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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo I've heard Millennials' growing social media term for COVID-19 is
the "Boomer Remover." My hunch is the phrase isn't viewed negatively by those who use it most. Maybe they should say it to their grandparents and parents.
Never think there is a lowest possible level for human behavior. They can always exceed what you've witnessed.
no_hypocrisy
(46,191 posts)They've never grown up in a functioning and compassionate democracy.
TheBlackAdder
(28,216 posts)hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)Zoonart
(11,879 posts)sociopaths.
KayF
(1,345 posts)they're supposed to be saying stuff like this.
Zoonart
(11,879 posts)Db left.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Signed,
Technically a Boomer ('63).
janterry
(4,429 posts)signed
'64
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Those are the rules. We have to accept our fate.
htuttle
(23,738 posts)We're Generation Jones, just like Obama.
I'm from '63, Obama is from '62.
My Mother is a Boomer
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Still Generation Jones, though.
EX500rider
(10,866 posts)....esp since my teen music WAS Generation X (Billy Idol's 1st band) and Sex Pistols and Buzzocks and the Clash etc.
The Boomers are more Stones, Led Zeppelin, CCR, etc.
janterry
(4,429 posts)I don't know the year, but I was never a boomer when I was young. They struggled for a way to identify us. I remember when I was in college they were calling us the "me generation" - to mean we were selfish. (Not sure what that would have mean for 'me, too' - lol - had it stuck)
But I resent being a part of the same generation that my Mother TOTALLY identifies with. It really is her generation.
I see myself as on the cusp of Gen-X, too
BumRushDaShow
(129,491 posts)which happened in 1964 and there was a corresponding dropoff of births after that. I think of myself as a "tail-end boomer" because where I live, the families were larger, so I grew up with friends who all had older brothers and sisters who were 3 - 4 years older than us, and we all played together across age groups and hung out together.
My mother in no way is a boomer as a 1930 baby - she was from the "Silent Generation" or as she always said they considered themselves - the "Gray Flannel Suit" generation based on the 1955 novel.
(am a just barely '62 - originally due in '61 but didn't want to come out of the oven )
misanthrope
(7,428 posts)I'm a '64 and never identified as a Boomer. Even the writer whose novel put the label into widespread usage, Douglas Coupland, was born three years before I was.
If you look at the cultural identities and historical experiences, it's obvious my parents -- who had me while still in college -- are Boomers. Born to the generation that fought World War II, they grew up in a time of rising economics, when America moved into the suburbs. They recall a time before TV was ubiquitous, when all the sets you saw were black and white. Their childhood and adolescence was dominated by Eisenhower Era ethos and values. They remember "duck and cover" and the emergence of Russia as a nuclear power. Wives scarcely worked in their era and often found it difficult to obtain a bank account or credit.
Wider social upheaval percolated after they went off to college. Their peers fought in Vietnam and protested. They or their siblings populated the hippie movement.
Me? I was a latchkey kid whose earliest political memories were shaped by Watergate. I remember a childhood with gasoline lines and economic setbacks, an America becoming far more urban-aware and ethnically diverse. I never knew a time when we didn't have a TV. I spent most all of high school in the Reagan Era (considering its zeitgeist began with the Iranian Hostage Crisis). Graduating college didn't mean we would do better than our parents and it became common to find college graduates populating service industry roles.
My peers fought in the sand of the Middle East, not the swamps of Southeast Asia.
So how can I belong to the generation that is so clearly the one of my parents?
JHB
(37,162 posts)...but we know what bullshit that is.
Signed
more '64
janterry
(4,429 posts)misanthrope
(7,428 posts)I can't see celebrating a pandemic as the solution for disagreement.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)Is normal.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)the 'gallows' are on necks other than one's own.
I'm looking forward to the "Goodbye Gen Y" virus, myself.
Come to earth. Meet the humans.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,430 posts)BittyJenkins
(411 posts)they buy into the movie Logan's Run. Very sad and no respect.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,902 posts)I've seen it from them. They were born about the early to mid 1990's. They are young enough to think 'it won't be my grandma' and old enough to know better.
Behind the Aegis
(53,988 posts)I see some are calling it "Gallow's humor" and it may be, but when I see something like this, all I can think of was the years growing up under the specter of AIDS and hearing, "It's killing all the right people." So, personally, I don't find much humor in this moniker.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)I was grown by then, bu thave clear memories of GRID, as it was originally called. So given the increasing use of the term "boomer" to denigrate older Americans, not funny.
JustAnotherGen
(31,902 posts)My mom reminded me the other day (I was so young at that time) - that there was a panic moment when people thought it could be airborne. Some of the worst jokes about homosexuality men having AIDS - stopped.I
Maybe they will stop when a few people in their early 20's die.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)This is divisive and unnecessary.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)If one young person says something hateful, they leap to assume that The Millennials must all feel that way.
TygrBright
(20,767 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I also dont believe it.
JHB
(37,162 posts)Maybe some clique does. So what? Did every Boomer stand astride a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun just because Jane Fonda did?
I didn't, and it's not just because I was 7 at the time. (Statisticians have dragooned me into the Boomers, which is a large part of what convinced me early on that this "generational label" nonsense is just that: nonsense.)
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)I'm getting to the point where I'm nearly out of fucks to give.
Signed,
Generation Jones (evidently)
marlakay
(11,498 posts)When I told him.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)"I am the center of the universe " stage by the time we learn to pedal a tricycle. Some never learn to play well with---or care about---others.
LuvNewcastle
(16,856 posts)We all say things we regret later.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,856 posts)whathehell
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argue that their parent's generation got them into a war (Vietnam) while our generation permanently removed that threat to them by eliminating the Draft. Thanks of a grateful generation, of course.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And about how "square" the "old man" and "old lady" were.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)I think I react less to this comment based on anecdotal experiences. When my husband was disabled the last 5 years of his life, we had overwhelming kindness and assistance from young people, from opening doors to helping with wheelchair to greater patience as therapists and nurses. Looking around me at young people paying into social security, taking care of us and still burdened with school debt made me feel good about those coming behind us. They have a dark sense of humor (they grew up on sopranos and breaking bad) but their hearts are good.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)first generation to be burdened with paying for both your retirement AND that of your parent's. Every generation gets their own battles to fight -- I'm sure the little dears will survive nicely.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)Because of low interest student loans that allowed me to get a law degree, a total luxury paid for by the American taxpayer. I owe more than I can ever repay.
I love the little dears comment. Similar line from the Philadelphia Story. That put a smile on my face as well
Cheers!
whathehell
(29,094 posts)without, one would hope, snide references to our demise.
Cheers!
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Where have you heard it? Link?
Sounds stupid to me.
ProfessorPlum
(11,277 posts)designed to create more division among Americans
Initech
(100,104 posts)New depths are reached almost daily.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It was boomers that raised celebrating youth to a cult level.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)My hippy friends were pulling that Reagan lever right on cue
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Mariana
(14,861 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)The majority of Millennials didn't vote at all...
whathehell
(29,094 posts)their parents generation did.
As for the Age Trust thing, the earliest boomers did that..By the time Reagan came along, Abbie Hoffman, noted Gen X Conservatism and began saying "Don't trust anyone Under 30".
Bradshaw3
(7,529 posts)and went to the streets to try and stop the vietnam War and were killed. And revered many older icons like C. Wright Mills.
You know what's truly hypocritical? Calling out Boomers for stereotyping a generation, then doing it yourself.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I believe I have a right to criticize members of my own age group.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Mariana
(14,861 posts)I take it you are not a Boomer?
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)millennials aren't immune, many will pass from it as well
Im just hoping way more from the side that will refuse the vaccine
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wow! Hadnt heard that!
Sympthsical
(9,120 posts)Denigrating universal healthcare, telling students to deal with massive debt when they paid very little for college themselves, historic income inequality, a planet burning down.
Im questioning your smarter premise here.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Paladin
(28,273 posts)jayfish
(10,039 posts)Smacked in the fucking mouth
That's ok, we have the remedy
You speak like someone who has never been
Knocked the fuck on out
But we have your remedy"
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Like the kind many of them are getting from sucking on their vape pens.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)Patterson
(1,531 posts)whathehell
(29,094 posts)I was thinking along those lines myself .
Nature Man
(869 posts)sanatanadharma
(3,730 posts)Absolute fact, everyone dies.
At 74 years I am delighted to see (the unsee-able) 'that' which may bring about my death.
What will be, is. I will know it then, whenever, wherever, however. I do chose to not fear now, the then.
And I continue practicing fearlessness 'till the day making it replaces faking it.
I do so wish my boomer-brothers would let go and leave to youth the task of trying to control the total.
A totally impossible task, but we all muddle through trying to do our best.
Crunchy Frog
(26,645 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)... take pen and paper, make an addendum to the will;
1) If I should die from Covid 19, my heirs dont get Jack Shit.
2) If any heir doesnt agree, they dont get Shit, either.
3) In fact, if I die from anything other than old age, nope, nothing.
And
4) I better live at least as long as Betty White, or else... yep, you get nothing but bills and maybe $250 from Social Security.
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Sounds good to me.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)why haven't you written them out of your will already?
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)If I die from Covid, Im damn sure gonna write someone out of my will !
whathehell
(29,094 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)StarryNite
(9,460 posts)Sally Leroy: America's greatest contribution has been to teach the world that getting old is such a drag.
Kevin Coughlin as Billy Cage
(Max Jacob Flatow Jr alias Frost) "How long you think you're gonna live?"
(Kevin Coughlin) "Thirty, man."
(Max Jacob Flatow Jr alias Frost) "Thirty?"
(Kevin Coughlin) "Twenty-five maybe. After that who needs it, huh?"
(Max Jacob Flatow Jr alias Frost) "Yeah. I don't want to live to be thirty. Thirty is death, baby. That's too much."
[link:
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)JHB
(37,162 posts)There's a certain quality of "people doing things because the script says so" that I normally equate with Dirty Harry and other vigilante movies.
StarryNite
(9,460 posts)I only saw it one time but the fact that I still think of it at certain times when ageism is brought up, says it made an impact on me. Kind of like the movies "Soylent Green", "Lord of the Flies" or "The Stepford Wives". Although "Wild in the Streets" wasn't as good as those movies. It's not about poor acting or that kind of thing, it's more about the creepy message. LOL
Anyway, from Wikipedia [link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_in_the_Streets|
Wild in the Streets is a 1968 film directed by Barry Shear and starring Christopher Jones, Hal Holbrook, and Shelley Winters. Based on a 1966 Esquire short story "The Day It All Happened, Baby!" by Robert Thom, it was distributed by American International Pictures. The film, described as both "ludicrous" and "cautionary", was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Film Editing and became a cult classic of the 1960s counterculture.
Ultimately however, Max and his cohorts may face future intergenerational warfare from an unexpected source: pre-teen children. When a young girl finds out Max's age (which is now 24), she sneers, "That's old!" Later, after Max kills a crawdad that was a pet to several young kids, then mocks their youth and powerlessness, one of the kids resolves, "We're gonna put everybody over ten out of business."
JHB
(37,162 posts)All I'm asking is for some actual facts to separate real information from clickbait BS.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I dont believe it anyway.
Several asked where it was heard or seen. No answer.
JHB
(37,162 posts)...it smacks of the sort of nasty misanthropic humor that can appeal to the unkind thoughts of teens and twentysomethings.
The same as "Never trust anyone over thirty" was.
I just don't see the point of getting all Margaret Dumont over it. Especially when blaming "Millennials" when teens and early-20s people aren't millennials. If one is the sort of person for whom "millennials" is just the new "kids these days", then what one has to say about them is just "get off my lawn" stuff.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)just to stir up some shit against Millennials. It certainly had that affect in this thread, didn't it?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)People love to post that kind of thing to get that kind of reaction.
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AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)by eliminating eligible population
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)actually like/love/respect. I know they poo poo the seriousness of the virus. I guess a lot of that generation has a callousness I had not considered.
Botany
(70,585 posts)And I am a boomer.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)the media is pushing this talking point just like they did but the flu.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13090303
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)Which I find entertaining
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)I think sometimes emergencies can bring out the best in people, but all too often it can bring out the worst in people.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)are over 30 now. It's Gen Z that is doing this stuff.
Also, when we WERE the youth vote we turned out is a bug way and made sure Obama got elected.
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Have any room to talk.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)They didn't award them to themselves, you know. It was their elders who decided that participation trophies should be a thing, and who handed them out to everyone.
doc03
(35,378 posts)up for future generations.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)raccoon
(31,125 posts)Maybe if they say it to their parents and grandparents, Those individuals might alter their wills.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)Before they do, they might do well to take a moment to feel ashamed that they did such a shitty job raising their offspring.
Hotler
(11,445 posts)Trump was having none of it. He was encouraging seniors to fly. Make no bones about it, the 1%ers want a bunch of us to die off.
blogslut
(38,017 posts)I doubt the veracity of your statement.
blogslut
(38,017 posts)If they were then I would be constantly listening to K-Pop.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)It's not an indictment of all millennials or zoomers, but it is out there.
blogslut
(38,017 posts)They're so last decade.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)...that millennnials are using the term on social media.
You were shown a link to social media where it is being used, often.
You now make some dippy dismissal of it as "old news".
I don't think I've ever seen anyone backpedal and move the goalposts at the same time. Dexterous, you are.
I'm not saying the use of the term is old news. I'm saying that being an edgelord is tired and boring and the people that use that hashtag are tired and boring.
If you want to keep arguing your point you're going to have to do it without me.
JHB
(37,162 posts)Tune in, turn on, drop out.
The point is: boomers did the same sort of thing at the same sort of age.
Why imitate the right-wing outrage-clickbait whirlygig?
mnhtnbb
(31,404 posts)And I'm a Boomer.
drray23
(7,637 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Don't you remember being young, irreverent, and feeling invincible?
And there are plenty of boomers threatening the world for these kids to demonize!!
Would you mind the boomer remover removing Trump, Barr, etc.? I'm sure not.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,367 posts)Millenials will still have to wait for their prizes.
Anyway, we boomers would be wise to see that our wills and trusts reflect our current wishes for reward/revenge.
Jspur
(578 posts)parents are boomers. So who do you think is going to get whatever money the boomers have once they pass away? The answer is millenials.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)this is "Gen Z" (trust a Boomer to not know the difference though, I guess!)
Jspur
(578 posts)it cracks me up when these bitter old people label anybody that is young as a millennial out of anger.
Hekate
(90,824 posts)Ugh
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