DT seems to think there is some way to...

[pat_k]

... continue to "isolate" the vulnerable while allowing "low risk" healthy people to go back to business as usual. It is a ridiculous notion I've seen floated here and there the last day or so.

I can see no practical way to divvy up people into "healthy, low risk, go back business as usual" and "continue quarantine, older, vulnerable..."

For example, how does a multi-generational family protect the vulnerable while allowing the "low risk" members to carry on as usual and get infected, or not, as the case may be.

I don't know about other people's experience, but my experience is that there are a lot more households with multiple generations living together in high density areas, where incidence is likely to be the highest, and where everyone should be following precautions to the letter to limit spread and protect the most vulnerable.

I've lived in, and visited friends in, buildings and walk ups in high density areas. If I can smell the smoke from a neighbor's cigarette, you can bet I am not "isolated" from virus laden droplets circulating in the air. How do you protect and isolate the vulnerable in such a building from the "healthy, low risk" people who go about their business and get exposed/ill?

Furthermore, he talks about unaffected areas. We have no idea if there are unaffected areas because the areas where there are the fewest cases have done practically no testing. Without widespread testing, there is no way to identify regions in which it may be possible to lift general restrictions because the incidence is so low it is containable with testing, tracing, and quarantine.

DT seems to think there is some magical way to get back to "normal." There isn't.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Not only the elderly are vulnerable, either.

Young people are getting this thing, too, even some without underlying health problems. Nobody knows who is and isn't vulnerable; the reality is that everyone is vulnerable.

[pat_k]

2. Absolutely.

He's obsessed with preserving the value of the nations financial assets. He doesn't give a shit about preserving the nations truly most most valuable assets -- it's people.

[Initech]

8. There was that 39 year old in New Orleans the other day.

That's my age. Literally anyone can get this and it does not discriminate.

[Laelth]

3. "Magical Thinking" is a known feature of persons with Cluster B personality disorder, like Trump.

It should come as no shock to find that he genuinely believes that some “magic” is going to come along and save us from this pandemic. He is genuinely deluded and genuinely dangerous as a result.

-Laelth

[pat_k]

5. "genuinely dangerous" indeed.

In case anyone wants a reminder of some of the other features he exhibits, here's an old post on the subject:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1846040

The man is indeed dangerously mentally ill.

[Midnightwalk]

4. There is also protecting the people who have to be out

Store clerks have to be there. Healthcare workers have to shop. There are people like truck drivers, utility workers and factory workers who have to be out.

It is stupid, selfish, and self defeating to not do everything you can to avoid contact with those people. If you don’t have to be out then don’t risk infecting people who need to be out.

[marlakay]

6. Listening to doctor on show talking

About tests coming in that will let people know right away if they have it and at that time they could send the healthy ones back to work.

[pat_k]

9. Would love to see millions and millions getting a "rapid result" test each day. However,...

... who is manufacturing and distributing all these tests? Where's the infrastructure?

It's taken NY and WA about 3 weeks to test about 1 person per 300. Putting the infrastructure together for such a massive manufacturing, distribution, and monitoring program would take a heck of a lot longer.

More magical thinking.

[marlakay]

10. I know at this point I am

“Believe it when I see it”

[tavernier]

7. I've rented a tiny apartment to be alone at this time

and my family and friends and I get together a couple of times during the week at the county park, which is next to the ocean so it’s like going on a picnic. Sometimes we bring our own food and drinks. We keep the 6 foot distance that is suggested. There will be time for hugs another day. You need to get creative during these desperate times.