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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:14 AM Mar 2020

**Extraordinary scene unfolding right now at St. Joseph's Senior Nursing Home in Woodbridge, NJ**



Steven Bognar @Bogs4NY

Extraordinary scene unfolding right now at St. Joseph's Senior Nursing Home in #Woodbridge, NJ...
94 residents (24 diagnosed with #Coronavirus ... 70 presumed positive) being moved one-by-one to another facility for further care after St. Joe's staff became sick #nbc4ny










10:51 AM - Mar 25, 2020
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**Extraordinary scene unfolding right now at St. Joseph's Senior Nursing Home in Woodbridge, NJ** (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 OP
useless eaters....... (sarcasm) n/t getagrip_already Mar 2020 #1
Oh, How Sad DarthDem Mar 2020 #2
Those poor elders. Jirel Mar 2020 #3
Kick dalton99a Mar 2020 #4
This is only the beginning. If there's a hell, not even the devil would have Trump. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #5
Trump rules hell. BComplex Mar 2020 #53
Kick bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #6
Heartbreaking.💔😭 dewsgirl Mar 2020 #7
94 residents (60 Assisted-living beds, 51 Nursing beds per their website) Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #8
This is what happened in Kirkland WA in Feb... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #9
What facility are they moving to? LisaL Mar 2020 #10
Damn... RT Atlanta Mar 2020 #11
Awful times to be on this rudderless ship. Snarkoleptic Mar 2020 #12
Trump makes an offer to travel to 1912 for a free ocean cruise on the RMS Titanic look safer than cstanleytech Mar 2020 #14
Oh... Squidly Mar 2020 #51
That I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2020 #13
These are among the 2.5M+ that Herr Trump wants to die in his Final Solution Orrex Mar 2020 #15
The irony: immobile olds couldn't have gotten it unless staff brought it in from outside. ancianita Mar 2020 #16
Couldn't it have been a relative? CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #18
Ah, of course. My oversight. Less likely only because of infrequency of contact compared to staff. ancianita Mar 2020 #24
You're right about the infrequency. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #26
So sad. Sending up a prayer for their recovery. Glad the positive step to move these seniors iluvtennis Mar 2020 #17
Tragic. And they are going through it alone Danmel Mar 2020 #19
Coming soon DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #20
OMG. There are 3 large nursing homes wnylib Mar 2020 #47
Colorado Springs, Co DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #49
This was 100% preventable Botany Mar 2020 #21
thank you..I start stillcool Mar 2020 #32
I forgot that the Trump administration was told about the treat of a global pandemic was to .... Botany Mar 2020 #35
Nursing home where I live several patients testing positive... Historic NY Mar 2020 #22
Nothing Is Foolproof DallasNE Mar 2020 #28
Place abutts a closed school and is near the EMS services. Historic NY Mar 2020 #31
How Was That Allowed To Progress To That Level DallasNE Mar 2020 #23
medical personnel? stillcool Mar 2020 #36
Steel your hearts or close your eyes, this is the New Reality Chainfire Mar 2020 #25
That truly is extraordinary. lpbk2713 Mar 2020 #27
I read this just this morning. pazzyanne Mar 2020 #29
I fear this is going to happen on a much larger doc03 Mar 2020 #30
Horrible, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #33
Nursing homes tend to be chronically understaffed. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #34
If an agn0stic's prayers carried any weight Generic Other Mar 2020 #37
I'm glad they are showing this on the news. C Moon Mar 2020 #38
Ugh. This is just so heartbreaking MissB Mar 2020 #39
Crisis Actors? All RW talk show hosts need to be off the air and off the Net. This is an inkling ... marble falls Mar 2020 #40
Didn't you know? PCIntern Mar 2020 #41
They sure grew up fast! If Trump had his way they'd be taken to the Soylent Green factory. marble falls Mar 2020 #42
This hits close to home. SledDriver Mar 2020 #43
me too... hkp11 Mar 2020 #44
me too... FelineOverlord Mar 2020 #46
wishing your MIL the best hkp11 Mar 2020 #54
Those people moving them Tucker08087 Mar 2020 #45
thirty some miles. several counties over projectiboga Mar 2020 #48
Kick Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #50
Let's get those freeloaders back to work! edbermac Mar 2020 #52

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
8. 94 residents (60 Assisted-living beds, 51 Nursing beds per their website)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:24 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.stjosephseniorhome.org/st-joseph/

The facility consists of a 60-bed Assisted Living and a 51-bed Nursing Center. Private and semi-private rooms are available, including some units with kitchenettes on AL side. The Senior Residence, which was converted into a Comprehensive Personal Care Home in 1996, provides care under the supervision of registered nurses and other medical professionals.


Wounded Bear

(58,673 posts)
9. This is what happened in Kirkland WA in Feb...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:28 AM
Mar 2020

though they waited to long, partly due to no testing and it being on the leading edge. Noboy really understood what was happening there. We didn't really know what they were dealing with at first. 22% of residents died at last report.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
11. Damn...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:32 AM
Mar 2020

those could be my grandparents and great aunts & uncles.

Thank you to the team helping to move the residents out and sending what I hope are not useless positive vibes and energy their way.

#interestingtimes

cstanleytech

(26,300 posts)
14. Trump makes an offer to travel to 1912 for a free ocean cruise on the RMS Titanic look safer than
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:42 AM
Mar 2020

any ship Trump might be the captain of.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
13. That
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:41 AM
Mar 2020

Is so sad,but glad they're being cared for and protected.I hope wherever they go is safe. Want a fast recovery for any staff that have covid19.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
15. These are among the 2.5M+ that Herr Trump wants to die in his Final Solution
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:46 AM
Mar 2020

All in a futile effort to pump up the economy.

ancianita

(36,110 posts)
16. The irony: immobile olds couldn't have gotten it unless staff brought it in from outside.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:54 AM
Mar 2020

Once they're both gone, St. Joe's will see who continues to get it, likely learning the slow way, just how its handling contamination hasn't helped stop it.

ancianita

(36,110 posts)
24. Ah, of course. My oversight. Less likely only because of infrequency of contact compared to staff.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:10 PM
Mar 2020
I wonder if this will get followed up on, since it's gotten attention. Getting some model of practices that increase the likelihood, or directly lead to contamination might be good for both patients, St. Joe's, and the rest of America.

No sense wanting olds to die if they become contamination hotspots that end up killing others -- it's like stupidly wanting one's own death warrant.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
26. You're right about the infrequency.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:17 PM
Mar 2020

I haven't seen my dad since September, when I got my transplants and have no immune system because of the anti-rejection meds.

I've been in 2 rehab facilities that quarantined with the flu and was told by doctors to stay away from his assisted living at all times.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
17. So sad. Sending up a prayer for their recovery. Glad the positive step to move these seniors
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:58 AM
Mar 2020

to another facility is being done.

wnylib

(21,505 posts)
47. OMG. There are 3 large nursing homes
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

in my community. One is a HUGE center, like a small village. If it hits there it will be devastating.

DENVERPOPS

(8,838 posts)
49. Colorado Springs, Co
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:05 PM
Mar 2020

Just got a taste of what happens when you put a large group of seniors together for a Bridge Tournament and one of the attendees has Corona, but not yet symptomatic.......

If the Red states and cities think they will be spared and immune, tell them to check in with Florida, New Orleans, and C.Springs co.....

Botany

(70,524 posts)
21. This was 100% preventable
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:04 PM
Mar 2020

Thanx Donny.

We did not need a global pandemic response team

We did not need that epidemiologist in China from the CDC watching out for potential global pandemics

We did not need scientists working on a coronavirus vaccine (SARs) that was defunded in 2018

We did not need those W.H.O.'s C-19 test kits

We did not need to know about the late Jan./early Feb. C-19 case in Seattle that was discovered by
Seattle's Dept. of Health and the University of Washington. (Trump's CDC told them not to talk about
their findings and to stop testing.)

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
32. thank you..I start
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:28 PM
Mar 2020

forgetting and the chronology starts to change. My god, this Presidency will fill an entire encyclopedia.

Botany

(70,524 posts)
35. I forgot that the Trump administration was told about the treat of a global pandemic was to ....
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:32 PM
Mar 2020

... America the world in Jan. of 2017.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
22. Nursing home where I live several patients testing positive...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:06 PM
Mar 2020

no visitors were supposed to be allowed into the premise. Some residents are assisted living but are able to go out and some drive. So the answer is?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
28. Nothing Is Foolproof
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:25 PM
Mar 2020

Because an individual can be a carrier 2-3 days before the first symptom shows up.

Perhaps these steps were even done, but taking the temp of everybody before they are allow to enter the facility and also take the temp of each resident at least once daily. They have temple thermometers that are fast, easy and accurate. Wipe the thermometer head after each test with an alcohol wipe. After each elevated temp start a new wipe.

You don't go from zero to 24 in one day without there being a breakdown somewhere.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
31. Place abutts a closed school and is near the EMS services.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:28 PM
Mar 2020

Some vets live there. I see the AL is closed so perhaps they go out wandering.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
23. How Was That Allowed To Progress To That Level
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:08 PM
Mar 2020

There had to be regulations in place governing people that come and go at that facility. Apparently they were ignored and this is the consequence. Heartbreaking.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
36. medical personnel?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:33 PM
Mar 2020

deliveries? Since there is no testing, they'd have to start getting sick before anyone would know. Then it's too late...for everyone.

Chainfire

(17,559 posts)
25. Steel your hearts or close your eyes, this is the New Reality
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:16 PM
Mar 2020

We best get used to these kinds of scenes; we are at the beginning.

lpbk2713

(42,761 posts)
27. That truly is extraordinary.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:21 PM
Mar 2020


I hope the patients are treated with dignity. Not like so much radioactive meat.

doc03

(35,354 posts)
30. I fear this is going to happen on a much larger
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:28 PM
Mar 2020

scale in places like Florida where they have huge
retirement communities.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,865 posts)
34. Nursing homes tend to be chronically understaffed.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:31 PM
Mar 2020

And those working there are chronically underpaid.

You get what you pay for is sadly true here. Many people cannot afford to pay the market rate for a high-quality facility, thanks in no small part to a for-profit health care system.

But as sad as this is, it's not as bad as what's happened in Spain where staff apparently walked completely out of one or more nursing homes, leaving patients to die in their beds.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
39. Ugh. This is just so heartbreaking
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:44 PM
Mar 2020

My grandparents are long since dead; most of them passed a couple of decades ago.

My father passed a few years back. My mother is right at the vulnerable age being in her early 80s, as are my in-laws.

I worry about all of them, but am strangely grateful that none of them are in a care facility. They are still living in their homes.

Doesn’t mean they aren’t vulnerable- just perhaps less so. Care homes just seem like a terrible place to be and they shouldn’t seem that way.

marble falls

(57,124 posts)
40. Crisis Actors? All RW talk show hosts need to be off the air and off the Net. This is an inkling ...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:47 PM
Mar 2020

of what is coming. This what a Pandemic looks like.

PCIntern

(25,558 posts)
41. Didn't you know?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:51 PM
Mar 2020

Many people are saying that it’s the same people from Sandy Hook School in Connecticut, right??? Yeah, that’s the ticket.

just in case...


Those fuckers...

FelineOverlord

(3,580 posts)
46. me too...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:35 PM
Mar 2020

I live in New Jersey, too.

My mother-in-law lives in a nursing home in New Jersey and they banned all non-medical visitors several weeks ago.

It's been hard for the family not to visit her or take her out but we all understand it's for the best. I had warned my husband that it would happen.

Of course, staff could go out after work and becoming infected and bring it back, so hopefully they are taking precautions.

Looks like they are taking them to Morris County.


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hkp11

(275 posts)
54. wishing your MIL the best
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 08:44 AM
Mar 2020

hope the virus does not spread to her nursing home...it is very hard to not be in physical contact with loved ones. My MIL will not leave the house right now. She asks that all wash theirs when coming into the house. She is very scared of catching it, since she has asthma, high blood pressure, etc. She's in her 80's, so understandable.

Praying that this virus comes to an end soon!!!

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
45. Those people moving them
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

have HazMat suits, with respirators. Not saying they shouldn’t. I’m pointing out that if THIS is the recommended gear, our doctors, nurses, and medical staff are not going to do well, and this virus won’t be stopped by uneducated/uncaring people deciding whether or not to practice social distancing or the local Wendy’s deciding on their own that their take-out window is “essential.”

 

projectiboga

(53 posts)
48. thirty some miles. several counties over
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:04 PM
Mar 2020

They are moving them to an empty facility owned by the same corporate manager Care1. Maps give a driving distance of 32, 33 miles. and it is several counties over, too.

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