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Does Mnuchin have any idea how many people can't get or cash a government check?? (Original Post) Grasswire2 Mar 2020 OP
Yes he does. Wellstone ruled Mar 2020 #1
yes, there's that. nt Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #9
I don't grant him the benefit of the doubt of being oblivious. RockRaven Mar 2020 #2
They have no idea because they have never been in that position. Arkansas Granny Mar 2020 #3
Of course. But let's face it, they're outnumbered something Hortensis Mar 2020 #4
When they say "every American" what exactly does that mean? lettucebe Mar 2020 #5
"Every" American may only mean those who filed tax returns last year? Thomas Hurt Mar 2020 #6
That's what Bush did, and it leaves me out...nt Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #12
So what do you propose? Send cash? DrToast Mar 2020 #7
I don't know the answer. Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #8
If the most vulnerable people can't get or cash a government check, who does government assistance hughee99 Mar 2020 #10
Do you think that homeless folk are gettting government checks? Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #11
Do you think only the homeless people are vulnerable? hughee99 Mar 2020 #14
NO Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #17
They can, and there's a lot more of those people than there are homeless people. hughee99 Mar 2020 #20
Mnuchin doesn't have a clue about anyfuckingthing. spanone Mar 2020 #13
Maybe I'm used to living in a big city Polybius Mar 2020 #15
So your suggestion? Walk around handing out cash? GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #16
How was it done when GWB did two giveaways? Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #18
Pre Tea Party. As bad as republicans were then they were nothing like what we have now. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #19

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
2. I don't grant him the benefit of the doubt of being oblivious.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:12 PM
Mar 2020

He doesn't care about such people, nor does Trump.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Of course. But let's face it, they're outnumbered something
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:13 PM
Mar 2020

300:1 or even more. You don't do nothing because any possible effort can't be 100% effective. his This NOT an argument for that criminal, likely sociopathic scumbag, but since he's involved in doing something, no matter how imperfect, technically speaking it puts him way ahead of everyone doing nothing of any help to anyone.

As for those others, those who don't maintain addresses at friends' and relatives' addresses, or p.o. boxes to receive what assistance they do get, will require other efforts, probably most of them by the local governments who are always face-to-face with the realities of these residents, and who will hope to receive federal funding, but not necessarily.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
5. When they say "every American" what exactly does that mean?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:23 PM
Mar 2020

They are not going to send a check to every American by any stretch. How exactly do the homeless receive theirs? Very good question and needs to be addressed

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
8. I don't know the answer.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:27 PM
Mar 2020

Some people don't even have IDs, you know, and don't have the necessary documents to get a state ID. Certified copies of birth certificates cost $$. Many people don't have addresses.

Even if you do get a check delivered to your hands, how do you cash it without an ID? Perhaps post offices could cash them, as they will do for U.S. Postal Money Orders.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
10. If the most vulnerable people can't get or cash a government check, who does government assistance
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:29 PM
Mar 2020

go to?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
11. Do you think that homeless folk are gettting government checks?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:58 PM
Mar 2020

Tell me.

People who sleep in the bushes, or in their old cars, or behind a row of trash containers?

Really?

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
14. Do you think only the homeless people are vulnerable?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:04 PM
Mar 2020

Tell me.

People who can't afford food, medicine, and maybe just lost their jobs but aren't homeless (yet)?

Really?

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
17. NO
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:09 AM
Mar 2020

But people who have addresses and IDs and maybe just lost their jobs can receive and process government checks.

Duh.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
20. They can, and there's a lot more of those people than there are homeless people.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020

Yes, they should absolutely come up with a plan to help homeless people as well, but that doesn't mean the plan to issue government checks is a bad one.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. So your suggestion? Walk around handing out cash?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:55 PM
Mar 2020

It pretty obvious that it will go to people who filed tax returns as it is being framed, by democrats as well as republicans, as a way to help working people affected by the slowdown caused by the virus.

I’m skeptical even that will get done. The Republican hard core are terrified this will become a camels nose under the tent thing. That the government helping people rather businesses will be popular. Which it is and will be. Opposition is rapidly building against it.

No way I see the Senate passing this. Or even bringing it for a vote.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
18. How was it done when GWB did two giveaways?
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:10 AM
Mar 2020

I don't really know.

And I don't have a solution. Just pointing out that Mnuchin doesn't have a clue.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Pre Tea Party. As bad as republicans were then they were nothing like what we have now.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:18 AM
Mar 2020

Back then they talked the line but when shit hit the fan they did what they thought they needed to do to survive.

But they are batshit crazy now. Between the libertarian Koch types controlling the money and the religious and racist nuts doing the voting they will not allow this.

Ironically, trump has a better read on this than they do. He feels his support dripping away and wants to do something big. Which still won’t save him. But he knows there is trouble. The ones really running the show will go to the mat to prevent doing something that will prove helping the people is better for the economy than funneling money to big business.

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