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Italian COVID-19 outbreak beginning to level off (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2020 OP
Kick dalton99a Mar 2020 #1
This is good news! StarryNite Mar 2020 #2
YES. YES. YES!!!!! BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #6
You're right on everything you said! StarryNite Mar 2020 #18
I got that from Barney Fife. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #20
You know, I was always glad Andy only let Barney have the one PatrickforO Mar 2020 #27
Yes! Good ole Barn! StarryNite Mar 2020 #31
Been saying this a for month now. A national lockdown is essential. John Fante Mar 2020 #41
That onecaliberal Mar 2020 #12
I noticed that. Also US cases slowing slightly Dem2 Mar 2020 #3
People who have it are not getting tested onecaliberal Mar 2020 #14
Exactly. Throw US case count out for now SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #19
Epidemiological studies will have to be done offshore Warpy Mar 2020 #29
There are desperate stories all over twitter of people who have it are very sick and cannot get onecaliberal Mar 2020 #47
I'm just hoping Windy City Charlie Mar 2020 #30
Anomalies Nasruddin Mar 2020 #34
That's great! How many days before selfish Americans Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #4
Never. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #8
There are selfish people everywhere whathehell Mar 2020 #35
I would LOVE to be on lockdown. I work for a school district that closed on Friday but is still onecaliberal Mar 2020 #48
I too would love it. I'm an RN caring for Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #49
I'm so sorry. My husband is diabetic and suffered a stroke 3 years ago. onecaliberal Mar 2020 #50
Tight blood sugar control will help his immune system. I'm diabetic/HTN too. :( Previous to this Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #51
Since his stroke, he's on a VERY restrictive diet. onecaliberal Mar 2020 #52
Woohoo, if we follow suit we just might get to see.... Brother Buzz Mar 2020 #5
Has China - Where This Whole Thing Began - Started To Level Off And..... global1 Mar 2020 #7
Some people in Wuhan went back to work from babylonsister Mar 2020 #9
Rueters reported it's still a limited quarantine going on in Wuhan uponit7771 Mar 2020 #42
They're slowly letting people back to work: dalton99a Mar 2020 #10
So Korea Nasruddin Mar 2020 #33
Hopefully we'll find a vaccine soon, so we can be sure there's no 2nd wave in the fall. C Moon Mar 2020 #11
We won't have one before a year, according to all reliable reports. They're just in Phase 1 testing pnwmom Mar 2020 #28
You can't really assume that this is going to be seasonal based on the data we have so far (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2020 #40
Agreed. That was dumb. I was reading about the 1918 flu and compared the two. C Moon Mar 2020 #53
So if certain people claim covid in America is still a danger, they can keep us in quarentine Flaleftist Mar 2020 #13
and take away your right to vote...if u have one that is nt msongs Mar 2020 #16
No. It's critical thinking. The mad rush to quarantine and shut down MarcA Mar 2020 #24
THIS !!!! You have courage to say it. Red Don keeping test from.us on purpose. uponit7771 Mar 2020 #43
With this scheming, conniving, deceitful bunch in power calimary Mar 2020 #39
Hopefully. Or they've just hit their testing ceiling Azathoth Mar 2020 #15
Just now on BBC, China reporting only one new homegrown case. sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #17
When they recover, industrial activity can be easily confirmed by satellite surveillance dalton99a Mar 2020 #21
Meanwhile, over here, we have no idea what the real... LudwigPastorius Mar 2020 #22
Yep, on purpose bluer areas get greatest infections and can't vote ... Red Don wins election. uponit7771 Mar 2020 #44
According to an article in Corriere della Sera the peak could be Sunday FightingIrish Mar 2020 #23
+1, Wuhan China is still under my level quarantine uponit7771 Mar 2020 #45
Hallelujah for Italy! Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #25
What is this tweet talking about? Cases have not "leveled off" in Italy. tclambert Mar 2020 #26
arithmetic is better than geometric is better than exponential Nasruddin Mar 2020 #32
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It's probably due to all that singing. Great lung exercise! JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2020 #46

StarryNite

(9,446 posts)
2. This is good news!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:15 AM
Mar 2020

We need a national lock down in the US now! Not wait until it spreads even more! Without a national lock down it...will...spread!

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
6. YES. YES. YES!!!!!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:21 AM
Mar 2020

If we don't we will have this thing going on for 6 months. Can the economy handle that? NO. NO. NO! Can we handle that? NO. NO. NO!!!

Nip it in the bud NOW! Stop air travel. We need a national lock down tomorrow. Yesterday would have been better. Americans will not voluntarily do this. No way! Not our society. You have to force them, even if it is for their own good. DUH is our middle name.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
3. I noticed that. Also US cases slowing slightly
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:17 AM
Mar 2020

Projection for March 31st went from about 83,000 cases to about 59,000 cases in the past 2-3 days. I'm hoping it's an actual trend and not a statistical glitch or testing anomaly.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
29. Epidemiological studies will have to be done offshore
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:08 AM
Mar 2020

Our data will be junk since our appalling and inadequate patchwork of for profit health insurance does not serve everyone and puts up significant barriers in terms of copays and deductibles to the people it does serve. Never mind those tests are being portioned out like they're gold plated by a government that really doesn't want to know the worst.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
47. There are desperate stories all over twitter of people who have it are very sick and cannot get
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:38 AM
Mar 2020

Tested.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
30. I'm just hoping
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:12 AM
Mar 2020

I'm hoping that doesn't give people a false sense of security....otherwise people will think we have this beat, but instead end up causing it to spread even further. It's sort of like having a 10-day prescription and after 6 days feeling great that you quit taking the prescription all the way through, but end up doing more damage than good.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
34. Anomalies
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:32 AM
Mar 2020

It's possible they've topped out on testing or it's unevenly available. Italy is pretty big.

US rate of increase still looks terrible - exponential, doubling every 3.5 days looking at it by eye. We might go thru an apparent explosive growth if we get testing going, even if the lockdowns are actually working.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
4. That's great! How many days before selfish Americans
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:18 AM
Mar 2020

heed the scientific advice and do what is needed to save ourselves. Not too long, I hope, but I've heard too many stories and seen too many people, first hand, who will not take this seriously.



BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
8. Never.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:23 AM
Mar 2020

Americans have to be forced to do anything, especially if it is for their own benefit. Treat them like children when it comes to the tRump Virus. Half of the people don't have the sense they were born with. Geez, look who is POTUS if you don't believe me.

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
48. I would LOVE to be on lockdown. I work for a school district that closed on Friday but is still
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:40 AM
Mar 2020

Making all adults report to work. I am terrified.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
49. I too would love it. I'm an RN caring for
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:53 AM
Mar 2020

Elderly veterans in a LTC facility. I will probably contract this at some point. I’m terrified.

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
51. Tight blood sugar control will help his immune system. I'm diabetic/HTN too. :( Previous to this
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:43 AM
Mar 2020

I've been pretty lax about what I was eating. I love starchy/crunchy/salty. Pringles are my heaven. Heaven is going to have to wait for a while.

I hope the best for you and your husband, that this thing may pass by your door and leave the two of you healthy and whole.



onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
52. Since his stroke, he's on a VERY restrictive diet.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:49 AM
Mar 2020

His A1c is normal. He does not require insulin unless he has a dietary excursion. He exercises and tries to do as much as he can. He will never work again though. Which is why I have to work to keep our healthcare and a roof over our heads.

I hope your employer does everything possible to keep you safe and healthy. My thoughts are with you and all healthcare professionals. 🙏🏻 Thank you.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
5. Woohoo, if we follow suit we just might get to see....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:20 AM
Mar 2020

some semblance of normalcy again. Hell, we could even see some baseball this year.

global1

(25,253 posts)
7. Has China - Where This Whole Thing Began - Started To Level Off And.....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:21 AM
Mar 2020

are they on the downside of the crisis there? What about S.Korea? What about the other countries that have been ahead of the U.S. in having to deal with this?

Is there a pattern - bell curve like they are showing us with the flattening graph - and are most of those countries that have had to deal with this before us - peaked and/or leveling?

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
9. Some people in Wuhan went back to work from
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:32 AM
Mar 2020

what I've read, but I have trust issues with everything I read.

dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
10. They're slowly letting people back to work:
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/03/16/china-ferries-332000-workers-back-to-work-with-special-trains

China ferries 332,000 workers back to work with special trains
Monday, 16 Mar 2020
10:53 PM MYT

BEIJING: China on Monday (March 16) transported 332,000 workers to their workplaces with special trains amid the novel coronavirus outbreak, official data showed.

By Sunday, the China State Railway Group Co, Ltd. had sent 300 such trains since Feb 16, with another 13 trains ready to leave in the near future.

The latest such train carrying over 200 workers southbound from central China's Hunan Province arrived at Shenzhen, one of the country's major manufacturing hubs, on Monday morning.

The special trains are among China's efforts to smooth transportation for work and production resumption amid the outbreak, as those trains run non-stop to their destinations with "green channels" for workers.

Meanwhile, Chinese Vice Premier Sun Chunlan called for unremitting efforts to curb the Covid-19 and targeted policies to boost work resumption.

Leading a central government group to guide the epidemic control work in Hubei, the centre of the coronavirus outbreak, Sun, also a member of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, made the remarks while inspecting production resumption and spring plowing in Wuhan, capital of Hubei.

The group inspected automobile factories, food processing enterprises, and vegetable bases.

Hubei and Wuhan should strengthen the support for enterprises to resume operation, Sun said, especially transportation to facilitate people within the province to return to work and serve logistics.

Sun also urged related administrations to solve practical difficulties and problems in the fields including taxation, finance and supply chain for enterprises.

Government at all levels should ensure the supply of protective materials for the virus to enterprises and guide companies to improve disinfection and temperature testing, Sun stressed. - Xinhua/Asian News Network

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
33. So Korea
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:22 AM
Mar 2020

Look here: [link:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/|
Some of the countries have individual breakouts
So Korea seems the most believable, but the Chinese graph certainly offers hope.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
28. We won't have one before a year, according to all reliable reports. They're just in Phase 1 testing
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:08 AM
Mar 2020

now, and assuming that goes well, there are still two more phases.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
13. So if certain people claim covid in America is still a danger, they can keep us in quarentine
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:07 AM
Mar 2020

for a while? Maybe my nightly relaxing has me a tad paranoid tonight.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
24. No. It's critical thinking. The mad rush to quarantine and shut down
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:45 AM
Mar 2020

especially by "liberals" is concerning. It's one thing to quarantine those proven
positive with a communicable disease but stopping entire populations is something
else. Rethugs and other criminals let this happen. It's up to others to respond reasonably.

sprinkleeninow

(20,251 posts)
17. Just now on BBC, China reporting only one new homegrown case.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:12 AM
Mar 2020

Well, you want to believe that.

Okay, I will. Light in the darkness....

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
22. Meanwhile, over here, we have no idea what the real...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:29 AM
Mar 2020

number of new cases per day is because we don't have the testing.

Trump and his cronies should be prosecuted for criminal malfeasance.

How about a 327-million-person class action lawsuit under the Federal Tort Claims Act that leaves Trump destitute for the rest of his pitiable life?

FightingIrish

(2,716 posts)
23. According to an article in Corriere della Sera the peak could be Sunday
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:38 AM
Mar 2020

That’s encouraging but it is not the end. There is the danger that people will interpret the peak as the all clear. The lockdown appears to be working but it has to be maintained.

https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_marzo_16/picco-potrebbe-arrivare-domenicatra-15-giorni-primi-effetti-positivi-9afd6b04-67c7-11ea-93a4-da8ab3a8afb1.shtml

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
26. What is this tweet talking about? Cases have not "leveled off" in Italy.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:53 AM
Mar 2020

They are still increasing by thousands per day.The rate of increase may have slowed a little, though it is hard to tell--the rate bounces around a lot. In the last 3 days, the number of cases has increased by 10,000.

Nasruddin

(754 posts)
32. arithmetic is better than geometric is better than exponential
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:16 AM
Mar 2020

The rate of increase, if it stays arithmetic, is sure better news than the exponential explosion. We will have to see if it is true. There have been anomalies in their data before.

This is a stage in epidemics and other network problems like this - eventually it just can't find enough suitable hosts to infect to maintain the exponential or geometric growth. It's obviously still not good enough.

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JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
46. It's probably due to all that singing. Great lung exercise!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:32 AM
Mar 2020

I'd try it, but when I sing, the general health declines.

Stay safe.

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