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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:06 PM Mar 2020

Trump Increasingly Believes Reopening The Economy Will Be Worth It, Even If More Americans Die

From the article:

Donald Trump increasingly believes that reopening the U.S. economy in the midst of a pandemic will be worth it, even though it will almost certainly mean that more Americans will die.

As MSNBC’s Chris Hayes said on Monday, there is a growing belief among the right-wing voices in Trump’s ear that it’s worth it to roll back social distancing restrictions that have essentially brought the economy to a standstill.

But allowing people to go back to their pre-coronavirus lives will only make matters far worse than they are right now, Hayes said.
“There is no option to just let everyone go back out and go back to normal if a pandemic rages across the country and infects 50 percent of the population and kills a percentage point – at the low end – of those infected and also melts down all the hospitals,” the MSNBC host said. “What kind of economy do you think you’re going to have under those conditions?”


To read more:

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/03/23/trump-increasingly-believes-reopening-the-economy-will-be-worth-it-even-if-more-americans-die.html

How do we read this? Why exactly is Trump willing to do this?

The short answer is that Trump cares only about himself, and winning in November to protect against legal action.
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Trump Increasingly Believes Reopening The Economy Will Be Worth It, Even If More Americans Die (Original Post) guillaumeb Mar 2020 OP
If he could just re-open his own properties, he's might lose interest in the rest. RockRaven Mar 2020 #1
He believes that the only people who will die Thunderbeast Mar 2020 #2
And that group would be everyone not named Donald Trump. eom guillaumeb Mar 2020 #3
He wants to cull the herd StarryNite Mar 2020 #4
He wants people to die bdamomma Mar 2020 #8
It is not just Trump. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #9
He'll kill a lot of healthcare workers in the process as well, especially since there was PA Democrat Mar 2020 #20
They're coming up with insane ways to justify it Johnny2X2X Mar 2020 #5
He may not have the power to overrule the states Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #7
His cult followers will do whatever he says. StarryNite Mar 2020 #25
Of course. Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #32
And if it happens, he will blame others. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #10
How does the economy even function well (or at all) Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #6
SInce about 1980, guillaumeb Mar 2020 #12
I can't even imagine Wall Street working well Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #23
True, this is one factor. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #24
Not "increasingly" - He's been stalling since January eleny Mar 2020 #11
And his worries about his re-election. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #14
yup eleny Mar 2020 #15
♫♫ So it's one two three, what are we hiding for? zackymilly Mar 2020 #13
Channeling your inner Country Joe? guillaumeb Mar 2020 #16
! eleny Mar 2020 #17
How will the economy do if the U.S. becomes an international pariah? Crunchy Frog Mar 2020 #18
Consider that for Trump, and for many business leaders, guillaumeb Mar 2020 #21
"... even if"? pat_k Mar 2020 #19
Trump is not concerned with others dying. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #22
OF COURSE IT'S WORTH IT!!!! LakeArenal Mar 2020 #26
Your all caps reply convinced me. eom guillaumeb Mar 2020 #27
Yeah. Sound bites and catch phrases!!! LakeArenal Mar 2020 #28
A point on the Dow is worth how many lives?? gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #29
For the sociopathic among the rich, our lives are worthless. eom guillaumeb Mar 2020 #33
We all die, but why the killing frenzy? sanatanadharma Mar 2020 #30
The more who die, the less pressure on social programs. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #34
Somone gave him the idea, he internalized it and it's over, done, final. degage Mar 2020 #31

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)
1. If he could just re-open his own properties, he's might lose interest in the rest.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:10 PM
Mar 2020

It's always about him, him, him.

StarryNite

(9,446 posts)
4. He wants to cull the herd
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:31 PM
Mar 2020

Less old people, less people with health issues, less paid out in SS and Medicare. He sees this as a win. He wants a lot of us dead.

bdamomma

(63,852 posts)
8. He wants people to die
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

and he just does not care. Will his followers die for him??? I suppose they would. Ignorance at its highest.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
20. He'll kill a lot of healthcare workers in the process as well, especially since there was
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

NO planning by the federal government to stockpile PPE. Many hospitals will be unable to provide care for ANY health emergency, health insurance premium will skyrocket, the financial impact on businesses will be extended.

Trump is a sociopath to even suggest this, and a STUPID sociopath at that.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
5. They're coming up with insane ways to justify it
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:34 PM
Mar 2020

Bringing up car accident deaths. Saying a bad economy will lead to suicides. Blah blah blah.

I don't think he has the power to over rule the states, but he's trying to make the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people OK. It's sick and it's evil.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
7. He may not have the power to overrule the states
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:36 PM
Mar 2020

but he doesn't need to. His MAGA cult will start breaking themselves out of isolation, making it difficult on governors and authorities to maintain it and likely sparking chaos once it becomes Trump vs. Governors over the economy.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
6. How does the economy even function well (or at all)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:34 PM
Mar 2020

if there are too many sick/dead people to run it? Trump obviously isn't thinking that a pile of dead bodies would be BAD for his-relection. Nobody else will even care about the economy no matter how "good" it is doing.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. SInce about 1980,
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:42 PM
Mar 2020

the economy has functioned well for the rich. The US mainstream media pretends otherwise, but when they speak of "the economy" doing well, they are speaking of Wall Street doing well.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
23. I can't even imagine Wall Street working well
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:59 PM
Mar 2020

with all of us peons they actually depend on too sick to work or dead

eleny

(46,166 posts)
11. Not "increasingly" - He's been stalling since January
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:41 PM
Mar 2020

He didn't want to do anything from the start because of the markets.

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
13. ♫♫ So it's one two three, what are we hiding for?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:42 PM
Mar 2020

♫♫Donald Trump don't care about you,
Next stop is ICU.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
21. Consider that for Trump, and for many business leaders,
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

there is no long range plan beyond the next quarter. And given what we already know and see regarding climate change, this obsession with short term gain is suicidal.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
22. Trump is not concerned with others dying.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

Especially if he is suffering economically from the quarantine.

sanatanadharma

(3,707 posts)
30. We all die, but why the killing frenzy?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:34 PM
Mar 2020

We all die. It is the unresolved reality of humanity.
Every death is different; every death is singular even when masses go together.

If an elderly priest says "leave me, save the young", so be it perhaps noble in dying.
If a grand parents wishes to remain with the grand kids, so be it equally in living.

We all die.
We do not all choose to kill.
The killing frenzy of the regressive-republican-conservative-tribe is frightening.

Death panels, wheelchairs and cliffs, seem to be the Cliff Notes to capitalism 101

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
34. The more who die, the less pressure on social programs.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 05:50 PM
Mar 2020

The more who die before retiring, less pressure.

 

degage

(103 posts)
31. Somone gave him the idea, he internalized it and it's over, done, final.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:49 PM
Mar 2020

He has clearly decided that there will be less fallout from re-opening everything than keeping it shut. There is no going back when a person like Trump makes that sort of internal, decision. His "gut" tells him he's correct and he will go with that over anything anyone says.

I feel very bad for all the people and families who will be collateral damage due to this.

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