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Did anyone ask WTF he sent all that PPE to China when he KNEW? (Original Post) SheltieLover Mar 2020 OP
Are you talking about this: jberryhill Mar 2020 #1
Yes SheltieLover Mar 2020 #2
You have been lied to jberryhill Mar 2020 #4
Even so SheltieLover Mar 2020 #5
That's nonsense jberryhill Mar 2020 #9
NOT IMO WITH IMPENDING PANDEMIC SheltieLover Mar 2020 #13
You might want to have your caps lock key checked out jberryhill Mar 2020 #14
WHATEVER SheltieLover Mar 2020 #20
I believe in truth - that is one of my ideals jberryhill Mar 2020 #25
Oh, and welcome to DU jberryhill Mar 2020 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #21
Oh dear jberryhill Mar 2020 #29
we need to scream this bdamomma Mar 2020 #3
You have been lied to jberryhill Mar 2020 #6
YES, BUT SheltieLover Mar 2020 #10
If 3M and Amazon have chosen to donate and ship goods to China jberryhill Mar 2020 #12
Not bizarre SheltieLover Mar 2020 #23
YUP! SheltieLover Mar 2020 #7
K&R, People are dying !! These reporters need to work together !!! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #8
I'm going to bet they actually checked this story out jberryhill Mar 2020 #11
Just can't get mad at sending aid to other countries, especially two months ago. China reciprocates Hoyt Mar 2020 #15
I am NOT opposed to humitarian aid SheltieLover Mar 2020 #17
Sorry, I disagree. Two months ago China needed it more than us. I think we help when we can, and Hoyt Mar 2020 #19
Well then your issue would seem to be with 3M, Amazon jberryhill Mar 2020 #22
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #24
I'm not defending him at all jberryhill Mar 2020 #27
Trump gave them nothing from our national stockpile. dalton99a Mar 2020 #16
Yes, but... SheltieLover Mar 2020 #26
I think the donors just assumed that there was enough stuff here at home dalton99a Mar 2020 #31
Aside from which jberryhill Mar 2020 #32
Yep. dalton99a Mar 2020 #33
or to north korea? getagrip_already Mar 2020 #28
These were private donations from US companies jberryhill Mar 2020 #30
I'm glad that obnoxiousdrunk Mar 2020 #34
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Are you talking about this:
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:59 PM
Mar 2020

You mean the 17 tons from early February referenced here:

https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-the-novel-coronavirus/

February 7, 2020

This week the State Department has facilitated the transportation of nearly 17.8 tons of donated medical supplies to the Chinese people, including masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials. These donations are a testament to the generosity of the American people.

Key words: "facilitated the transportation" and "donated medical supplies"

Here you go:


https://www.directrelief.org/2020/02/protective-gear-bound-for-cities-in-china-with-most-coronavirus-patients/

U.S. Private Sector Backing China’s Coronavirus Fight
FEBRUARY 6, 2020


With the backing of many U.S. private sector companies and foundations, Direct Relief today sent a major shipment of personal protective gear to Chinese hospitals at the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, including 250,000 N95 masks and other requested items.

Since Jan. 27, Direct Relief has sent to hospitals in China a total of 572,000 N95 and surgical masks.

The recipients in China include the largest hospitals in the three cities with the highest reported incidence of coronavirus—Wuhan, Xiaogan and Huanggang. The three cities are all located in Hubei Province, where more than 19,000 cases of novel coronavirus have been reported. Items in Thursday’s shipments will also be directed to local agencies in neighboring Chongqing.

A number of prominent U.S. private sector companies and foundations are channeling their China assistance through Direct Relief. The HP Foundation on Monday donated $1 million to the effort, with other large cash donations coming from Pfizer, Eli Lilly, and Grandstream Networks. 3M and Amazon have donated large quantities of personal protective gear.


Here's a picture of the gear in question:



The latest shipment of personal protective equipment, including surgical masks and N95 respirator masks, departs Direct Relief's warehouse Thursday, bound for medical facilities in China.


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Those were supplies donated by a range of private donors.

The only thing the State Dept. did was "facilitate the transport" - i.e. cutting red tape involved in exporting goods to China, with whom we have a trade war.

Among all the dumb things the administration has done, it seems that someone has been busy on social media coming up with a fake one for people to latch onto.

Why do you suppose someone would do that?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. You might want to have your caps lock key checked out
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:09 PM
Mar 2020

The US government cannot simply decide to seize private stocks of goods from companies who have decided to donate them to a relief effort, regardless of your opinion otherwise.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
25. I believe in truth - that is one of my ideals
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

And you are mischaracterizing a story about private companies who chose to make donations, as they are free to do in this country.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. Oh, and welcome to DU
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:12 PM
Mar 2020

Congratulations on having signed up this week. I look forward to your contributions.

I am often interested in how false or misleading stories propagate on social media - particularly ones that seem designed to appeal to our side. This sometimes bothers people.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #18)

bdamomma

(63,931 posts)
3. we need to scream this
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:03 PM
Mar 2020

out, we have a traitor and murderer giving away our supplies.

He hates Americans period and taking revenge on us.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. You have been lied to
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:03 PM
Mar 2020

You mean the 17 tons from early February referenced here:

https://china.usembassy-china.org.cn/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-the-novel-coronavirus/

February 7, 2020

This week the State Department has facilitated the transportation of nearly 17.8 tons of donated medical supplies to the Chinese people, including masks, gowns, gauze, respirators, and other vital materials. These donations are a testament to the generosity of the American people.

Key words: "facilitated the transportation" and "donated medical supplies"

Here you go:


https://www.directrelief.org/2020/02/protective-gear-bound-for-cities-in-china-with-most-coronavirus-patients/

U.S. Private Sector Backing China’s Coronavirus Fight
FEBRUARY 6, 2020


With the backing of many U.S. private sector companies and foundations, Direct Relief today sent a major shipment of personal protective gear to Chinese hospitals at the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, including 250,000 N95 masks and other requested items.

Since Jan. 27, Direct Relief has sent to hospitals in China a total of 572,000 N95 and surgical masks.

The recipients in China include the largest hospitals in the three cities with the highest reported incidence of coronavirus—Wuhan, Xiaogan and Huanggang. The three cities are all located in Hubei Province, where more than 19,000 cases of novel coronavirus have been reported. Items in Thursday’s shipments will also be directed to local agencies in neighboring Chongqing.

A number of prominent U.S. private sector companies and foundations are channeling their China assistance through Direct Relief. The HP Foundation on Monday donated $1 million to the effort, with other large cash donations coming from Pfizer, Eli Lilly, and Grandstream Networks. 3M and Amazon have donated large quantities of personal protective gear.


Here's a picture of the gear in question:



The latest shipment of personal protective equipment, including surgical masks and N95 respirator masks, departs Direct Relief's warehouse Thursday, bound for medical facilities in China.


--------------

Those were supplies donated by a range of private donors.

The only thing the State Dept. did was "facilitate the transport" - i.e. cutting red tape involved in exporting goods to China, with whom we have a trade war.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. If 3M and Amazon have chosen to donate and ship goods to China
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:07 PM
Mar 2020

Then the government cannot step in and say, “No, you have to sell it to us instead.”

That’s just bizarre.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
23. Not bizarre
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:16 PM
Mar 2020

He knew what was coming here...

He wouldn't have to take the equipment. He could have spoken to companies donating & arranged to buy for OUR needs.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
15. Just can't get mad at sending aid to other countries, especially two months ago. China reciprocates
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:09 PM
Mar 2020



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Plane load of masks arrives from China:

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
17. I am NOT opposed to humitarian aid
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:11 PM
Mar 2020

BUT common sense mandates you cover YOUR BASES FIRST!

AND most of the masks China just sent out were defective, perhaps not intentionally.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Sorry, I disagree. Two months ago China needed it more than us. I think we help when we can, and
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:13 PM
Mar 2020

hope to get it in return.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
22. Well then your issue would seem to be with 3M, Amazon
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:14 PM
Mar 2020

And Boeing...

https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2020-01-29-Boeing-Donates-250-000-Medical-Masks-to-Battle-Coronavirus-in-China

CHICAGO, Jan. 29, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] today announced a donation of 250,000 medical-grade respiratory masks to address medical supply shortages in China. The masks will be provided to local health officials battling the spread of the coronavirus in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, and Zhoushan, Zhejiang Province.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #22)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. I'm not defending him at all
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:19 PM
Mar 2020

But there are those who seem intent on whipping up outrage over something other than the many awful things he has actually done.

Almost as if someone wanted Trump opponents to make fools of themselves.

dalton99a

(81,637 posts)
16. Trump gave them nothing from our national stockpile.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:09 PM
Mar 2020

The (private) donations were mostly symbolic. China needed no help in terms of hospital supplies


dalton99a

(81,637 posts)
31. I think the donors just assumed that there was enough stuff here at home
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

Not many people were looking at the national stockpile situation - because Trump was telling everyone to ignore what the medical experts were saying


 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
32. Aside from which
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:29 PM
Mar 2020

Had there been an interest in increasing the national stockpile, the US government could simply buy more without some nonsensical interception of a private relief effort.

getagrip_already

(14,891 posts)
28. or to north korea?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:21 PM
Mar 2020

The only reason we know about china is because pompeo announced it on twitter.

He very well could have sent shipments to kim also.....

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. These were private donations from US companies
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:24 PM
Mar 2020

The US Goverment did not ship the goods.

See the pictures up thread. FedEx does not deliver to North Korea.

With the daily wealth of atrocious things Trump does, why do some feel compelled to make stuff up?

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