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A new survey provided exclusively to Salon shows the Minnesota congresswoman's lead down to just 2 points
Despite her national fan base and a massive war chest, Rep. Michele Bachmann may be in more danger than most suspect, with a new poll showing her lead diminished to just two points. Independent voters have swung against her by nearly 20 points in just two months, from a 4 percent advantage to a 15 point disadvantage. The internal poll, conducted by Democratic pollsters Greenberg Quinlan Rosner at the behest of Democrat Jim Graves campaign and shared with Salon, shows that Bachmanns favorability rating has tumbled since their last survey in mid-June, and finds Graves gaining ground with independents as his name recognition grows.
Overall, the poll shows Bachmann leading Graves 48 46 percent, within the margin of error. The race has moved significantly among independents, with a 20-point net shift toward Graves, from a 41 45 percent disadvantage in June to a 52 37 percent lead now. Among independents, Bachmanns favorability rating has slipped 4 points while her unfavorability rating has jumped 7 points. Overall, shes viewed mostly negatively. Among all voters, 40 percent give her a positive job rating, while a sizable 57 percent give her a negative one, with a plurality of 35 percent giving the most negative answer possible poor.
Graves campaign manager (and son) Adam Graves told Salon that the numbers show his candidate is well positioned to beat Bachmann. Obviously, were very excited about it. The first thing thats notable is that obviously her recent comments, the stories that shes created for herself, have really hurt her among folks in the middle, he said. Bachmann, who had tried to keep a lower profile after aborting her presidential bid, grabbed headlines this summer for her implication that Muslims in the U.S. government may be secret agents of the Muslim Brotherhood.
http://www.salon.com/2012/09/10/poll_bachmann_in_danger//
Jim Graves for Congress
We are thrilled to report this news: "The race has moved significantly among independents, with a 20-point net shift toward Graves."
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I am not a fan of Washington in general, but these people have made things 100x worse with their ignorance and asshattery.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,045 posts)Booster
(10,021 posts)pink-o
(4,056 posts)how's Wayne Powell doing in VA, anyway?
Astazia
(262 posts)Cha
(297,723 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)the list is endless!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,234 posts)Grover Norquist might get drowned in a bath tub.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)more of that wide eyed, distance stare...
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Just like Bachmann, a vapid stare
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Squinch
(51,021 posts)Of course we're talking about the weasel that none of the other weasel's like.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Thegonagle
(806 posts)With Walker, it looks like there's nothing inside. Nobody's home, and most of the lights have burned out.
With Bachmann, somebody's home and the lights burn brightly, unfortunately the person who's home is F---ING CRAZY.
whathehell
(29,095 posts)mike dub
(541 posts)I was driving to the Minneapolis airport yesterday and I saw an "I Stand With Scott Walker" bumper sticker on a Minnesota-tagged pickup truck. But *no Rmoney/Ryan sticker to be found on same said vehicle. Found it really hilarious that a guy would have a Walker sticker on his truck (Wisconsin's Walker doesn't even represent Minnesota), yet *not bother to represent for the national rethug prez / vp ticket as well by also sticking an Rmoney/Lyan sticker on there...
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Getting rid of that ignorant troll would be fabulous.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)and take Joe Walsh, Alan West, and the rest of the teabaggers with her.
Mister Ed
(5,944 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)TeamPooka
(24,259 posts)Response to sasha031 (Original post)
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treestar
(82,383 posts)That district needs to get a grip.
sasha031
(6,700 posts)this would be absolutely wonderful,
treestar
(82,383 posts)Her insanity is off the charts!
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)as a member of the human race is a DISGRACE! We need to get behind Rob Zerban too. What a real treat it would be to send Ryan out into the economy he's helped shatter.
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)No I'm kidding - Bachmann out of Congress would be a very, very good thing. Go Graves!
Tushon
(18 posts)Just like Palin did, as a FOX pundit/catchall bullshitter.
She has been a Fox News contributor since 2010, reportedly earning a cool $1 million a year. But Sherman wrote that this may be coming to an end shortly, due to Palin's sinking ratings power.
JohnnyRingo
(18,650 posts)That's why states gerrymander to put the seats in their control. They almost have to get caught robbing a bank to turn the vote against them. Here in Ohio Jim Traficant got caught red handed stealing our tax money, and he still picked up 18,000 votes while running from his prison cell.
As I see it, that it's such a close race should be worrisome to Bachmann.
Good luck Minnesota.
BumRushDaShow
(129,543 posts)and now that district (the 7th, which had been won by Sestak and then went back to a rethug) has been gerrymandered into a configuration that may still put it in play again ironically, considering what they had to do to redden it up again.
This is the wild configuration -
http://www.philly.com/philly/multimedia/Pas_Seventh_Congressional_District.html
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)The redistricting put a bunch of sane Republicans into the 6th district. Sane Republicans who love the fiber optic service that the stimulus bill brought to our county. This is why Bachmann has been quiet lately. Her crazy shit won't fly in this heavily populated district.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Michelle Bachmann is a buffoon, a national embarrassment.
indepat
(20,899 posts)Indykatie
(3,697 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)That said, I believe that she lose when I see it, until then GO GRAVES!!!
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)A congressinal representative is supposed to be working for constituents in the district, not chasing all over the country being the "darling" of the right wing media. Are there public works projects coming to her district? Is she sponsoring or co-sponsoring legislation that supports the people of Minnesota? Is she acting in support of citizens and local businesses in dealing with the federal government?
If not, even the nut jobs should demand better representation.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)where Jesus would then be picking the new china pattern.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)If she loses, she and creepy husband will be just fine...
sucking down government dollars for their farm and brainwashing clinic business.
She's done well, feeding at the Taxpayer Trough and it's time for this vulture to GO AWAY.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)I have a bad feeling she would slither back to DC as a lobbyist.
IggleDoer
(1,186 posts)Ever notice how few Congress critters who lose actually leave Washington?
randome
(34,845 posts)...to question her mental stability.
lobodons
(1,290 posts)How deep red must her district be to be losing Independents by 16 points and still holding a 2 point lead overall. Damn.
gaspee
(3,231 posts)How that loon keeps getting elected. I know nothing about that district. Is it full of loons like her? Or are they all 2 issues voters? By two issues, I mean anti-choice and anti-Muslim.
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)It "horseshoes" around the Twin Cities (very much DFL territory) and runs quite a ways from West to East. In the West is St. Cloud, a very conservative city with some serious racial issues in its past and present, and is mostly rural or small cities/towns after that.
Out-state Minnesota - that is, anything outside the Twin Cities metro and Duluth - is pretty red. The Twin Cities suburbs have been trending red in the past decade, but is going more purple recently.
But the MN 6th is a strange creature, geographically. When it was believed that Minnesota would lose one seat in the U.S. House after the 2010 census, many believed that the MN 6th would be the one to go.
On the upside, after the 2010 census, the state re-drew the districts and Bachmann no longer lives in the district she represents - she is now represented by DFLer Betty McCollum.
Her district is the white flight suburbs of Minneapolis/St Paul.
I lived in the Twin Cities from 1999 - 2006,
and bicycled everywhere, even during the Minnesota Winter.
Going North/NE out of Minneapolis, a line is crossed that is palpable.
In the area around White Bear Lake to Stillwater,
I've seen tons of "Rush is Right", and "I (heart) Jason Lewis" bumper stickers
in addition to numerous Rebel Flags.
It is a beautiful area, and the bike path to Stillwater is one of my favorites,
but it is like entering a time Machine, complete with "US OUT of UN" signs in front yards.
It IS bizarre and creepy, being so close to one of the very best multicultural, Liberal cities in the USA.
No offense to any DUers who live in that area.
I'm sure there are many solid Liberals who live there too.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)There are conservatives up there who probably think Bachmann is "too liberal".
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)Not that there are not scary weird conservatives among conservatives in White Bear Lake and other NE and E Twin Cities suburbs ... there are ... but no where near the numbers that are up there.
That district was drawn to be a right-leaning stronghold.
wellstone dem
(4,460 posts)Check out Anoka sherburne and wright if you want to blame someone.
dflprincess
(28,082 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)F You in November!
Get them out of there! Even if the Gopers still retained control of Congress, we might be able to get something done if those anti-government thugs get out of our government.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Patiod
(11,816 posts)Can you imagine a congress that's both Bachmann AND Cantor-free?
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)to debate him until a week before the election
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)for the Dems, I think. She appeals most to her base when acting stupid in front of people.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)Jackpot fishy poopy pants!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)for self promotion in place of representation.
CRK7376
(2,203 posts)I hope for Minnesota and the nation that the good people up in Bachmanns district throw her out of office. What an absolute buffon! Now if my fellow NW North Carolinians could throw out our own buffon - Virginia Foxx I would be estatic!!!!!
navarth
(5,927 posts)she is so nuts looking she makes Michelle Batshit look normal. She and Louie Gohmert are my personal candidates for Stupidest Republican in Congress.
catbyte
(34,458 posts)I wouldn't put it past that nut to only agree to one after the election. If there is any sanity in the world, she & Walsh & West will be toast on November 6. I would also love to see Cantor, Ryan, & Boner on that list too but I am afraid that's too much to hope for.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)ruffburr
(1,190 posts)I see that Ryan Is learning well from his master flip flooper, yesterday lyin Ryan said states should decide pot laws today he denounces that stand, Yesterday on msm mitty said he liked some of obama care and wont change some health care laws and then a few hrs latter on a conservitve show says he will do away with all obama care laws, HOW DO THESE CRAZIES GET INTO OFFICE ??? Get them out forever LIARS and PSYCHO"S
gordianot
(15,245 posts)Romney has no core beliefs outside of self profit and Ryan depends on lies and hyperbole. They have NO message outside of opposition to anything done, uttered or considered by Obama. this is what you get by positioning yourself as a pure reactionary. They really do not flip flop the same way Kerry was accused of doing on Iraq, there is not anything they represent.
libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)MineralMan
(146,333 posts)I hope everyone will remember that for the next four years. Graves is a middle-of-the-road Democrat. Some might call him a blue dog Democrat. If he manages to beat Bachmann in that heavily Republican district, I will be forever grateful. Graves will vote with the Democratic caucus in Congress, but he's probably not going to be a constant progressive voice.
A blue dog is always better than a rabid dog. Truly. It's a lesson we forgot in 2010. It has hurt us all.
My Congresswoman is Betty McCollum. She is a solid, staunch progressive, and the people in her district chose her for that reason. Michelle Bachmann's district is far from similar to the district I live in. We're all working to replace Bachmann. When and if we do, we need to remember who she is and help her replacement out when we can.
Blue Owl
(50,514 posts)Besides stockpiling up a huge reserve of crazy?
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Her crazy drags down the national dialog immensely. She really needs to be told by the voters to find another career.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)that anybody would vote for her.
mountain grammy
(26,655 posts)I will work to make the Obama victory so huge, these right wing dangerous congresspeople are voted out of office. There are quite a few of them that represent their own narrow ideology. It's time to value good government again! government is not "the problem" unless it is selfish government.
Alduin
(501 posts)He's a nice guy. He seems genuine and very intelligent.
I'm excited Bachmann may lose!
mike dub
(541 posts)I've heard that Jim's been out campaigning Big-time these past several weeks/months --at the State Fair, parades, picnics, etc.
My parents' summer lake property/cabin is actually two doors down from Jim Graves' summer cabin ("up north", as some of the natives call it) in north-central Minnesota. He IS a great guy. My wife and I usually see him every summer when we make it up to Minnesota for some vacation/lake time.
We were up there this past week, and missed seeing him because he was down in his home district campaigning. His district is 2 1/2 hours south of his 'up north' property.
Anyway, Jim is a great guy and businessman (truly self-made), and I hope he sends Bachmann packing. I've donated to his campaign online, although we're from nowhere near Minnesota.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I don't think it's fair. She doesn't just tarnish the image of her district. She tarnishes the whole state of Minnesota. I really don't like that. I would rather be known as the state that elected Al Frankin or the state of Charlie Brown. Anyone but Bachmann. Bachmann makes me miss Jesse Ventura a great deal.
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)After the 2010 census, the districts were redrawn and she now finds herself being represented by DFLer Betty McCollum!
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Oh that is too funny. She might regret not living in her district now.
SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)In Minnesota, you are required to live in the state to run for the U.S. House, but not required to live in that particular district.
But, you can only vote for representation for the district in which you live.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Honest to God, the rest of the world, as well as the entire nation, are sickened by the display of lunatics running the asylum. This clown, dumb-ass, idiot NEVER should have been allowed to Washington for ONE DAY, let alone two terms. Joe Walsh, Louie Gohmert, Steve King, Allan West...and the rest of these complete fool/clowns that have embarrassed this nation with their presence are a complete disgrace to the legacy of Congress. Such pathetic excuses for politicians. These are the sorts of idiots that help America lose all confidence in our government.
However, they DO represent "the people"...and we are NOT the smartest, most proud nation in the world these days.
SansACause
(520 posts)Even if she gets beat, she'll be making $1m/yr at FOX News as a commentator.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)instead of stalking reindeer like Caribou Barbie, she can travel the country stalking Muslims as they infiltrate the US government.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)like hiding in the bushes like Laugh In's Arty Johnson to spy on her opponent's rally so she can reveal the deep dark secrets about him.
Whoops, she's already done that.
Tnliberallee
(59 posts)Jim Graves for Congress
harpslay
(61 posts)RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)FiggyJay
(55 posts)Good-bye, Michele!! I wish I could help vote her out. But if you think that she is batshit crazy, you oughta check out the Republican (Allen Quist) running against Democrat Tim Walz in Minnesota's 1st District. Hoo Doggies!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)A long while back he got the Goop endorsement and primaried incumbent Republican governor Arne Carlson. Carlson crushed him in the primary and won re-election. Arne was recently booted out of the Republican party for acting like a sane, reasonable and rational adult. He was a thoroughly decent governor in the MN tradition, but once the buybull crazies took over the party he was intolerable to them.
Blue Owl
(50,514 posts)You gotta admit, she's amassed a giant pile of batshit over the years -- and now, it's coming home to roost...
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)But I'll hold my breath. I'm sure whoever the Independent Party of MN is running as spoiler will make up the difference. Happens all the time with her elections.
Mister Ed
(5,944 posts)I read it in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune two or three weeks ago.
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/166595356.html
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)DFW
(54,445 posts)The whacko right tossed out Mean Jean Schmidt on their own in the primaries.
Now it's time for the voters of Bachmann's district to grow up.
mzmolly
(51,006 posts)Go Mr. Graves!
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)She needs to get Marcus back home from where ever he hangs out to get away
from her, and get him in front of the cameras again. He's irresistible1
existentialist
(2,190 posts)"The Republicans had the perfect candidate, and that was me."
Michelle Bachmann
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)That's one and the same thing: a handful of fascist billionaires with a visceral hatred of democracy.
It would be a delight if Mrs. Bachmann goes down once and for all, along with all the other tea partiers from the class of 2010 and the ones like Bachmann and Steve King who were already there to roll out the welcome mat for the newcomers.
While I am aware that Americans are not as aware of current affairs as voters in a democratic state as they ought to be and that many consume an unhealthy diet of disinformation and misinformation from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, it is heartening to see that voters in this election are aware enough of who's really dangerous to ignore the propaganda on the airwaves paid for by the Koch brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Foster Friess and other similar reprobates.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Please, let that psychopath be gone from public life.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Is she gonna be buried?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)After an Obama re-election, the person I most want to see beat is her.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Thegonagle
(806 posts)If voter ID (and provisional ballots) passes this year, my statement will be up for debate. For the time being, the results can be trusted to reflect the true will of the people.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)On edit, how are the ballot counts tabulated and reported?
Thegonagle
(806 posts)Machines must be secured from physical and electronic tampering, and are not allowed to have any wireless communication ability.
Precinct judges are always from at least two different parties.
Paper ballots are secured for possible later review. Ballots are always handled by at least two judges of different parties.
Electronic results are not considered official until paper printouts are reconciled by bi-partisan state canvassing board.
Very close machine results in any race are not valid until recounted by hand.
Random post-election auditing by hand verifies accuracy of machine count. Each county hand-recounts specific races at a minimum of two precincts. Inaccuracies (more than a few votes in most cases) trigger further audits, although that's never been necessary to the best of my knowledge. (Hence, why I believe it's a good system.)
It's a practical way to quickly report the results from 3 million or so votes, with checks, balances and safeguards all written into law.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)toddwv
(2,830 posts)All in danger?
A loss for these 3 would be SPECTACULAR!
Of course, Fox News will probably hire them, but still... I'd rather watch them spewing their trash on Fox as "consultants" than "representatives" of the People.
Omaha Steve
(99,741 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)That the opinion of an idiot is not worth the same as an intelligent and educated person.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)When voters in her region got to hear how coocoo for Cocoa Puffs this fool really was, they backed off of her for this election.
But there's always that sad 40% that back these goonballs no matter what.
THAT'S the story here.
John Lucas
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And this bugged eyed Woman is no longer in our Congress collecting OUR TAX PAYER funded salary and benefits!!
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Fun times.
Crowman1979
(3,844 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)there are plenty of her ravings to be cobbled into a couple 30-sec ads that paint her as deranged.
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)Stewland
(163 posts)I live in Minnesota and I just contributed to Graves campaign. He looks good to the voters because he is from the district ,is a self made business man, is a practicing Catholic and carefully avoids making statements on the marriage amendment or the voter I.D. Issue. that being said I have family members who live there and they are a scary kind of conservative. The kind that won't listen to reason or bother to check out facts. Some of them are racist and anti Muslim . Ironically ,this area was a solid blue just three decades ago. This is Lake Woebegone territory and It's a very conservative Roman Catholic area with Stearns County Syndrome being a factor in its right ward tilt.
Silvernaire
(13 posts)There is Ronpaul forums from where Ron Paul and Michelle Bachmann can still win the Presidential elections because they can reach millions over the internet.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com
Rockin Cowgirl
(1 post)I don't doubt you when you say your relatives think that way. But keep in mind that Congressional district lines cut Stearns in half with the more urban St. Cloud in Bachmann's district and the more rural in my district, the 7th. Both of her last Democratic challengers have been from Stearns County. Graves(love him, hope he wins) was born and raised there. If you want scary, go to Bachmann's real strength, the religious right highway(U.S Hwy 12) corridor through Wright Co. There are actually Constitution Party members living there. Like I've said before, they want to go back to the 50's-the 1850's. Think Ron Paul's economic and foreign policy, but instead of his social libertarianism(which I sometimes agree with) they replace it with extreme social conservatism. They want to put biblical beliefs into the U.S. Constitution in the same way countries like Saudi Arabia have put Sharia law into theirs. Doesn't sound very Christian to me. They've come to the McLeod Co.(also conservative) Fair in previous years selling their bumpers stickers and I just walk by shaking my head.