♦️UPDATE♦️ daughter with fever, severe fatigue, no appetite, headache and a slight cough for 5 days.

[Claritie Pixie]

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She was sent home from work after someone she's been training went home with a fever.

She got a fever 3 days later.

Since she doesn't meet the criteria for testing and there's been no documented community spread in Pittsburgh yet, she CANNOT get tested.

I mean - WTF?? How many people have symptoms like hers and can't get tested?

Keep her in your thoughts please. I just want her fever to break.
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UPDATE: after waiting in line for awhile at an incredibly busy drive through testing center, testing DENIED.

Reason - she is not short of breath and her 02 sats are 99.
They refused to test her and sent her home.
So much for valuable surveillance data, contact tracing and isolating infected people.

It's everywhere, we just aren't sure who because apparently you have to be severely ill and in need of a respirator or ventilator to get tested.

[theLJhog]

1. any respiratory distress

As long as her breathing is not impacted then she should be OK. OJ and liquids.

[Claritie Pixie]

5. No respiratory distress.

I'm monitoring her from 1500 miles away and she has instructions to go to the ER if she has chest tightness or she gets out of breath.

[klook]

20. Has she had a phone appointment with her doctor?

I did that when I had similar symptoms a couple of weeks ago, and they called in an order for a chest X-ray. I can get X-rayed over the next few weeks if congestion gets worse or I have shortness of breath. At this point, a week and a half after symptoms started, I’m doing better.

[mahina]

26. Thank God.

Wishing her health, and you, and peace. They’re always our kids right? Aloha.

[amuse bouche]

23. OJ? Why? it's mostly sugar, so in that regard, it's as bad as soda

[Hekate]

38. Fluids. Push fluids, for heaven's sake. Oranges are a natural fruit with vitamin C.

With a long or high fever, dehydration is a major concern.

[amuse bouche]

68. "for heaven's sake" "Oranges are a natural fruit with vitamin C." Except Oj in a box is crap

My..my so touchy. I'm an R.N. I think I know about fluids. Might as well tell them to drink soda

[cwydro]

133. Way to be snarky to someone who is only being helpful.

Seems like we could try some kindness right about now.

[amuse bouche]

149. "Way to be snarky to someone who is only being helpful"

Yes, I was just being helpful. They really are overdoing it aren't they?

It seems kindness is not a great virtue here.

[vlyons]

154. Let's give snarky a break

She is upset and frustrated and obstacles to getting a test for her daughter are probably very scary. I know how frustrated I get, when people simply can't help me remove stupid obstacles.

[cwydro]

158. I was talking to the other poster actually.

The one who hates orange juice so much.

[vlyons]

159. Perhaps you missed my point

Let's give EVERYONE a break. Let's forgive anyone, who snaps at us a break. Let's practice patience and kindness towards those, who are clearly upset.

[amuse bouche]

162. "The one who hates orange juice so much."

Someone hates sugar(it's pretty much poison to the body) not so much orange juice.

Clueless Interpretation.... It really is a weird game

[cwydro]

163. Oh hon, bless your heart.

We all get what you’re saying, kay?

[amuse bouche]

165. Your attempt at condescension is puerile and needs work

[wnylib]

139. What a charming bedside manner

Let's chalk it up to stress in these trying times.

Granted that o.j. has less nutrients than fresh oranges due to processing, but there is more to o.j. than sugar. Vitamin C, of course, but also flavonoids in the pulp and juice, vitamin A, folate, B6, calcium, magnesium, and potassium. Plus, it's a fluid.

I wouldn't write it off so easily.

[amuse bouche]

150. Indeed, the bedside manner of many posters here is crude, to say the least

[Act_of_Reparation]

40. ...

They're sick, not dieting. Jesus.

[amuse bouche]

71. Well Jesus won't help and neither will all that sugar

Sugar only increases inflammation.

[Act_of_Reparation]

138. Citation needed.

Orange juice contains anti-inflammatory flavonids like hesperidin and neringinen, and has been shown to mediate inflammatory response. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23417730

The research connecting sugar to increased inflammation and heart disease appears longitudinal in nature, looking at high-sugar diets over time. We're talking about a two-to-three week window when people typically consume far fewer calories than usual. The circumstances aren't even remotely similar. There's no reason to think drinking a glass or two of orange juice a day while you're sick is going to kill you. And it sure as shit isn't "as bad" as carbonated soft drinks that have little to no nutritional value whatsoever.

[amuse bouche]

156. No one said a glass or two of OJ would 'kill you'

The tendency to exaggerate to the point of hysteria on this thread is stunning.

Flavonoids can be found in a variety of teas. No 'citation' necessary

[Act_of_Reparation]

167. I assume you're familiar with hyperbole?

"No citation needed"? Lol. Ok. Run along, now.

[amuse bouche]

168. "I assume you're familiar with hyperbole?"

Indeed, and some around here are full of it

[Jamastiene]

136. Lol, I guess I need to come to this thread and take my beating too.

I recently bought a whole bag with multiple oranges in it. The horror? I guess I am going to food hell.

Oranges are apparently pure evil and anyone who partakes will be ganged up on and beaten to within an inch of their lives by people who will also hurl insults at them about their intelligence and everything else under the sun. I never knew oranges were the absolute most evil thing in the world.

[Act_of_Reparation]

140. Yeah, well. You read it on the internet.

So it must be true.

[wnylib]

141. I'm off to my last supplies trip today

before holing up. Those "evil oranges" are on my list, and will not be removed. The flavonoids alone are worth having, plus the natural C.

[Jamastiene]

143. I love having oranges occasionally.

Only on DU have I ever heard how evil they are. I cannot get over it. I guess we will be flogged and berated for it, but when the evil oranges kill me, I will die, happy, with a smile on my face, and full of orange juice from the oranges, lol.

[wnylib]

145. Nothing at all harmful about oranges

Unless you are diabetic and eat too many or drink too much juice. The flavonoids in o.j. are just what you need when sick.

[SCantiGOP]

42. OJ is excellent if you're sick

Loaded with Vitamin C, and all of the sugar in fruits is natural. If you are diabetic that can be a problem if you don’t take it into account with your insulin dosages.
Everything except fiber and protein is converted to sugar in your body so it can be used for energy by your cells.
Soda is processed sugar, so it is just empty calories with no vitamins.

My daughter is a diabetic nurse so I hear these lectures regularly.

[amuse bouche]

69. I'm an R.N. That's why I was questioning the advice

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OJ in a box is highly processed and does not resemble fresh fruit, even if it says otherwise

The only time Diabetics should go near OJ, is if their blood sugar crashes.

Even then, it is too easy for it to go the other way.

[SCantiGOP]

74. Don't want an argument, but

The Tropicana in my refrigerator says: Ingredients - Fresh squeezed oranges. That's it, no chemical, no preservatives. Google says fresh orange juice does not contain anything that didn't come out of the orange. You could make your own by picking oranges off a tree and squeezing them into a container.

[amuse bouche]

75. It's still highly processed and contains 6-8 teaspoons of sugar per cup. Sorry, it's not that great.

I lived next to a plant for a few years and knew people that worked there.

Yes you could pick and squeeze, but come on, sick people don't have the strength for that, let alone the trees

Teas are much better for hydration

[SCantiGOP]

77. It does not have 6-8 teaspoons of added processed sugar per cup

It has only the natural sugar that is in the orange.
The same kind of sugar that your body would create from pasta or bread or apples or bananas or anything that you eat (except for fiber and protein) so that the glucose can be used as fuel to keep your cells alive.

I really don't see any value in continuing this discussion. Maybe you are right, or maybe my daughter, who is a Certified Diabetes Educator and works with a diabetes dietitian, is correct.
Signing off, sorry we disagree

[amuse bouche]

83. " It does not have 6-8 teaspoons of added processed sugar per cup"

Never said it was added.

[Siwsan]

84. I actually double checked the OJ in my refrigerator. Ingredients: Orange Juice

Nothing else that wasn't already contained within the rind, save for the seeds. I'll risk it, sick or not.

[Ms. Toad]

106. Check the nutrition label.

The brand I checked had 22 grams of sugar per 8 oz. A teaspoon of sugar is 4 grams, so this particular brand (100% orange juice) has 5.5 teaspoons of sugar per cup.

An orange, by contrast, has 11 grams (so 2.75 teaspoons per average sized orange).

The general advice for is to eat, not drink, your fruits.

[Siwsan]

110. Well, one juiced orange won't fill a juice glass, but two will

At least not oranges I've juiced, and I have a heavy duty pressure juicer. Out of curiosity, I checked - there's no 'added' sugar in the 'not from concentrate' juice I buy.

Also, I have developed a habit of pouring juice over a glass full of ice or, going with half juice and half sparkling water. It's just more refreshing, IMHO.

And I do eat my fair share of citrus, too.

[Ms. Toad]

111. I didn't say added. I said to check the nutrition information.

Nutrition doesn't care whether the sugar is added or comes from the orange. Sugar is sugar, as far as your body is concerned.

The advice to eat your fruit rather than drink it is precisely because when you drink it you tend to consume multiple servings of it. Generally one piece of fruit is considered a serving. A glass of OJ is also considered a serving, but it has twice the sugar.

[Siwsan]

113. I did. And, really, it just isn't that critical of a thing, for me

I don't drink a whole lot of juice, and like I wrote, I tend to water it down, so I'm only consuming a half serving, anyway.

Admittedly, my favorite way is to juice my own. Something about that fresh pressed taste - yum.

[Ms. Toad]

115. Fresh pressed is better than bottled or boxed

You get all of the nutrients (which get lost even with the best processing in manufactured juice), so the balance is better between sugar and nutrients.

[Siwsan]

116. Fresh pressed always reminds me of my first trip to Florida

When we crossed the state line, there was a welcome station with fresh pressed juice. Holy Cow! I think it was from Valencia oranges - something I haven't seen, in ages.

My mouth still waters, remember that flavor.

[amuse bouche]

129. Thank You for jumping in

I was surprised it turned into such an issue. Again...Thanks for the assist

[Jamastiene]

135. I never knew oranges were wuch pure evil or

that anyone who eats them or drinks their juice should be ganged up on and flogged for it. I feel for ya. I didn't know oranges were evil either.

[amuse bouche]

151. "I never knew oranges were wuch pure evil"

"that anyone who eats them or drinks their juice should be ganged up on and flogged for it"

Exaggerate much? People sure are protective of their sugar addiction. Enjoy!

[SlogginThroughIt]

79. if it has added sugar it has to be listed.

and aside from that your responses in this entire thread have come from a point of arrogance not helpfulness. Is this how you treat patients?

[amuse bouche]

82. I didn't say anything about added sugar. Arrogance? I disagree

I treat my patients with empathy and facts. You are not one of my patients. This is a discussion board.

You don't like facts? Oh well, enjoy the darkness

[cwydro]

134. You seem nice.

Hope you treat your “patients” equally nicely.

[amuse bouche]

152. "You seem nice. Hope you treat your "patients" equally nicely"

Back attcha

[wnylib]

142. Teas for hydration?

Depends on what type of tea. As a nurse, I am sure you know that black tea is a diuretic.

[amuse bouche]

157. Nowhere did I suggest Black Tea.

But you go right ahead and continue to assume all kinds of things. It's enlightening

[wnylib]

166. Nowhere did I say or assume

that you said or meant black tea. Im fact, I added that clarification about black tea because you didn't say what kind if tea. That's why I said that it depends on what type of tea.

[lunatica]

51. Pediatricians will tell parents to give sugary soda to their children

To keep them from dying of severe dehydration.

[amuse bouche]

72. Sugar increases inflammation. Sorry, not the best choice

[lunatica]

85. Children dehydrate very quickly

Giving them soda is an emergency solution, and sorry, but it works.

[amuse bouche]

86. I know all about children. I raised 4 of them.

I didn't say it doesn't work, but I did say, not the best choice.

[lunatica]

88. I also think sodas are horrible

Everything about them is bad for you in the long term. So we agree.

[amuse bouche]

93. "So we agree" Ok thanks, I was starting think I had been transported

to the Twilight Zone

[amuse bouche]

160. 'To keep them from dying of severe dehydration.'

Parents are treating dying children? Wow they must really hate hospitals and damn, that's some kind of negligence,

that a Pediatrician would allow it. Those Pediatricians sound like jerks

[cstanleytech]

125. Assuming they are not diabetic wouldn't the OJ be a good idea if they cannot keep anything

else down and or have no appetite?

[amuse bouche]

130. I suppose so, but OJ is highly acidic. That alone can make it difficult to keep down

Plus the huge amount of sugar contributes to inflammation.

We have been brainwashed over the years by OJ companies

Tea or broth are much better options

[cstanleytech]

131. Hmm I find I get extreme nausea if I drink black tea without atleast a little milk in it.

[amuse bouche]

132. There are many of types of teas. No one said it has to be black.

Putting milk in, is fine. Cheers

[wnylib]

144. Indeed. Should not be black tea

if the goal is hydration, since black tea acts as a diuretic.

[cstanleytech]

146. What teas would you recommend?

[amuse bouche]

148. The best teas are ones you can tolerate and enjoy. I drink mostly green teas, especially matcha

They have tons of antioxidants.The catechins in them, are said to prevent cell damage.

Chamomile is nice and any tea with ginger. I'm sure others have personal recommendations and hopefully they will chime in

[lunatica]

161. There's nothing wrong with OJ

I was simply responding to a comment about soda being bad. In a pinch it will save children who are dehydrated. Children can die of dehydration pretty quickly.

[Rorey]

2. Oh no!

She'll be in my thoughts. Please keep us posted!

And take care of yourself too!

[Claritie Pixie]

8. Thank you - we live 1500 miles apart. It's hard being so far away.

Take care of yourself too.

[defacto7]

3. How do you find community spread without testing?

With their logic there would never be documented community spread.

[Claritie Pixie]

9. Exactly!! So frustrating and wrong.

[ChiTownDenny]

25. The entire world is testing, except America.

The world is using a German manufactured test. There's a reason why we aren't. We will find out why, eventually. But in the meantime, while we try to develop a test, chaos in America!

[BooScout]

33. Actually they're not...

The UK is now only testing hospitalized patients...a not so brilliant idea brought to us by the Boris team. The WHO was not impressed and said so. So far the fool in charge is digging in his heels. He's refusing to close the schools too.

[ChiTownDenny]

53. OK. Over 100 countries.

My point is still:

"The US lags just about every developed country on testing for Covid-19 disease."

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa

[DFW]

48. It would be nice, but we really aren't

I just got back to Düsseldorf from Spain, a highly infected area, on Sunday morning. I don't feel any symptoms, but my wife wanted me tested anyway. There is no place here in Germany that will test me unless I have been certified in writing by a doctor saying I am a suspect for being infected, and need to be tested. The various local governments are trying to set up spot check testing sites, but that is so far very hit and miss, as there are nowhere enough testing kits, or medical personnel qualified to evaluate them.

[uponit7771]

60. +1

[Tweedy]

121. Perhaps that is the insane point?

We all have watched this reality tv show president tell us he does not want "the numbers" to go up.

Those poor people are still stuck on that cruise ship in Oakland.

[UpInArms]

4. Omg

I am so sorry ... I hate what this maladminstration has done ...

I hope you and your daughter stay safe ...

(((((((Virtual hugs))))))

[Claritie Pixie]

11. Thank you. I hate all all of this.

What they've done is beyond comprehension.

We will do our best to stay safe, please do the same!

[BigmanPigman]

6. Are they supposed to test everyone who had symptoms

when they eventually get plenty of the "they're in the mail" test kits? Will your daughter and co-worker get tested after they recover to see who was infected? The doctors and scientists need to get the real numbers and locations to track it, etc?

[Claritie Pixie]

12. They should be! How else do we contact trace and know who to isolate?

My blood is boiling she can't get tested. All of the people she works with are impacted and need to know.

[BigmanPigman]

94. It seems like whenever I am sick, really sick,

that some bureaucratic BS happens that it totally frustrating and I have no control over or they can't properly diagnose me which is just as infuriating. It isn't good to be stressed while ill but this always happens to me. I have empathy for you and your daughter's situation as far as that goes.

[McCamy Taylor]

99. In Europe with single payor health care they do

[BigmanPigman]

103. We can't test without kits though...

no matter who is paying for it. Wait, I take that back, some celebrities manage to find them.

[DarthDem]

7. She's in my thoughts

All my best to you. I have a feeling she'll be okay, particularly if she's resting and isn't in any respiratory distress as another poster mentioned.

[Claritie Pixie]

14. Thank you. Please stay safe.

[lindysalsagal]

10. Holy crap. This is not good. Those are the symptoms.

Hope she's ok soon.

[eppur_se_muova]

13. Contact UPMC -- they have developed their own test. How to do it in the link --

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/031420-covid19-testing

I am not in PGH, so this is not first hand info. But worth checking.

[ancianita]

15. This lack of test access is a horrible evil. Wishing her strength and recovery. Hang in there.

[gibraltar72]

16. Tell them she's a Senator.

[snacker]

28. Or an NBA player

[Claritie Pixie]

44. Or a celebrity.

[DFW]

49. A Senator from Kentucky! n/t

[intheflow]

17. My family just went through this.

My son was very sick but couldn't get tested. They finally tested him for 20 common things with similar symptoms. They stopped when they learned he had pneumonia. Gave him some medicine and sent him home as if pneumonia isn't a common outcome of covid-19!!

Now I'm on self-quarantine at home with him. Not showing any symptoms, and not getting paid.

[Claritie Pixie]

39. Oh my - how is he doing?

Antibiotics for the pneumonia I presume?

I'm sorry you're going through this. I wish your son a speedy recovery and hope you stay well.

[33taw]

18. Please let her know to avoid anti inflammatory meds like ibuprofen.

Apparently, they can cause larger problems.

[Claritie Pixie]

37. Yes she's taking tylenol.

[Alea]

124. Good article on this in the NY Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/health/coronavirus-ibuprofen.html

The coronavirus uses these receptors to infect cells, the authors noted, and so in theory patients taking the drugs might be more vulnerable to the virus. One of the drugs was ibuprofen.

But there was no research to back up the contention. “No data,” said Dr. Michele Barry, director of the Center for Innovation in Global Health at Stanford University. There is no reason to think that infected patients should avoid temporary use of ibuprofen, she added.

“It’s all anecdote, and fake news off the anecdotes,” said Dr. Garret FitzGerald, chair of the department of pharmacology at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. “That’s the world we are living in.”

“Until there is evidence, there is no reason at all to be issuing public health guidance” about Nsaids and the coronavirus, he added.

More at link

I also haven't seen any Doctors on any news show saying stay away from Ibuprofen. Seems if this is true they would be shouting it from the roof tops. I'm not trying to dispute, I just really want to know the truth because I use Ibuprofen. So much information out there, and disinformation, that's it's getting hard to know what the heck to do.

[BeckyDem]

19. Sounds like she fits the profile of symptoms. I hope she gets through as quickly as possible.

So sorry! Best to your daughter and I hope they will get her tested. Everyone she worked with will need to isolate themselves.

[hlthe2b]

21. Remember it is still flu season as well. Did she get a flu vaccine this year?

My sister (ER nurse) has been bombarded with the worried sick for which they can only rule out strep, influenza A&B and a couple of other associated respiratory viruses. They don't have COVID-19 testing either.

Still, the majority HAVE come back influenza-positive (and were NOT vaccinated, which upsets her no end, but that is an aside).

Wishing you both the best and your daughter a quick return to good health.

[still_one]

29. That is correct, and they can check for the flu, because she sures meets the criteria for that.

[Claritie Pixie]

36. Thank you. See my update down-thread, she's in line at a drive through testing station now.

She was vaccinated for influenza in October and her symptoms are atypical for how it usually presents.

[Traildogbob]

22. But Lindsey Graham gets a 3 day vacation

Comes back to office, (I refuse to say work) and gets a test immediately. Do you think if he got that German Vaccine patent, tRump would be fairly administer it? Wishing the best for your daughter. Can't imagine your fear. My Daughter just was hired, after graduating college, in Trauma at Mission Hospital. So scared. 👃

[Peregrine Took]

30. Atrocious! This country has gone insane. n/t

[DENVERPOPS]

59. There seems to be no problem getting tests if you are:

Trump's entire administration, Trump's agencies, Trump's cabinet, House members, Senate members, and wealthy or well connected.

Let them eat cake mentality is alive and well in our country......

If you were rich, and couldn't get tested here, you merely hop on your private jet and go to a country that will not only give you a test but process it for free! Or send someone on your staff to a nation that has tests and have them bring back a few hundred along with a person that can process the tests.......

(If you were a Republican, you would also have them bring back a couple of thousand more to sell at an inflated price to not only cover your costs, but to make a nice tidy profit)

[ananda]

24. Sounds exactly like corona symptoms.

nt

[mikelgb]

27. I'm in this boat right now too. Awaiting a call from my PCP. About to read them the riot act.

THE LACK OF TESTING IS PURELY TO KEEP THE "NUMBERS" DOWN. FULL STOP.

[Claritie Pixie]

35. I hope you can get tested soon. Hang in there!

[mikelgb]

56. I got it scheduled!

had to go 'there' but all is well in love and pandemic

[Maggiemayhem]

50. Actually,it may have delayed due to

Jared Kushner and his brother trying to develop a test for CV . They have a “health” company . I can’t remember the name bur it begins with O.

[mikelgb]

57. I asked my doctor's office if I sign-up with the Lakers can I get it?

(I finally got it scheduled btw)

[DENVERPOPS]

55. Exactly

if you don't test for infections, then you don't have infected, therefore you don't have a problem.....

[rocktivity]

31. I concur with these diagnoses

In the absence of respiratory distress, it's more likely the common flu.




rocktivity

[Claritie Pixie]

34. Influenza vaccine in October.

I know it's possible she could have Influenza B, however her symptoms are atypical for influenza. A 5 day fever is not the usual presentation in the absence of secondary infection.

[Siwsan]

76. I had no idea aches and pains are common with a cold!

Guess I get the 'uncommon' cold.

Never had flu so my only crossovers are between allergies (which I have) and colds (which I get).

I'm going to keep that chart of symptoms, just in case..............

[3catwoman3]

109. Fever due to allergies? I will disagree with that.

Fever at the onset of cold symptoms can happen as the immune system kicks onto gear - it should be brief in duration.

[Claritie Pixie]

32. UPDATE: my daughter is now in line at a drive through testing station.

There are so many cars the line is backed up onto the highway.

THANK YOU to everyone who responded with advice and well wishes. To those who aren't feeling well, hang in there and take good care.

I'll keep updating in this thread.

[orleans]

61. glad she's going to be tested

how old is she?

[USALiberal]

102. What will you do different if she is positive? nt

[gerryatwork]

41. She can

get tested for the flu. The chance for getting the flu and Corona I’d guess to be about even. If she has the flu she can just about rule out Corona but still get it at a later date. I agree it’s stupid and neglectful not to provide tests for anyone who has symptoms

[Sogo]

43. Exactly what my neighbor went through.

Severe symptoms for him and his wife after visited by a friend from Norway, who had traveled extensively throughout Europe and Mexico. The husband had just gotten over the flu three weeks earlier, which is very rare to turn around and get flu again. They contacted our local health center and called the state health department. Both told him they could not be tested because they didn't have an identified carrier of the disease. Finally, the public health department in our community contacted them and arranged to have a test done, which had to be sent to a lab an hour's drive away. Everyone in our community held their collective breath until the test results came in four days later. They both tested negative for COVID-19.

What a Catch 22, though, that you can't be tested unless the person you were in contact with has been identified as a COVID-19 carrier!

Donald's f-ing way to keep the numbers low....God help us until November!

[JohnnyLib2]

45. thanks for the update. Hope she gets useful information from that stop.

[barbtries]

46. my niece in CA

is waiting for results now, in CA. The first day she went she didn't qualify for testing, the next day she did. They loosened the criteria overnight. She ran a very high fever but her lungs were clear, she's negative for other flu.

It's criminal that tests are being rationed out the way they are. It's obvious that the numbers are being way under-reported.

It seems to me that with a fever lasting 5 days she should be seen by a doctor at least - hopefully that's happened.

[Maggiemayhem]

47. If she gets doctors orders ,

She can be tested at the hospital in South Side on Mary Street Pitt very recently developed their own test. UPMC

[LakeArenal]

52. Good grief.

[SunSeeker]

54. This must be excruciating for you.

Im sending healing vibes to your daughter!

[gldstwmn]

58. Try Benadryl to break the fever. It worked for me.

I remembered that I had been given it about 25 years ago when I went to the emergency room. It also helped me sleep through the body aches and helped with the hives.

[womanofthehills]

81. I've read some reports out of Europe saying you don't want to break the fever

The fever helps you recover

[gldstwmn]

100. I'm not a physician

and I'm just offering anecdotal evidence of what worked for me. If you think it's bad or doesn't work then definitely don't do it. Running a fever leads to dehydration. We can't even get tests. There are just so many unanswered questions right now.

[3catwoman3]

105. You are correct. Fever is thought to slow down germ reproductive cycles...

...and speed up production of new white blood cells. There is thinking among infectious disease specialists that over-management of fever may make illnesses last longer because we are interfering with the body’s efforts to heal itself.

This is part of what I have come to call my “Fever 101” talk at the pediatric office (a play on the titles of college classes - History 101, English 101, Art 101, etc).

[3catwoman3]

107. Benadryl does not have any antipyretic (fever reducing)...

...ingredients. It can help symptoms of hay fever, but not fever from viral or bacterial illnesses.

It definitely makes many people sleepy, and will certainly ease the itchiness of hives.

[Demsrule86]

62. Many folks do ...my sis in law had the same symptoms and she too was denied a test...the feds still

trying to keep the numbers down I think because that is what Trump really wants.

[bamagal62]

63. I have the same,

Including occasional shortness of breath. No test for me. I don’t fit the criteria, according to my doctor. I’m in Chicago. I do know there’s a student at CMU that is having flu like symptoms, possible covid, as we got a notice. If that’s positive, I think it might be community spread, but don’t have the details.

[Claritie Pixie]

64. kick

[malaise]

65. Hope she's OK

[Sugar Smack]

66. I'm so sorry. I'm so angry for you. You're obviously doing

your personal best to care for her. My thoughts are with you and your daughter.

[pnwmom]

67. This article from the Pittsburgh Gazette says there've been 10 cases in Allegeny county.

If they thought this "confirmed" case (2 tests at different labs) had traveled to an affected area, I think they'd have said so. They mentioned traveling with other cases.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/03/17/Allegheny-County-10-COVID-19-cases-coronavirus/stories/202003170092

The confirmed case is a person in his or her 60s who is now hospitalized. The county does not yet know how that person contracted COVID-19.

SNIP

“The contact tracing, including information gathering, is just underway on these cases,” the county said in a press release. “As a result, no further information is available at this time.”

In addition to the 10 cases in Allegheny County, Washington and Beaver counties also have one COVID-19 case each.

[MoonlitKnight]

70. No flu test?

That could be used to rule that out.

[Ilsa]

90. I was thinking the same thing.

They need to rule out flu. But without respiratory symptoms, it sounds like she has a virus, and it's like one I've had before.

[Claritie Pixie]

92. Flu has been ruled out.

[Happy Hoosier]

73. For fuck's sake...

The orange buffoon is taking a victory lap and we STILL can't test everyone who needs testing.

[defacto7]

78. They may as well say not testing until you've infected 100 people.

[Glimmer of Hope]

80. This is unacceptable. I am so sorry.

I hope your daughter gets better soon.

[leighbythesea2]

87. Something similiar?

My daughter traveled for a conference. 10 days. While there she experienced similiar symptoms. Mild enough that she wasnt sure what was happening. No thermometer so unsure of fever but felt hot. Fatigue. Headache.
She came back & is self quarantine-ing day 6 today. Now looking back wondering if that was it? We said if only there were tests. How will we ever know? The most basic information.

[pansypoo53219]

89. s korea tested + tested + it has stayed below 9k for days now.

we are fucked.

[Meowmee]

91. I hope she gets better very soon

This is a very scary time.

[warmfeet]

95. Future generations can look to this as the perfect example

of an utterly bungled response. These are the glory days of incompetence. When all is said and done, the deaths of many thousands of Americans will be directly attributable to the incompetence, and lack of any empathy whatsoever, of this corrupt orange asshole claiming to be our president. The fucker belongs in prison, not in the white house.

[elias7]

96. IF NO RESIRATORY DISTRESS, STAY HOME UNTIL YOU GET BETTER - STOP THE SPREAD

I can sympathize, bit once the virus is in the community, numbers cease to matter. testing positive or negative ceases to matter. As an ED physician, I would posit that there is little value in her knowing if she has a positive or negative test at this time. If she was negative, would she want to be spreading what virus she does have out in public at this time?

Good rule of thumb, always, if you're sick, stay home until you're better so you don't get other people sick. if you're in trouble, then go to the hospital. If she is not having trouble breathing, then she should not risk infecting others, period

[enid602]

97. 02

Get a cheap oximeter from the internet, usually between 5 to 15 bucks. You clamp it on your finger,and it immediately gives you your 02 stat.

[McCamy Taylor]

98. I am a doctor and I was told I was not sick enough to test.

There is something wrong with this. Since there is no treatment for this illness, we do not test in order to cure. We test in order to prevent (the spread of disease). Meaning if they only test people in ICUs who are on ventilators who are already in isolation how much disease are you preventing compared to testing a teacher, a nurse, a doctor who has to decide whether to go back to work?

If we had better testing our economy would be better since people would not be expected to stay home with common colds.

[gldstwmn]

101. Any yet another NBA player has been tested.

Someone needs to ask some serious questions about the availability of tests and how they are being administered.

[DallasNE]

104. What Happened To The 1.9 Million Test Kits Promised This Week n/t

[Warpy]

112. Testing won't do her any good, there is no treatment

beyond rest, fluids, and Tylenol. Tests have been badly delayed by an administration of businessmen who don't want to know any of the bad news.

If she develops shortness of breath, she needs to go to the ER. Other than that, she'll be better off staying home, taking care of herself, being bored out of her mind, and not passing whatever it is on to someone else.

US cases will never have an accurate count between the lack of available tests and the fact that too many people have high deductible health insurance (or no insurance) and can't afford to be seen.

[eleny]

164. .

[RhodeIslandOne]

114. Assume she has it

Quarantine.

[Baltimike]

117. Please advise her NOT to take ibuprofen. It makes it worse

use acetomenophine

[certainot]

118. motherfucking republicans

[hamsterjill]

119. I have nothing to add.

Just want to send my best wishes to your daughter. I know you are going out of your mind with worry.

Sending hugs.

[EllieBC]

120. May she have a speedy and full recovery.

Stay well, please.

[Tweedy]

122. My heart goes out to you and yours

Not knowing just sucks.

May your daughter's illness soon subside and may you be happily reunited soon!

[Joinfortmill]

123. I said a prayer for her.

[LovingA2andMI]

126. This....

And praying for your Daughter's wellness, soon.

[uponit7771]

127. So testing is still restricted, this will prolong the effects of the virus

[AlexSFCA]

128. We're screwed!

Has she had flu shot? If not, have they done flu test?
It’s been said many times that it is highly unlikely to have both flu and covid-19. Imagine, I have a coworker who had pneumonia a couple weeks ago, he is 60. No tests of any kind except x-ray. Antibiotic treatment. If even pneumonia doesn’t get a corona test, I don’t know what does.

[Jamastiene]

137. I hope she gets well soon and does NOT have the virus. n/t

[wiley]

147. Sounds like the flu

Has her fever ever exceeded 101F? I understand your concern but do you know if the other person still has a fever? Has that person recovered? Has that person been tested?

What is her age?
Has she ever had any pulmonary issues at all (i.e. asthma)?

It requires masks, gloves, staff time and space to test people.
The majority of people that are being tested at this point have the flu.

If she was sent home from work because someone had a fever, has she contacted her workplace to see whether that person tested positive?

There's would index case right there if so.

So if she is in distress, over 60, or has a pre-existing respiratory issue she could easily demand to be tested. They would test her for the flu at least.

But so far it sounds like the flu.

[Maru Kitteh]

155. New CDC guideline has been dropped to 99.6. nt

[Maru Kitteh]

153. Look in this thread, you will see people here who don't think your daughter should get tested.

I find it INSANE and so very dangerous.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13121899