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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould you be re-infected by CV19 after suffering and surviving it?
Why would it be a one-time event with immunity for future events? You can get the flu more than once.
Can anyone provide an article about this?
FBaggins
(26,743 posts)You can catch the flu multiple times because there are lots of flu viruses. Youre not reinfected by the same one.
Kaleva
(36,307 posts)Experts not sure but it may be possible
"According to Justin Lessler, an associate professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, reinfection is possible with other coronaviruses -- and may be with COVID-19."
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/03/06/Experts-unsure-if-cured-COVID-19-patients-are-reinfected-or-relapsed/8101583529793/
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/14/world-health-organisation-questions-uk-coronavirus-approach-12397312/?ito=cbshare
no_hypocrisy
(46,117 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,057 posts)...say never about something like this. Even something as fundamental as gravity applies.
If I hold a quarter & let it go, we all agree it will fall every time. Quantum mechanics says there's a probability that it won't. Now, the odds are infinitesimally small so nobody lives love ng enough to test it. Could take billions of years.
But, we could still not say never.
Same here. Probably really applies to those with compromised immune systems.
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)are only beginning to be incorporated (mainly overseas) as we have not set approved a serologic (blood) test to measure antibodies in those currently or formerly ANTIGEN positive (RT-PCR positive for virus nucleic acid). We know antibody is produced but the longevity and levels of protection are not clear.
That said, there is every reason to believe that immunity will be conferred and at least somewhat lasting. Other coronaviruses (e.g., SARS) and those of animals typically show a reasonable immunity following natural infection and those of dogs and cattle ( sufficient to produce vaccines.
A longer answer:
1) Always before we created a serologic (antibody test) and for viral infections could show 4x rise in antibodies (and early rise in IgM with later persistence of IgG). The focus on antigen testing now means we haven't had an antibody blood test. One such test was developed and starting to be in use overseas, but we really dont have a handle on it.
2) Those case reports of pts. who recovered, tested neg on PCR, only to develop symptoms and test positive again later are most likely those who never cleared infection to begin with (lab error, immune system deficiencies, etc) but without antibody tests it was hard to say. Generally other Coronaviruses in humans and animals do produce extended immunity although their ability to mutate may have an impact on duration.
3) an overseas producer of a serologic antibody test is in heavily impacted Telluride, CO right now testing nearly the entire population and will repeat in two weeks. This will be the first and best community prevalence data. I only hope they will then pick some larger communities and hospitals to test alongside the antigen tests.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)This article is worth the read, rich with details, by a guy who worked on AIDS early:
https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/tip-iceberg-virologist-david-ho-bs-74-speaks-about-covid-19
Once you become infected with the virus, can you get it again?
There are a few anecdotes from China about re-infection but, if you look at those reports carefully, they're not well-documented. It could be that folks just continued to shed virus from the initial infection. Only one study was formally done and it is not a human study. It's a macaque study. They infected macaques with this virus, then waited until the monkeys recovered and tried to re-infect them. They could not. This just came out in the past few days. That bodes well for human immunity.
We have now looked at a lot of serum from convalescent individuals and those serum samples have antibodies against the so-called spike protein of the virus. That's the protein that sits on the surface of the virus particle. By tightly binding, the antibody could neutralize the virus. Once an infected person develops antibodies, there should be protective immunity for quite some time. That's why we need to buy time for immunity to develop in the population.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Is already out there , and causing problems , so I don't think counting on it not effecting you again might not be so good. Also wasn't there something on a completely different virus that trump refused to allow intl to tell Congress about not long ago? I saw that article somewhere on DU about that.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Tells you antibodies are produced and can be detected.
MFM008
(19,814 posts)Id survive Covid 19 and run into Covid 20.