Trump is going to run on his Coronavirus Response

[lame54]

His #'s are up

People are loving it

We are through the looking glass

[LiberalFighter]

1. Will it show him sleeping on the job?

[Turin_C3PO]

2. They'll probably go back down.

People have a short attention span so, god willing, when this thing ends, his ratings will go back to normal.

[lame54]

3. Normal is still WAY too high

[Turin_C3PO]

5. I think his

basement is 37%. He hit that for a few weeks in 2017. I don’t think it will ever go lower than that.

[ooky]

11. They won't approve of him when members of their own

families start dying.

[lame54]

14. Not so sure - remember 5th ave

[Celerity]

32. but that was a theoretical (and by its very nature, an enemy of Trump) stranger being shot

this will be their own family members

aka the 'good guys' (in MAGAt's brains)

[lame54]

33. This will be the test

[Celerity]

36. if your positings are correct (in the full doom sense of it) and Trump is, for example,

able to overcome (and be reelected) say, 1.5 millions deaths in the US, including huge swathes of his core goons' families, then without a shred of the doubt the US is headed for a dissolution of the union within 15 to 20 years max, for a literal multiplicity of deeply structural and socio-cultural reasons.

For but one example, if Trump takes the SCOTUS to 7-2 or even 8-1 (Sotomayor has horrid chronic diabetes) HARD RW, plus replaces Thomas with a much younger version of thug, that alone will be a fundamental driver of the break-up, as the Red States will flood the Federal courts (who will be by then even more stacked with crazed RWe'ers after 4 more Trumpian years as long as the Senate is in Rethug control) with test cases that are intended to roll back ALL post-Brown v Board (and Brown itself) civil rights. Then Trump and the Rethugs will not just devolve things back to the states, but will try, via federal force if necessary, to initiate a Gilead-style radical RW Xian theocracy. The Blue states will never submit, and will start to make moves towards succession.

[nature-lover]

35. Especially if they are first responders, doctors or nurses who couldn't get PPE.

[ooky]

41. My feeling is they will start to unravel when their loved ones are in late

stages of the disease and they can't get help because their local health systems are starting to reach capacity amidst escalating cases. This rodeo is just getting started. Give it 2-3 more weeks of progression and all this stupid right wing tough talk about going to work and to church and sacrificing grandma and grandpa for the economy will dissipate, at which time it will all turn very ugly for Donald Trump. He isn't going to be able to bullshit his way through this.

[Butterflylady]

39. Or when the economy goes haywire!

The economy is what he's counting on!!!!!!

[Celerity]

23. the shite has not remotely begun to hit the fan in terms of US deaths, it's going to be jaw-dropping

Zero chance he will be able to run of his 'response'.

The carnage in the Red States, who are refusing to close, etc, is going to be immense.

[Turin_C3PO]

24. Yup.

Personally I’m scared to death of this virus because I have Cystic Fibrosis and would very likely die if I contract this. So if Trump ends up getting me killed, I’m going to haunt his ass.

[ooky]

44. Same here. Due to my health history I believe

my only good way to survive this is to not get it until there is a vaccine. I am digging into isolation for the long haul. I don't see a choice.

[greenjar_01]

4. Approval ratings during times of national crisis are generally in the 80s-90s

40s is shockingly bad.

[lame54]

7. Closer to 50...

Which are reelection numbers

[greenjar_01]

9. OK, buddy

[lame54]

12. You're right - overconfidence is the way to go

[greenjar_01]

19. No, it's posting 5000 consecutive posts about how Trump's definitely gonna get reelected

Using each new story as a springboard for what seems like pathological pessimism.

You do you, though.

[John Fante]

38. Gloom and doom sure as hell isn't.

Trump is at 44% on 538. Let's see where his numbers are when the death toll hits five figures.

[lame54]

40. I've seen 49 50 and even 55...

He has definitely gotten a bump from this

How can i not be down when he is being SO OBVIOUSLY INCOMPETENT every step of the way and yet his numbers go up

That leads to frustration confusion and helplessness

Saying that he will lose because many are going to die is so 4 years ago thinking

[John Fante]

46. His bump is weak given the nature of the circumstances.

45-46% approval ratings for the most part. Even Rasmussen has him at 46% in their latest poll, and they usually rate him higher.

[Turin_C3PO]

13. Yes, he'll be re-elected if they stay this high.

But I doubt they will.

[Yavin4]

8. Bush II got into the 90s approval after 9/11.

To give it context.

[NewJeffCT]

6. Sadly, when he appears on TV every day

it makes him look like he's in charge. The media cannot fact check his Firehose of Falsehoods in real time, and Dr. Fauci is too nice most of the time to really call out Trump. So, if people tune out after the conference is over, they won't see the media fact checking him afterwards.

[lame54]

10. Tape delay...with fact checks in bold letters on the screen

[underpants]

18. Rally round effect too. I just can't see these pressers helping him with THE focus of the election

Women. Specifically suburban women. The Dems are killing it with suburban women.

Trump doesn't understand or care. He referred to Dr. Birx by her first name at least 3 times yesterday. Not all publicity is good publicity regardless of the truism.

[smirkymonkey]

15. Well. Fuck me.

[lame54]

17. Can I bum one of those from you

[LuckyCharms]

27. LMAO

[Phoenix61]

16. I'm not being negative or alarmist but the

bodies haven’t started stacking up yet. I’ll be 59 and I can still remember seeing the images of body bags stacked up on the evening news during the Vietnam War. When the media starts showing those images his ratings will sink.

[lame54]

20. Normally yes - but...

Nothing is normal
We may be on 5th ave

[redstatebluegirl]

29. Remember when they put the casualty figures in a box in the corner during the evening news?

My Mom would look at them, shake her head and cry.

[Phoenix61]

31. I do. They were labeled "Soldiers" and "Enemies"

I wondered if they used the same numbers “there” but just switched the names.

[redstatebluegirl]

37. Maybe the networks should do the same with COVID19.

[renate]

21. If he does, I think he will regret that choice

The numbers will be even more horrifying by then, the economy will still be staggering along trying to recover, and there is video of him saying it’ll be just 15 people, that he wants people to go back to work a week from now, etc.

There would have been a pandemic no matter what he did, but if he had listened to experts instead of the voices in his head, he would have ordered PPE and ventilators in January and the health care system would not be nearly as strained. His decisions and his alone will have made this utterly catastrophic rather than painful.

If Putin can’t hack the election, he will lose.

[budkin]

22. Just wait until the corpses start piling up in a week or two

He's not going to run on that.

[Phoenix61]

28. Yep, I said the same thing. I don't think

people get what is going to happen. I’d guess some think it’s just a big city thing and since they live in a rural area they’ll be ok. If they counted the hospital beds around them they’d realize they may be even more screwed than their big city cousins.

[HarlanPepper]

48. Yes, and it's not just that.

People will start looking at their 401ks.

There will be congressional hearings about the mishandling of the testing process. Mass subpoenas of records, etc. It will be a big story right around the time of the election.

The media will shift from covering body counts to digging into what went wrong. I suspect there will be a lot of leaks.

We will have enormous sums of money spent to define his response to corona by people like Bloomberg that are likely to be quite brutal.

We are still likely to have a high unemployment rate at the time of the election.

It will be a steady drip drip drip effect sometimes coming in torrents. He should be polling in the 70s and 80s. By the time he's done getting his teeth kicked in over the next 7 months anyone not in the cult will not only think he did a shitty job on the virus, they will think he created it at mar a lago.

[TreasonousBastard]

25. Note that he will not be running on his actual response but...

what he claims his response is.

The ghost of Goebbels must be proud.

[Crunchy Frog]

26. If he succeeds, then I'm afraid this country really does have the government it deserves.

Maybe Americans has simply reached the end of its natural lifespan.

Meantime, the Dems really need to be out front on this, informing the public as to why this "response" is not acceptable, and about what a real president would be doing.

[JCMach1]

30. Let's talk once the body count hits 5 and 6 digits...

Let's see how they feel then...

[blitzen]

34. That will work for almost all of his Sheeple and for no one else...

and so he will fare worse than in 2016.

[mitch96]

42. "going to run on his Coronavirus Response" or lack there of.............................. nt

[lame54]

43. Either way is the same for a Trumper

[mitch96]

50. On my evening walk I saw a group of people having, of all things a BBQ!!

I noticed a bunch of cars in front of one of my neighbors homes. As I walked by I saw a bunch of people, about 15 I guess sitting around a big table out in the back yard.. They were talking and joking, the kids running around like nothing was happening in the world...
I don't want to pass judgement on their actions just that what they were doing was wrong...
All I could do was shake my head......
m

[mitch96]

51. I guess you just can't fix stupid............... nt

[HarlanPepper]

45. God, I hope he does. I'm counting on it, in fact.

[malaise]

47. Not the actual response

Just the reality show about it. Ratings not votes.

[budkin]

49. I posted this Nate Silver article in its own thread but it's relevant here

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-reelection-may-hinge-on-the-economy-and-coronavirus/

[Ferrets are Cool]

52. Even if 1.5 million die

he will SCREAM about what a success his "treatment" was to the U.S. I can see it now..."if it were not for my GREAT WORK, we would have lost 10 million."