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oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
4. Yes
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 10:37 PM
Apr 2020

I've said many times over the past 20 years that I'm glad I won't be around to see the worst of it and I feel sorry for the children being born into this. When Gore was cheated out of his victory in 2000, that was the last chance for the long-time survival of the planet.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
16. Agreed. I thought he should have been at the top of the ticket in 1992.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 11:06 PM
Apr 2020

But I thought maybe he'll be a good influence on Clinton and he'll become president in 2000. Instead we got dumya.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
5. Indeed.
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 10:42 PM
Apr 2020

Folks are in big time denial, especially those still having babies.

😭 My heart aches for the next generation.

wiggs

(7,814 posts)
9. I hope people realize now that the same dangerous rhetoric and false memes used
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 10:50 PM
Apr 2020

for CV has been used for years re global warming

I don't know how they have any credibility with anyone on any topic.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
10. Wasn't there a theory that this virus was a natural response to global warming?
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 10:52 PM
Apr 2020

I remember reading this somewhere.

jimfields33

(15,823 posts)
13. We will have the lowest carbon levels in centuries these first months of 2020
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 10:57 PM
Apr 2020

We might even see corrections. Some say it’s over in 12 years, but we just may have added ten years to that. Nobody is paying attention to it yet understandable, but once the word is out that climate change improved. It will be top story all over.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
15. Unfortuately that's not even wrong - NOAA/Scripps expecting no substantial change in CO2
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

Scientists are monitoring the atmosphere at a mountaintop in Hawaii for clues that the coronavirus will be the first economic shock in more than 60 years to slow a rise in carbon dioxide levels that are heating the planet. The Mauna Loa observatory at 3,397 metres is home to the Keeling Curve, tracking increasing carbon dioxide concentrations since 1958. Named after its late founder, Charles Keeling, it is widely viewed as the most iconic measure of humanity’s impact on global climate.

“There has never been an economic shock like this in the whole history of the curve,” Ralph Keeling, professor at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in San Diego and son of Charles Keeling, told Climate Home News of the impact of the coronavirus. He said scientists were now studying data from the mountain in the middle of the Pacific Ocean for signs that the economic slowdown linked to the coronavirus could reduce the rise in atmospheric carbon concentrations.

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But there was a long way from reduced use of fossil fuels to a crisis that would affect carbon dioxide concentrations in the global atmosphere. Keeling estimated that global fossil fuel use would have to decline by 10% for a full year to show up in carbon dioxide concentrations. Even then, it would be a difference of only about 0.5 parts per million.

Since 1958 there have been no world wars, for instance, that might abruptly depress economic activity and emissions and show up as a measurable impact on the curve, he said. Recessions, like the 2008-09 financial crisis or even the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, did not cause a discernible drop. And other factors that have tended to drive the curve up more steeply, such as the economic rise of China this century, were not visible as sudden events. This March 2020 data may hint at a slight slowdown in the rate of rise.
"It’s too early to say,” if it is related to coronavirus, Keeling said, adding there were big variations from year to year and that the March trend was similar to some previous years.

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https://www.climatechangenews.com/2020/03/26/coronavirus-hawaii-scientists-seek-signs-economic-slowdown-air/

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
14. And we may get a taste this summer anyway - GOM water temperatures already 3F above averages
Fri Apr 3, 2020, 10:58 PM
Apr 2020
“I feel like more than anything, we’re just trying to keep our people in some state of calm as we daily put out these bleak circumstances, these bleak numbers. We’re just praying every day that we don’t end up in a state of anarchy.” Belinda Constant, Mayor of Gretna, Louisiana

I understand we have our hands full at the moment with this lethal pandemic, but let us remember that brutal spring, summer and fall weather is coming at us fast and furious as the climate system breaks down. Spring floods, intense heatwaves, wildfires, heavy rain and hurricanes are all expected to be above average this time of year. We don’t have much time to react. A rapidly warming world will expose our vulnerability to simultaneous calamities most of which are of our own making.

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Water temperatures in the Gulf of Mexico are running more than three degrees above average, increasing the prospects for severe thunderstorms and tornadoes this spring and potentially stronger hurricane activity in the summer and fall. The last time Gulf of Mexico waters were similarly warm in 2017, it coincided with an above-average tornado season through the spring, and then Category 4 Hurricane Harvey struck the Texas Gulf Coast at the end of summer.

The balmy gulf waters have already contributed to abnormal warmth across the Deep South, where virtually the entirety of the Interstate 10 corridor through Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia is wrapping up one of its top five warmest Marches on record. Numerous records have toppled, with some cities soaring into the 90s.

The Gulf of Mexico sea surface temperatures have run above normal over the past year, but they have sharply risen even higher in recent months. Now, they are about three degrees above average, and that is likely to have a bearing on weather across the central and eastern Lower 48 in the months to come.

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/3/1931722/-The-Gulf-of-Mexico-is-on-fire-and-that-may-force-climate-disasters-to-overlap-with-the-pandemic?utm_campaign=trending
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