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medical equipment used in America vs China (Original Post) Demovictory9 Mar 2020 OP
Both my kids are ER physicians and are allotted one mask PER day n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #1
Yep. My wife gets one mask a day as well. This is scary. hunter Mar 2020 #12
yeah... no lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #2
That is because our leaders don't care about healthcare workers or its citizens. Jamastiene Mar 2020 #3
Yeah. It sucks. I've reached the acceptance stage of this whole thing. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #4
Yeh, me too. murielm99 Mar 2020 #5
you still have a very high chance of survival, even at your age and w/ your pre-existing conditions Celerity Mar 2020 #8
Yep cyclonefence Mar 2020 #9
MAGA🤮 arthritisR_US Mar 2020 #6
I am a nurse. I pretty much expect I am going to get this. eilen Mar 2020 #7
a tale of two countries.... Locrian Mar 2020 #10
Of course if you suggest that Aussie105 Mar 2020 #11

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
3. That is because our leaders don't care about healthcare workers or its citizens.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:29 AM
Mar 2020

It's the stock market that matters to them.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
4. Yeah. It sucks. I've reached the acceptance stage of this whole thing.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 04:52 AM
Mar 2020

Not so much "if" I get COVID but more "when" and how bad.


murielm99

(30,745 posts)
5. Yeh, me too.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:34 AM
Mar 2020

And when I get it, I will not survive. I am 71, with a compromised immune system.

I want to make it to November. I want that orange anus out of office. At least I will get to vote in our primary today.

I am a basket case here. There are still many things I want and need to do!

Celerity

(43,408 posts)
8. you still have a very high chance of survival, even at your age and w/ your pre-existing conditions
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:10 AM
Mar 2020

71 is not very far into the truly high risk zone.

The only true threat in terms of upping the odds in a bad way is if you get triaged out of vital care that may be needed (respirator, etc etc) IF you even catch it and go symptomatic.

I have you in my thoughts (sorry I am atheist and don't do prayers) Just follow the best practices to avoid catching it and the odds are really high you will be oki.

Please do not let it get you low and thinking like doom is nigh!

PM me anytime if you are feeling low.

Virtual proper social distancing hugz,

Cel <3



cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
9. Yep
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:54 AM
Mar 2020

I figure I'm going to die before this is over, too. I've requested an absentee ballot for our primary in late April (PA) and plan to request one for November, too, which I'll mark as soon as it gets here. I'll give it to my young and healthy son to put in the mail for me. I lied on the applications and said I'll be out of town (traveling and disability are the only two choices for getting an absentee ballot).

Meanwhile, my husband and I are not leaving the house. Right now, we have everything we need and can manage without most things if we run out. It will bed a good chance to clean out the freezer and pantry, even if we find ourselves having cocktail olives and stuffed grape leaves for breakfast.

I bought us some linen masks from Etsy which I figure at least would keep us from touching our noses or mouths if we do have to go out. I'm cleaning like a madwoman, in case there's some long-living virus on some surface (plus doing something proactive helps me feel better, even if it's pointless). I've recorded a bunch of old movies from TCM and discovered some real gems I'd never have known about otherwise. I do have a writing assisnment to complete but for some reason can't sit down and do that--I guess that's where the real "what's the point" sets in.

I'm going around and touching up paint on doorways and other trimwork, something I should have done a long time ago. It makes a nicer place for us to live in and will make the house easier to sell should I or we kick the bucket. The next step in that direction will be putting things for sale on eBay, things we haven't used for years but might bring in a pretty penny.

All in all, I don't let myself have time for worrying about this. So far, of course, I'm healthy (for me--72 with lung disease). I'm guessing that if I get sick, they're not going to waste a ventilator or even a hospital bed on the likes of me, but I'll have a pleasant, clean place for my decline, and a stockpile of oxycontin and other opioids saved from surgeries and dental work (including some genuine morphine from my father's hospice care) for overdosing, should it come to that. Understand, I do not want to die, and I am not suicidal, but it's comforting to know I will have the choice. I suspect I am not in this thinking.

eilen

(4,950 posts)
7. I am a nurse. I pretty much expect I am going to get this.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:59 AM
Mar 2020

I don't have underlying illnesses such as COPD or known CAD and I am under 60 and don't take daily meds - so am generally healthy. But I did get the flu (Influenza A) this year. I just hope I don't have it severely enough to be hospitalized.

I don't work on a patient care floor (I am in testing/procedures) but I am pretty sure they will ask us to float if needed. I am going to stop wearing my uniforms home though-- change in a locker room. They should really have us change to scrubs during this but I know the hospital corporation doesn't want to increase their laundry costs.


Locrian

(4,522 posts)
10. a tale of two countries....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:00 AM
Mar 2020

one with a massive manufacturing base, workers, etc....
the other who has outsource everything for the last 4 decades, fixated *only* on profit.

Which one is better equipped to deal with responding - similar to the US in ww2?

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
11. Of course if you suggest that
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:20 AM
Mar 2020

some countries take health care more seriously, and their governments devote more of their GDP to healthcare technology than the US, people will complain loudly.

After all the US is THE leading world power, and even suggesting that China and South Korea do health care better and are more prepared and capable to deal with the pandemic, will get peoples's backs up.

Wonderful how calling someone 'unpatriotic' or 'socialist' shuts them up. And shuts down any productive rational discussion.

And America really does need a lot of productive, rational discussion on a whole host of topics.

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