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Published 1 min ago on March 17, 2020
By Sky Palma
As the international response to the coronavirus ramps up, the inevitable damage to the world economy is unavoidable. While common sense and simple human decency would suggest that stemming the spread of infections at the price of the economy is worth it, there are some, namely conservative voices in America, who dont exactly agree.
Writing in The Week this Tuesday, Noah Millman cites the example of CNBC host Rick Santelli, who said earlier this month that maybe wed be just better off if we gave [coronavirus] to everybody, and then in a month it would be over because the mortality rate of this probably isnt going to be any different if we did it that way than the long-term picture. According to Santelli, otherwise wed be wreaking havoc on global and domestic economies.
Millman writes that this same philosophy is what caused the UK to come under an avalanche of criticism for its response to the outbreak. The logic for this line of thinking says that the elderly are not the economys most productive citizens, and the economic impact of them dying earlier might even be positive. Also, reserving more urgent medical treatment for the young and economically viable would prevent the health system from being overwhelmed.
I hope nobody would be comfortable making an argument like that explicitly, Millman writes. But it lurks in the background of the all-purpose dismissiveness voiced by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity about the seriousness of the virus (who are following the Presidents lead in doing so), or in pieces like this one by Heather Macdonald at the conservative cultural journal The New Criterion.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/some-conservatives-willing-to-sacrifice-the-elderly-to-save-the-economy-from-coronavirus-op-ed/
These assholes that use the airwaves, ie radio channels, should have there fucking license pulled................this is why the Fairness Doctrine should be brought back, so that these Clear Channel and other oligarphys are broken up...............this mentality that one group produces more than another reminds me of all the Pink Floyd album's................
And these fuckers are making millions .........................
FM123
(10,053 posts)Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)maybe this is not such a bad idea. We could ourselves of all theses scumbags once and for all.
Maraya1969
(22,483 posts)I bet they don't think they are in the same barrel though because they probably have really good health insurance. As if that is going to matter if the whole country is sick.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)He'd be one of the first to go.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)asthma. And there've been reports of younger people with no comorbidities in the ICU on ventilators.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)They likely have a mini-icu set up that only they have access to. With ventilators, drugs, ppe, and everything else they would need if they got ill. Probably in-home already.
And of course a private army of nurses and tech's.
It's what their billions can buy. It's why they are so blatantly arrogant towards others.
machoneman
(4,007 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,876 posts)I can't believe that some actually wish their parents and other elderly will just die.
It saddens me greatly.
My parents have both been gone for almost 20 years now and there is not a day that goes by that I do not think of them and wish they were still here. They were members of the Greatest Generation. They were proud Americans that loved this county. This whole thing going on now would break their hearts and minds.
Shame on anyone that wishes the elderly and those will illnesses will just go away and die.
& recommend.
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)that there are a lot of Young Republicans out there that would be happy if their parents and grand parents croaked and left them a ton of money so they wouldn't have to work and could enjoy the good life for the rest of their pathetic parasitic lives......
DSandra
(999 posts)What do you expect?
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)I seem to recall a lot of chaos pandemonium generated about DEATH PANELS in regards to public healthcare access.
Hmmm. Who was that again? Was it the people who are now proclaiming themselves members of the DEATH PANEL BOARD?
It sounds a tad hypocritical. They wouldn't do that, would they? They wouldn't rely on that out of expediency and for the sake of conspiracy theory, manipulative influencing?
So, it's family values MINUS old, worthless Grandma and Grandpa. I guess it is updated as needs be. That's conservative of them.
Traildogbob
(8,756 posts)Pro Life?
Atticus
(15,124 posts)On the Discovery channel. We've "lost a step" and so, when the lions come looking for dinner, the rest of the herd---the young and healthy and swift--- naturally stampede away and before we know it, Simba has us by the throat.
It's just "nature's way", ya see. Some call it "thinning the herd". After all, we're just like the animals.
Af least, some of us are.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)The nujobs don't care how many people die, certainly don't want any socialist program coming between people and the god's wrath, or it is all a conspiracy to make people panic and attack Dear Leader.
I have to take the don't care thing back, they are, in spite of the virus still worried about fetuses.
There will have to hundreds of thousands dead in this country before they wake up.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)This is have and have-not thinking. Republicans and so-called conservatives have stoked this BS for years, telling young people that Social Security wont be there for them. And, saying its the old folks they are paying for dragging them down.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Now the cons can cash in that "virtuous" sanctimonious chip and proceed to throw grandma, grandpa, great-auntie & uncle and the entire bunch of elderly worthless eaters over the cliff. Guess they tend to vote too much!!
DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)they all continue to suck the money out of the Government's funds with all that SSI and Medicare shit
We should have all that money to give even more tax cuts and benefits to the Uber Wealthy and Corporations.
NOT LOL, extremely close to the truth.......
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)took us past the screaming TREASON point the first days of the Reagan/Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld administration.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)Anyone who doesn't think that the vast majority of 'Muricans are just useless eater cogs to these cons hasn't been paying attention.
Captain Zero
(6,811 posts)They may talk about cutting it right now, but if they could get rid of social security that payroll tax would be cemented into place and get streamed into their pockets one way or another. Forever.
LaMouffette
(2,036 posts)seen by their willingness to "cull the herd" through sacrificing the elderly, and by their gleeful realization that they might finally be able to kill Social Security and Medicare by starving these programs via payroll taxcuts.
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)I'm not surprised they're pushing an agenda that reeks of eugenics.
AllaN01Bear
(18,261 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)zap these idiots.
Many years ago, I watched a video of a discussion between two young men who, even at that time, favored putting the elderly and compromised adults in a separate unit to die naturally with no treatment, whatsoever, to cut down on health costs. I was much younger then, but this video made me so angry, I immediately fired off a letter to my congressmen to let them know how cruel and selfish this was and that I expected them to think carefully about ever considering such a proposal.
I'm much older now and would be in that group shoved off into a corner to die.
I would give anything to remember the names of those two, but their names will come to me...if and when I most need them.
NNadir
(33,525 posts)They really shouldn't screw with the people who keep these assholes in power if they want to retain the power to be assholes.
Blecht
(3,803 posts)Unwert
Until the Nazis used it for people destined for the camps, the word was rather innocuous. Now Germans go out of their way to use other words.
These fuckers talking about killing grandma for the good of the economy are no better than the Nazis.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Goebbels would be proud.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Shitposting and playing Call of Duty.
Talk about useless eaters.
shanti
(21,675 posts)is what they call us.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)If they lose seniors, there goes fox news and a good chunk of their base.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)in favor of more suburban/rural private hospitals. You can't get treated without insurance, and without prior authorization, which would magically be rationed to the "right" kinds of patients.
It won't just be all seniors that don't get the magic ticket to an icu bed. It will be select groups of all ages.
Grins
(7,218 posts)Maybe nutritious too, given all the vitamins they take...
Eat your parents! For America! (I meant to say Wall Street, but...you know)
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)And taxes for school districts. If they dont have a personal need for the tax, they are against it. F Santelli and the brood of children he put through public schools. Old people paid for that s- and now its time for them to enjoy a bit of peace if they can.
There are no more selfish people than there were last month or before nov 2016; theyre just making themselves known.
tanyev
(42,568 posts)Response to turbinetree (Original post)
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Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)or whatever it's called.
parhelion
(49 posts)This is the dumbed down randian, nietzschean and nazi philosophy propagated by right wing radio and Fox News that is practiced by McConnell and the Republicans and fully realized in the chaotic pseudo dictatorship of Trump.
Unbelievable that this perversion of Darwinism is still so pervasive in the 21st century.
These people are sociopathic monsters, who should be imprisoned, yet somehow they control our lives. For my sanity, I have to believe that a reckoning will come, and that Americans will wake up. What will it take? Perhaps this crisis will finally do it.
Yeah, right... Trump gave me $1000, hes got my vote - I can see it coming.
diva77
(7,643 posts)sakabatou
(42,157 posts)If you're not rich and donate to them, you're nothing to Republicans.