Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kpete

(72,024 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:22 PM Mar 2020

Queens ER Dr: "I don't really care if I get into trouble for speaking to the media."

‘People Are Dying’: 72 Hours Inside a N.Y.C. Hospital Battling Coronavirus
By Robin Stein and Caroline Kim•March 25, 2020

An emergency room doctor in Elmhurst, Queens, gives a rare look inside a hospital at the center of the coronavirus pandemic. “We don’t have the tools that we need.”

"I don't really care if I get into trouble for speaking to the media. I want people to know that this is bad. People are dying. We don't have the tools that we need."

https://www.nytimes.com/video/nyregion/100000007052136/coronavirus-elmhurst-hospital-queens.html?action=click&module=video-series-bar®ion=header&pgtype=Article&playlistId=video/coronavirus-news-update



?s=20
45 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Queens ER Dr: "I don't really care if I get into trouble for speaking to the media." (Original Post) kpete Mar 2020 OP
And where is rump in all of this? Playing golf, watching TV, reading newspapers, bullshiting on... SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #1
He hates Cuomo with a passion..... pangaia Mar 2020 #10
"reading newspapers?" MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #13
Many authors and people that know him say he "reads" the newspapers... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2020 #18
Trump is killing Americans azureblue Mar 2020 #30
Yes. And his enablers are just as guilty too. One day a reckoning will come and perhaps a ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #43
I HOPE the jackels that always listen to DT hear this! There were already 2 people who died when napi21 Mar 2020 #2
??? I didn't hear anything about the wife dying though she was in critical condition. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #5
Wife didn't die. LisaL Mar 2020 #7
That's what I thought. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #8
All fish are coy. marybourg Mar 2020 #12
Even koi? n/t Harker Mar 2020 #15
K & fkn R, goddamit Leghorn21 Mar 2020 #3
Kick dalton99a Mar 2020 #4
sending out an SOS stillcool Mar 2020 #6
don't stand dweller Mar 2020 #9
I forgot that... stillcool Mar 2020 #11
It's just the beginning. They expect it to peak in May. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #14
OMG, this is so sad. Where is the PPE, test kits, ventilators, etc that these healthcare providers iluvtennis Mar 2020 #16
trumpence should be in jail Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #31
People are dying in the ER waiting for help. roamer65 Mar 2020 #17
Medical supply production avlbeerfan Mar 2020 #19
FFS the Trump transition team Lars39 Mar 2020 #20
Plans or no plans avlbeerfan Mar 2020 #23
Lots of things that could have been done Lars39 Mar 2020 #25
+++++ agree. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #33
Maybe Trump & Pence can't pull supplies outta thin air, but they could have not dismantled pandemic flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #21
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #28
Trump needs to be defunded azureblue Mar 2020 #32
Right! Iwonder if anyone in the US will recognize the problem and return the mfg. of mandatory napi21 Mar 2020 #22
US intelligence knew China was lying in December. Trump was told and did not believe it. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #24
Strategic National Stockpile AllyCat Mar 2020 #37
America didn't give away it's manufacturing to China or Mexico, or anywhere else...as SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #44
Can we say tiptonic Mar 2020 #26
Our new reality. nt BootinUp Mar 2020 #27
What I can't figure out is how wnylib Mar 2020 #29
He may very well have CV-19. He reports tht he's been tested, but I don't believe him. He is too iluvtennis Mar 2020 #34
No, I don't think he has it. wnylib Mar 2020 #40
OK, I just looked it up. Genocide Don wnylib Mar 2020 #41
interesting. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #42
it's only a speculation that occurred to me wnylib Mar 2020 #45
The doctor at about 1 min in confirmed CPAP machines can help Jarqui Mar 2020 #35
We were warned at shift change tonight not to post photos AllyCat Mar 2020 #36
That has to be based on fear of liability and subsequent financial fallout misanthrope Mar 2020 #38
A refrigerated truck for dead bodies.... OhioChick Mar 2020 #39

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
1. And where is rump in all of this? Playing golf, watching TV, reading newspapers, bullshiting on...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:25 PM
Mar 2020

the phone (pardon the language), or tweeting. Certainly not doing anything to help speed things up, etc.

If anything, he's whining again about the media / press coverage.

MyOwnPeace

(16,940 posts)
13. "reading newspapers?"
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

Ha, you crack me up!!!!
But you DO have the right idea - he's nowhere near being concerned or involved with what happens to millions of Americans.
What did America ever do to deserve this?

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
18. Many authors and people that know him say he "reads" the newspapers...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

but what he mostly does apparently, is skim articles and headlines for his name. He looks only for references to HIM, and when he sees one, he will delve into it just enough to figure out if it is flattering or not. If it is flattering, he will indulge it completely, because he loves to read glowing articles about himself. This is with the caveat that a narcissist like Trumpy can only do so much before he gets bored and has to move on to the next, more gratifying thing.

But if it isn't utterly flattering, he will make note of the author and the subject matter so he can use it against the writer or publication later on.

He does read, just not like you or I understand the term.

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
43. Yes. And his enablers are just as guilty too. One day a reckoning will come and perhaps a ...
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:52 AM
Mar 2020

tiny sliver of justice for all of his victims will be obtained. Too many of us in this Country believe in law of right, not might, and that indeed, 1 vote counts as 1 vote, and that the 1%ers don't 'rule' this country, we ALL do, each vote equaling the same as another vote.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
2. I HOPE the jackels that always listen to DT hear this! There were already 2 people who died when
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 09:29 PM
Mar 2020

they took the medication he said would keep people from getting Covid 19/ The man had died already when the wife was interviewed. She said she heard DT say this in one of his daily briefings & she had some in her house. When asked why she had it she said she used to keep coy fish and it was for the fish. She died the next day. It seems these DT supporters do't use their heads at all & just believe whatever he says.

PLEASE PEOPLE! Listen to this Doctor!

SunSeeker

(51,737 posts)
14. It's just the beginning. They expect it to peak in May.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:34 PM
Mar 2020

They better clear out the ice rinks to store the coffins, like Spain is doing.


iluvtennis

(19,880 posts)
16. OMG, this is so sad. Where is the PPE, test kits, ventilators, etc that these healthcare providers
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:01 PM
Mar 2020

need. trump and pence should be ashamed.

 

avlbeerfan

(52 posts)
19. Medical supply production
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:18 PM
Mar 2020

Look when America gave away all of its manufacturing capacity to China this is what happens.
I dont like Trump & Pence but realistically they cant pull supplies outta thin air.
This is a problem that was years in the making.
How much does the hospital CEO make where the Dr. works is that why there wasnt a stockpile of PPE?
My local hospital CEO made a million a year as a nonprofit until they sold out to HCA.
Maybe if China had told the real numbers and the WHO had bothered to check to see if China was lying
MAYBE just MAYBE Italy, Spain, Iran and us could got out in front of this thing.

 

avlbeerfan

(52 posts)
23. Plans or no plans
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020

if the PPE is not here its not here. What good is a damn plan if it says make sure all hospitals are well staffed and supplied?

Lars39

(26,117 posts)
25. Lots of things that could have been done
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:33 PM
Mar 2020

before staff and PPE were tested. Trump and his transition team did not want to learn.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
21. Maybe Trump & Pence can't pull supplies outta thin air, but they could have not dismantled pandemic
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020

response team. And fired the experts. And ignored the intel warnings. They could have not called it a hoax and they could have not said we have it all under control and will go away very soon.

Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #21)

azureblue

(2,153 posts)
32. Trump needs to be defunded
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:53 PM
Mar 2020

Remember he fired the CDC way back and ignored warnings back in January. This is 100% Trump's failure. And now he is trying to score political points with people's lives. He is literally killing people. The WHO has nothing at all to do with this so take your talking point elsewhere. Trump needs to be fired and dragged out of the White House.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
22. Right! Iwonder if anyone in the US will recognize the problem and return the mfg. of mandatory
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:30 PM
Mar 2020

ermergency items like masks, ventilators etc. back home? It's certainly possible to go without making clothes, shoes, and many of the items we've outsourced to China and other low cost employers but mandatory healthcare items, and parts for systems & equipment that we as a society need must be made HERE!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. US intelligence knew China was lying in December. Trump was told and did not believe it.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:33 PM
Mar 2020

And the shortage is not due to where things are made. But after 30 years of MBAs and Industrial Engineers pushing Just In Time stocking onto every business no one keeps inventory. And JIT is very efficient. At minimizing costs. Until there is a pandemic. Which is not taught about at IE school.

AllyCat

(16,233 posts)
37. Strategic National Stockpile
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:50 AM
Mar 2020

Good relations with our allies. Working globally to come up with supplies from other sources. Tasking industry with changing their production or increasing it. 3D printers?

SWBTATTReg

(22,174 posts)
44. America didn't give away it's manufacturing to China or Mexico, or anywhere else...as
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:55 AM
Mar 2020

consumers wanting yet a lower price for items, we all did.

The Billionaires and / or Millionaires wanting yet more profits (as though they weren't making enough) didn't hurt in the effort either.

wnylib

(21,645 posts)
29. What I can't figure out is how
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:42 PM
Mar 2020

so many people around President Death have either been near someone who tested positive or are positive themselves and yet Donny Death is negative. The CPAC meeting, Mar a Lago, etc. And he us so confident that he won't get it. Not the reaction you expect from a germophobe. Does he really believe he has some kind of invisible protection shield? That it's just the flu?

iluvtennis

(19,880 posts)
34. He may very well have CV-19. He reports tht he's been tested, but I don't believe him. He is too
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:16 AM
Mar 2020

arrogant to be tested.

wnylib

(21,645 posts)
40. No, I don't think he has it.
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:05 AM
Mar 2020

He would not have a mild case at his age and health.

He might have been tested. He talks about what a "nasty" ordeal testing is, like a true wimp.

OTOH, how long ago was his "partial" yearly exam at Walter Reed? It was before the outbreak in China, but how long before?

wnylib

(21,645 posts)
41. OK, I just looked it up. Genocide Don
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:24 AM
Mar 2020

went to Walter Reed in mid November. The massive outbreak in Wuhan occurred a few weeks later in December. But it was probably circulating in China in November, before the huge Wuhan outbreak.

Possibly there were people traveling to and from China in November who picked it up and carried it to Europe and the US.

If the genocidal president had a case of coronavirus in November and recovered, that would explain why he is so confident now about his own invulnerability. And typical of him, he would believe that was proof of his superiority over people who die from it, so they are expendable.

Maybe that's why he was out of the public eye for a while after his trip to Walter Reed and seemed more drugged than usual.

wnylib

(21,645 posts)
45. it's only a speculation that occurred to me
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:07 PM
Mar 2020

when I wondered why Trump is so confident of his own safety and continued to shake hands in public for so long since he is supposed to be a germophobe.

If he has immunity due to recovery from an early case of it, that would explain his attutude and behavior.

The timing is right. It is believed now that the virus was circulating in China during November. That fits the pattern of epidemics and pandemics. The disease. circulates in a population for a few weeks before enough of them have it to form a cluster outbreak in one community, like Wuhan.

Given the number of people in the Trump circle of contacts who are involved in business and trade negotiations in China, it is entirely plausible that one of them carried the virus to the US where Trump could pick it up through direct or indirect contact in DC, NY, or Mar a Lago in November, before it was a known disorder.

Acute symptoms like a high fever and trouble breathing would be a medical emergency for Trump to seek treatment at Walter Reed.

His persistence in calling covid 19 the Chinese virus and explanation for saying it, that the Chinese government did not warn people early enough, fits well if he takes it personally from personal experience of being infected.

None of this is proof. But if true, it explains some recent mysteries, e.g. the Walter Reed trip and Trump's indifference about getting infected, which is inconsistent with being a germophobe.

Might be worth an investigative reporter looking into it.

AllyCat

(16,233 posts)
36. We were warned at shift change tonight not to post photos
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:45 AM
Mar 2020

Of ourselves on social media in our PPE. Management has never had a problem before now with pictures of us at work having tasteful fun, smiling, group committee photos. But all of a sudden, no photos allowed. Methinks they don’t want the world to know the “protection” they have provided for us is completely inadequate.

misanthrope

(7,432 posts)
38. That has to be based on fear of liability and subsequent financial fallout
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:55 AM
Mar 2020

Otherwise they wouldn't care.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Queens ER Dr: "I don't re...