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Tribetime

(4,697 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:07 PM Mar 2020

Am I a bad person

I was at a customer's house today to do plumbing work. She just had granite countertops put in kitchen and bath and needed the faucets etc hooked up. Just after starting she had a phone call and I overheard her saying "the democrats are holding it up and Pelosi is a %#%#%#.....So when I got done I charged her double even though she complained of living paycheck to paycheck ( in a house worth half a million )

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Am I a bad person (Original Post) Tribetime Mar 2020 OP
You only doubled the price? guillaumeb Mar 2020 #1
came here to post the same catsudon Mar 2020 #32
Donate some of that extra to Biden's presidential campaign. StarryNite Mar 2020 #2
I don't think so Alpeduez21 Mar 2020 #3
Hurray for you! 😊 MLAA Mar 2020 #4
I am wondering about stories that get the top shelf Beringia Mar 2020 #5
I in a past career worked for wealthy claiming lunasun Mar 2020 #6
I spent most of my working life in small family owned businesses. Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #34
+ HA! Good answer to stop the constant whining about not enough when there is quite a lot lunasun Mar 2020 #37
Well, she probably has a big paycheck. LisaL Mar 2020 #7
it's called asshole service charge AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #8
Heh, I was going to post it's the asshole tax lol Luciferous Mar 2020 #11
You can refer to the surcharge as hazardous duty pay. alwaysinasnit Mar 2020 #9
Absolutely! FarPoint Mar 2020 #13
It was your patriotic duty. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #10
May your tribe increase. nt Atticus Mar 2020 #12
Nah marked50 Mar 2020 #14
You done good! smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #15
No. XRubicon Mar 2020 #16
No, you're not a bad person. You might use the extra money to help people in your area. Lonestarblue Mar 2020 #17
Don't have any regrets vapor2 Mar 2020 #18
Help needed Traildogbob Mar 2020 #19
Donate to DU and they go away. nt babylonsister Mar 2020 #21
Thank you! Traildogbob Mar 2020 #25
Welcome future star member. You also get a lot of options to customize your viewing with star lunasun Mar 2020 #38
just donate what you can Skittles Mar 2020 #52
Thank you guys Traildogbob Mar 2020 #65
To bad you Rebl2 Mar 2020 #20
did you just confess to gouging? Demonaut Mar 2020 #22
That's not gouging treestar Mar 2020 #61
Had clients wine about how little money they had, really sharpened my pencil Canoe52 Mar 2020 #23
No way. Tell her it will help boost the stock market. jalan48 Mar 2020 #24
Yes. n/t demmiblue Mar 2020 #26
No, you did very well. blueinredohio Mar 2020 #27
Same here. Don't go to Home Diablo, Papa John's, Pizza Hut, Wendys or others for same. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #29
Sorry, left out Satan Mart and Lowecifers too. Add Mickey D's now too. Fuck 'em. Evolve Dammit Mar 2020 #30
I once told a potential client I wanted x dollars to represnt him and said rzemanfl Mar 2020 #28
LMAO👍 Tribetime Mar 2020 #35
Maybe. My FIL does this to anyone who has liberal bumper stickers on their cars - he owns a small kelly1mm Mar 2020 #31
Nope, not at all. warmfeet Mar 2020 #33
Bad Dios Mio Mar 2020 #36
I alway add a mook factor if they ask for it. marble falls Mar 2020 #39
If you are, I am. Jarqui Mar 2020 #40
Great writing- I'm glad to read that. Every shithead you deal with, gives the same grief to everyone NBachers Mar 2020 #48
Nah, you're not a bad person. You simply charged a hazardous duty rate. TomSlick Mar 2020 #41
You finished the work... I would have walked out on her. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #42
She was lying about living paycheck to paycheck blue cat Mar 2020 #43
Is this bigotry? dondon Mar 2020 #44
Free market I set the price it's my business Tribetime Mar 2020 #46
I understand its a freemarket dondon Mar 2020 #51
No she loves me she loves my work I'm a plumber Tribetime Mar 2020 #53
Haw haw haw haw ha ha ha- What other pieces of "Berkeley" nitwit-doms to you have to contribute? NBachers Mar 2020 #50
Yep, a supposed gender studies student Hav Mar 2020 #58
Maybe dondon is Mussolini Jr.'s diminutive family nickname. NBachers Mar 2020 #59
A Republican is fine with that treestar Mar 2020 #62
You are a good person. Dream Girl Mar 2020 #45
I don't know about bad, but definitely not ethical sarisataka Mar 2020 #47
I charge really cheap prices I work for myself so what she got charged was still less than almost ev Tribetime Mar 2020 #49
It doesn't matter how much you charge sarisataka Mar 2020 #66
I agree customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #63
Cool story, bro. ZZenith Mar 2020 #54
If you feel bad donate the extra to Biden. dem4decades Mar 2020 #55
Right now I'm just trying to survive Tribetime Mar 2020 #56
Should have charged her triple. dem4decades Mar 2020 #57
Seems odd you would ask the opinion LakeArenal Mar 2020 #60
Sad thing about what you did is that trump would have approved. Doreen Mar 2020 #64

StarryNite

(9,446 posts)
2. Donate some of that extra to Biden's presidential campaign.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:11 PM
Mar 2020

Knowing it came from her would make it all the sweeter.

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
3. I don't think so
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:11 PM
Mar 2020

I service people's equipment and the obvious MAGAts get 10% added to their bill. Good for you I say. Free market and all that.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
5. I am wondering about stories that get the top shelf
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:14 PM
Mar 2020

When I open my iphone to google, it oftens shows news stories 1st in line that make Dems look bad, like this story that Dems are holding up a spending bill for the coronavirus.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. I in a past career worked for wealthy claiming
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:14 PM
Mar 2020

poor. Blah blah paycheck to paycheck
Not the same as others I’ve known who actually do and if you are tight at the time for cash you don’t have new granite tops installed in 2 rooms at that time imo
Other opinions may vary

Mr.Bill

(24,296 posts)
34. I spent most of my working life in small family owned businesses.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

The kinds of places where you see the owner every day and are on a first name basis with them.

Not one of them ever admitted to making ten cents of profit. They were always whining about losing money.

While the drove 50,000 dollar cars and lived in 4,000 sq ft houses in nice neighborhoods.


As I got older and grumpier I would just tell them "Why don't we just lock the doors and all go home so you can stop losing all this money".

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
8. it's called asshole service charge
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

you did the right thing as you had to endure crap like that from a customer.

Lonestarblue

(9,998 posts)
17. No, you're not a bad person. You might use the extra money to help people in your area.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:34 PM
Mar 2020

This person’s vote helped put the excrement known as Donald Trump in the White House, so it’s only fair that her money helps someone in need because of Trump’s defective leadership.

Traildogbob

(8,744 posts)
19. Help needed
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:53 PM
Mar 2020

Can someone here at DU tell me how to stop all the trump advertisements and "help trump" trash popping up her all the time?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
38. Welcome future star member. You also get a lot of options to customize your viewing with star
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:38 PM
Mar 2020

And yes just to remove the ads is incentive enough !

Rebl2

(13,516 posts)
20. To bad you
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:54 PM
Mar 2020

couldn’t say to her move to a cheaper house so you don’t have to live paycheck to paycheck. Then you would have lost a customer, but then you probably wouldn’t want to go back there anyway.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
61. That's not gouging
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:15 PM
Mar 2020

Not possible for services. If the customer was willing to pay that’s the free market. Customer was free to bargain. And didn’t get the price up front. Republicans are all for this. Charge what the traffic will bear.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
23. Had clients wine about how little money they had, really sharpened my pencil
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 08:57 PM
Mar 2020

to give them a good deal on a $20k remodel. Leaky roof, rotten windows. As I was finishing up the shade company was installing some pretty fancy insulating shades. I asked the guy installing them how much they cost (for future reference I said) ten grand he told me. Holy crap, poor my ass. They decided then to remodel their basement, I added $5k to the job to make up for what I should have made on the first remodel.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
27. No, you did very well.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:04 PM
Mar 2020

When I go into a convenience store or small mom and pop place if they have on Fox news or praise Trump they don't get my business.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
28. I once told a potential client I wanted x dollars to represnt him and said
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:07 PM
Mar 2020

half was my fee and the other half was for having to sit next to him in court. Surprisingly he paid. So I guess I am a bad person if you are.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
31. Maybe. My FIL does this to anyone who has liberal bumper stickers on their cars - he owns a small
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:11 PM
Mar 2020

independent garage.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
33. Nope, not at all.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:18 PM
Mar 2020

This what we need to do from now on. Fuck repukes, hard and often. The little precious snowflakes hate this so much. It's why we need to do it. Take their fucking power. All of it.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
40. If you are, I am.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:41 PM
Mar 2020

Right out of engineering school, my father had a few key members of his engineering firm get sick or pass away. My mother asked me to help him. My first project was a complicated, major renovation of a very old building. I worked day & night to get it right. A month or two later, my father and I went to present it to the engineering staff at this client. Quite quickly, the chief draftsman started ripping the crap out of the design and taking personal shots at my father. He was wrong and way beyond rude. My father was an honest, brilliant engineer.

My Dad and I get out to the parking lot after the meeting. I won't get in the car. I'm losing it to the point my poor father is trying to physically restrain me from going back into the building and beating the living shit out of our client's chief draftsman. I had fought a lot in private school because I couldn't stand bullies. My father nearly yanked me out a few times afraid of lawsuits from beating the crap out of those pricks.

My father begged and pleaded for me to get in the car so I did. On the way back to the office, he told me that he would never lose his cool because under his breath he'd say "that BS just cost you $5,000" when someone got out of line.

So we went through eleven meetings with this asshole - changes, changes and more changes - many of them stupid. I kept my cool. Now, we were at a place to present the final drawings, etc for the 12th meeting. I told our chief draftsman to take the original drawings and just put the revision history on the bottom right hand corner ending with revision 11 and that is what we submitted. The asshole pontificated about how we had "finally got it right" (with the original design we had submitted months before) and wasn't it worth all the effort to get to this point.

That is what was built. Worked like a charm. They loved it. About two years later, I told my father what I'd done so that if that asshole every bothered him again, he could tell his boss to look at the first and last set of drawings and the hundreds of thousands in engineering the asshole cost his company.

I never lost a wink of sleep over that.

It was a good lesson because in my company we implemented "the asshole fee" - every time a prospective client was an asshole, you didn't get mad and beat the shit out of the guy - you bumped the quote by an asshole fee because it was going to cost you more to deal with an asshole anyway. If there were too many asshole fees, the asshole had priced himself out of being a client or getting you to do more work and done you a favor because he was going to be an enormous problem.

I slept better with that.

NBachers

(17,115 posts)
48. Great writing- I'm glad to read that. Every shithead you deal with, gives the same grief to everyone
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:11 PM
Mar 2020

Somebody's got to even out the equation.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
41. Nah, you're not a bad person. You simply charged a hazardous duty rate.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:44 PM
Mar 2020

You might have blown a fuse hearing such crap. Your health was in danger.

dondon

(2 posts)
44. Is this bigotry?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020
Hello comrades,

I'm new to the whole concept of this, but my gender studies teacher at Berkeley said that the definition of bigotry is having intolerance towards someone's opinion or race, etc. and I'm just really confused as to why this is not considered as bigotry?

It just seems a little weird that she would be claiming to "live paycheck to paycheck"; regardless I feel that you took advantage of someone who has a different opinion.

dondon

(2 posts)
51. I understand its a freemarket
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:16 PM
Mar 2020

Won't it also hurt your business if that person tells her friends?

Also, it just seems really un-ethical/bigoted to charge someone more because of their opinion.

Tribetime

(4,697 posts)
53. No she loves me she loves my work I'm a plumber
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:20 PM
Mar 2020

But she doesn't know I charged her more than I usually do

NBachers

(17,115 posts)
50. Haw haw haw haw ha ha ha- What other pieces of "Berkeley" nitwit-doms to you have to contribute?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:13 PM
Mar 2020

Who is this don don you speak of?

I finally caught one before the pizza delivery!

Hav

(5,969 posts)
58. Yep, a supposed gender studies student
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:35 PM
Mar 2020

addressing posters here as comrade. This is a precious one. It seems someone got "triggered".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
62. A Republican is fine with that
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:19 PM
Mar 2020

Don’t they argue they can’t do business with gay people? She is a bad businessperson for a Republican. Should have gotten the price agreed upon first. Or bargained it down if possible. It’s the free market way. She shouldn’t object herself.

OP should consider they are worth more than they think they are since she just paid it.

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
47. I don't know about bad, but definitely not ethical
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

although I wonder how many who are cheering you on will hypocritically condemn price gouging and unfair discrimination the next time they hear of it

sarisataka

(18,656 posts)
66. It doesn't matter how much you charge
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:02 AM
Mar 2020

You admit you charged her double based on overhearing a conversation you had no business listening in on. Not anything to do with the job itself.

Also the fact that you did not provide an estimate up front brings up many questions about honesty and ethics.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
63. I agree
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:22 PM
Mar 2020

Would it be ethical to charge more to people of the "wrong" religion? Had this customer subjected the service person to a harangue, that might be one thing, but her conversation was on her own time. The OP was essentially eavesdropping, and acting on information gleaned from that activity.

I always had as my mantra on a tough day, "Don't let this customer's assholishness keep me from doing the very best job I can for their interests." I can't say that I lived up to that standard 100% of the time, but having it as part of my work ethic made me a better person and the world a better place.

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
60. Seems odd you would ask the opinion
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:11 PM
Mar 2020

Then pushback on anyone who says your actions (not you) were bad.

Two wrongs make two wrongs.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
64. Sad thing about what you did is that trump would have approved.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020

I think it is funny though and you needed something for psychological damage.

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