there were crazy,” Trump said. “They had things — levels of voting that, if you ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again."
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Which is, ironically enough, just about the most accurate statement he has made in his whole presidency.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
22. Hi there DFW. You feeling ok still?
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:30 AM
Apr 2020

And yes, Trump has zero intention of not staying in place behind "The Resolute Desk in the Oval Office..."

Reference to Friday's daily "Apprentice from the White House", when he was going on about he was not going to be wearing a mask..........

I think you are very lucky to be where you are rather than in "Dumbfuckistan"! I know how much you love your summer vacation here, but I'm thinking maybe not this year. Not safe at all......

DFW

(54,405 posts)
23. We're still hoping to make it to Cape Cod
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:35 AM
Apr 2020

It's not looking good, but not looking impossible yet.

It's the getting there in a plane and the nights in Boston upon arrival and prior to departure that concern us. Once we're there, in our semi-isolated house on Cape Cod Bay, we will be in relative safety.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
26. Exactly..... it's the getting there.....
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:53 AM
Apr 2020

Any friends that can sail the 2 of you over, you know, the way Greta sailed from New York to Europe....

I hope you are able to make it, but the way things seem to be going right now I honestly just don't see it.

Went out this afternoon to pick up scrips for my mom. Stunned at how packed stores are and how many people are taking no precautions. This is in North Dallas, suburb of which is just north of LBJ. We've been thanking God every day we have Clay Jenkins in charge in Dallas Co.
Stay well and safe. I know you are. Much love to you and yours, The 7wo7rees family

DFW

(54,405 posts)
30. We're trying, thanks!
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 05:28 AM
Apr 2020

I have my own theory as to why we're still OK. I have thought for weeks that most everybody here in Central Europe has been exposed to the virus, including us. We have not been out much, so we figure we are probably asymptomatic, and since we have been close to self-quarantined for 3 weeks, our infectious period has probably passed.

Of course, we can't KNOW any of this because no one here can get tested unless you're famous, or at death's door. I saw that about Jenkins and Hobby Lobby. Here, it's not like we have truly evil people in charge, no TX Republicans, but incompetence and an unwillingness to admit that they are overwhelmed often produce pretty much the same effect.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
40. Any flights through Bangor? Manchester?
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 AM
Apr 2020

I think there were ones to Providence from Germany briefly, but not anymore.
And if you do fly into Boston, perhaps hire a car service to take you directly to the Cape when you land.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
46. We don't have many options
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 11:25 AM
Apr 2020

Boston is pretty much it. Either, or. We need a car on the Cape, so we usually rent one at Logan and drive out. It's about 3 hours to get to our part of Truro.

Bangor used to be an airport of convenience for charters from Germany to the West Coast. They would land in Bangor, refuel, and have their passengers go through immigration and customs there. Then a new, U.S. based crew would get on and take the passengers on to the West Coast. About 40 years ago, there was one famous incident where one of those passengers was a very unworldly Bavarian, who wasn't paying attention to the announcements on the plane. The Germany-to-Bangor crew wished them a nice time in San Francisco. Not having paid attention to the rest of the announcements about the formalities on the ground and subsequent re-boarding, that's where he thought he was.

He didn't speak a word of English, so he got off the plane, went through immigration, collected his bag, went through customs--and right out the door! He caught a cab, used enough sign language to tell the driver he wanted a hotel. and spent three days wandering around Bangor, thinking he was in a suburb of San Francisco.

After three days, he decided he wanted to see downtown, with the Golden Gate Bridge, etc., so he got in another taxi, and said, "San Francisco." The driver tried to make him understand that he was not about to drive the guy 3000 miles to San Francisco, but he didn't understand a word, and kept asking to be taken to San Francisco.

The driver finally found a restaurant that served German food, and someone inside that understood some German. The cops were called, and finally someone located the rest of the charter group in San Francisco, who were indeed wondering how one of their passengers had vanished into thin air during the flight from Bangor to California three days before. The story caused such a sensation at the time, that the city of San Francisco sent him a ticket from Bangor to San Francisco, and he got a tour of the city by the mayor (presumably with a translator). After the trip was done, the guy decided he actually liked Bangor better (go figure), and for the trip home, they made him wear a big sign around his neck saying "not to be let out of the plane until arrival in Frankfurt am Main."

DFW

(54,405 posts)
50. The guy's name was Erwin Kreuz
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:31 PM
Apr 2020

I think he's still alive, in his 90s by now. The Bangor incident happened in the 1970s.

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
25. "Taxation without representation is tyranny."
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:39 AM
Apr 2020

Was what this country was founded on. The idea goes back to the 18th century.
I'm sure many republicans would be more than willing to trade their right to vote to escape paying any local, state or federal taxes.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
27. John Barron, John Miller, Carolin Gallego and David Dennison will register at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:55 AM
Apr 2020

It's a sign of the times that there is a Wikipedia page for known pseudonyms of the president of the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudonyms_of_Donald_Trump

Rule #1: if Trump accuses other people of nefarious deeds, that means he's already thought about how he could do it himself.

Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
28. Let's face it. If you put this through the Republican
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 05:16 AM
Apr 2020

Projection grinder it means Republicans have cheated before with mail in ballots so he doesn’t trust that the Democrats won’t do the same.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
35. Shut the fuck up, Donnie.
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 07:49 AM
Apr 2020

Please. Shut the fuck up. Shut all the way the fuck up until you reach the top of Shut Fuck Mountain where there are no more fuck ups to shut.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
43. When isn't he projecting?
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 10:08 AM
Apr 2020

When you want to know what Republicans are up to, just listen to what they accuse others of doing. Fat Bastard has it perfected. Not surprising, since that's all he does.

Chainfire

(17,549 posts)
37. I bet he fantasizes
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 08:37 AM
Apr 2020

that if only the great dying had begun in October, he could have delayed the elections for a year, or two, or ten.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
47. He just insulted the state of Oregon
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

I wish I could change the channel -- I don't like this orange baboon of an insult comic.

0rganism

(23,957 posts)
49. the postal service is mandated by the constitution, will he try to kill it anyway?
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 04:27 PM
Apr 2020

"that's a very nice post office you have there, shame if something were to happen to it"

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
51. Our County Clerk
Sat Apr 4, 2020, 05:42 PM
Apr 2020

has mail in ballot request forms on the County web site. I have it down loaded and printed. I'll fill it out and mail it in Monday.

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