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Possible coronavirus drug identified by Australian scientistsAustralian Scientists have shown that an anti-parasitic drug already available around the world can kill the virus within 48 hours.
Scientists from Monash University in Melbourne showed that a single dose of the drug, Ivermectin, could stop the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture - effectively eradicating all genetic material of the virus within 48 hours.
The next steps are to determine the correct human dosage - ensuring the doses shown to effectively treat the virus in the test tube are safe levels for humans...
Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has also been shown to be effective in vitro against a broad range of viruses including HIV, Dengue, Influenza and Zika virus.
The findings of the study were published today in Antiviral Research.
The Monash Biomedicine Discovery Institute's Dr Kylie Wagstaff, who led the study, said the scientists showed that the drug, Ivermectin, stopped the SARS-CoV-2 virus growing in cell culture within 48 hours.
"We found that even a single dose could essentially remove all viral RNA by 48 hours and that even at 24 hours there was a really significant reduction in it," Dr Wagstaff said.
Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has also been shown to be effective in vitro against a broad range of viruses including HIV, Dengue, Influenza and Zika virus....
"Ivermectin is very widely used and seen as a safe drug. We need to figure out now whether the dosage you can use it at in humans will be effective - that's the next step," Dr Wagstaff said.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011
Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted wonder drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations
https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711.pdf
Ivermectin has also been demonstrated to be a potent broad-spectrum specific inhibitor of importin ?/?-mediated nuclear trans- port and demonstrates antiviral activity against several RNA viruses by blocking the nuclear trafficking of viral proteins. It has been shown to have potent antiviral action against HIV-1 and dengue viruses, both of which are dependent on the importin protein superfamily for several key cellular processes.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I'll believe it when I see it
Disaffected
(4,555 posts)treating mange (I had to have it administered to one of my dogs).
I did a double take when I read this - seems weird.
denem
(11,045 posts)The question is whether it is effective against SARA-CoV-2, at tolerable doses.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)In- vivo none of it works, mostly because the doses required to be effective would be toxic
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Perhaps not as elegantly
Thekaspervote
(32,773 posts)ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Rather the reporting and publics exuberant embrace of every unproven experimental treatment. Good for the researchers. Now cue Alex Jones and every other scam artist to start hoarding and selling flea medicine to people (just as they were touting bleach as a cure, seriously).
denem
(11,045 posts)A rather comprehensive statement don't you think? Anti-virals trials begin with in vitro testing.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)The number of compoubds that successfully provide both safety and effectiveness in-vivo compared to in-vitro is miniscule.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)Every scientist and Big Pharma company in the world are all fighting tooth and nail to try to get "their" product to market. Not for the sake of humanity, but for the purpose of getting the MASSIVE fortune their drug would command.
They will do anything, to make that happen. Screw with "test" results, change facts, alter the normal drug trials,......anything.....
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)👆
If it works, will we be taking monthly wormer along with fur kids? 🤣
jeffreyi
(1,943 posts)She gets a periodic dose of Ivermectin for worms. And she doesn't have coronavirus! I have a few tubes, maybe I should put them on eBay for $1000 each.
I hope this works. Would be great.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)with that stuff ...
Initech
(100,080 posts)Yavin4
(35,441 posts)Bad Yavin!! Shame on you!!!
jeffreyi
(1,943 posts)It can be hard on horses, anyway.
well known horse worm treatment one tube every three months.
jeffreyi
(1,943 posts)Told me that the local vet said he could administer left over horse ivermectin to his dog. So I guess a bonus if we all wind up taking it, is that we won't have worms anymore, either!
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)the 3 tubes I have to worm my horses this spring?!
snort
(2,334 posts)they are!
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)the other ingredients.
snort
(2,334 posts)It is a common drug for humans. For me, if I felt this thing coming on and the hospitals were packed, I might estimate the quantity cut that in half and then risk it. Fighting chance and all that. Usual adult dose according to the tubes is 0.2mg once maybe a 2nd dose after 2 weeks depending on the parasite. Sounds like some really powerful shit.
What's the dosage for a horse?
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)On that.
crickets
(25,981 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)I'll be interested to see NNadir's comments on this.
Ivermectin is a macrocyclic lactone with some very "sugary"-looking side chains. Perhaps these compete with the cellular membrane-bound receptors for binding to the virus.
So what would lead scientists to investigate this drug for activity against a virus ? Well, it's cheap, widely used, and pretty harmless towards humans, so why not test it on everything ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin
Sunriser13
(612 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 4, 2020, 02:02 AM - Edit history (1)
[10] In the United States, the costs is less than US$50.
$0.12 vs $50.00
Damn shame. If the treatment does indeed pan out, expect US prices to skyrocket...
Wednesdays
(17,380 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)intrepidity
(7,307 posts)Such as a cell culture model, just to discover if any current drugs will have any effect on a new threat (virus, whatever). I imagine that's what happened here.
That is, I doubt there was anything mechanistically that predicted ivermectin may be active against c19. But, just a guess.
ETA: lol, no, not so. See below. Turns out there was good reason to test it.
Ivermectin is an FDA-approved broad spectrum anti-parasitic agent1 that in recent years we, along with other groups, have shown to have anti-viral activity against a broad range of viruses2, 3, 4, 5 in vitro. Originally identified as an inhibitor of interaction between the human immunodeficiency virus-1 (HIV-1) integrase protein (IN) and the importin (IMP) ?/?1 heterodimer responsible for IN nuclear import6, Ivermectin has since been confirmed to inhibit IN nuclear import and HIV-1 replication5. Other actions of ivermectin have been reported7, but ivermectin has been shown to inhibit nuclear import of host (eg.8,9) and viral proteins, including simian virus SV40 large tumour antigen (T-ag) and dengue virus (DENV) non-structural protein 55, 6. Importantly, it has been demonstrated to limit infection by RNA viruses such as DENV 1-44, West Nile Virus10, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus (VEEV)3 and influenza2, with this broad spectrum activity believed to be due to the reliance by many different RNA viruses on IMP?/?1 during infection11,12. Ivermectin has similarly been shown to be effective against the DNA virus pseudorabies virus (PRV) both in vitro and in vivo, with ivermectin treatment shown to increase survival in PRV-infected mice13. Efficacy was not observed for ivermectin against Zika virus (ZIKV) in mice, but the authors acknowledged that study limitations justified re-evaluation of ivermectins anti-ZIKV activity14. Finally, ivermectin was the focus of a phase III clinical trial in Thailand in 2014-2017, against DENV infection, in which a single daily oral dose was observed to be safe and resulted in a significant reduction in serum levels of viral NS1 protein, but no change in viremia or clinical benefit was observed (see below)15.
eppur_se_muova
(36,266 posts)Sunriser13
(612 posts)Wasn't one of the difficulties of finding antiviral treatment for Covid-19 the fact that it is an RNA virus vs a DNA virus?
I don't know - it would be wonderful if this establishes the base for treatment or cure.
In the meantime, I guess the cats wont be getting their flea squirts this month...
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)lol cats!
sprinkleeninow
(20,250 posts)Revolution .
JK. 🐶
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)I'm in awe of the rapid research being done.
Initech
(100,080 posts)I salute those who are doing the research!
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)GO SCIENCE! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Aristus
(66,381 posts)I hope people don't panic after taking it.
Rapid heart rate and dizziness are also potential side effects, so they may feel like they're panicking.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)[link:https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/business/corona-beer-production/index.html|
Corona beer stops production
🤣🤣🤣
Many here actually believe it comes from this beer! 😳🤯
I am really excited to hear this antiparasitic is a possibility! Keeping 🤞🤞🤞!
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)I have 3 tubes!
Nac Mac Feegle
(971 posts)Like with the Chloroquinine, it could be a dead end.
https://xkcd.com/1217/