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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:07 PM Mar 2020

What was the pandemic in the early part of the 20th century?

My mother told me about how sick everyone was. She was a child in El Paso Tx and everyone in her family survived. I figure I'm gonna be OK during this scare. I am 80 now and in excellent shape. I guess somehow my genes were meant to survive, but damn...(she lived to be 93)...

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What was the pandemic in the early part of the 20th century? (Original Post) CTyankee Mar 2020 OP
1918 flu greenman3610 Mar 2020 #1
The "Spanish" Flu JHB Mar 2020 #2
Spanish Flu in 1918? JaneQPublic Mar 2020 #3
Probably the flu pandemic of 1918-1920 NutmegYankee Mar 2020 #4
The 1918 Flu dalton99a Mar 2020 #5
Spanish Flu, an H1N1 variant. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #6
The Spanish Flu Pandemic, 1918: 2nd Deadliest Plague In History elleng Mar 2020 #7
Also Polio epidemic of 1916 BunnyMcGee Mar 2020 #8
the flu gopiscrap Mar 2020 #9
There was a bad one in 1918 Yonnie3 Mar 2020 #10
The Spanish Flu killed more American soldiers and sailors during WW1 than the enemy Brother Buzz Mar 2020 #11
An excellent book on the subject is "The Great Influenza" by John M Barry RockRaven Mar 2020 #12
Thanks. sometimes I wonder how my mother and her sibs survived... CTyankee Mar 2020 #13
Yes highly MFM008 Mar 2020 #14
I'm just glad you're not touring Italy malaise Mar 2020 #15
My daughter and I were planning a trip to Spain later this year. CTyankee Mar 2020 #18
675,000+ americans did not survive and the country was at months long standstill beachbumbob Mar 2020 #16
Spanish Flu 1918 keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #17

JHB

(37,161 posts)
2. The "Spanish" Flu
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:08 PM
Mar 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

The 1918 influenza pandemic (January 1918 – December 1920; colloquially known as Spanish flu) was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic, the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus, with the second being the swine flu in 2009.[1] It infected 500 million people around the world,[2] or about 27% of the then world population of between 1.8 and 1.9 billion, including people on isolated Pacific islands and in the Arctic. The death toll is estimated to have been anywhere from 17 million[3] to 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million, making it one of the deadliest epidemics in human history.[4][5] Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemic's geographic origin.[2]

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It is estimated that one third of the global population was infected,[2] and the World Health Organization estimates that 2–3% of those who were infected died (case-fatality ratio).[52] Estimates vary as to the total number who died. An estimate from 1991 says it killed 25–39 million people.[53] A 2005 estimate put the death toll at probably 50 million (less than 3% of the global population), and possibly as high as 100 million (more than 5%).[54][55] But a reassessment in 2018 estimated the total to be only about 17 million,[3] though this has been contested.[56] With a world population of 1800 to 1900 million,[57] these estimates correspond to between 1 and 6 percent of the population.

This flu killed more people in 24 weeks than HIV/AIDS killed in 24 years.[58] However, the Black Death killed a much higher percentage of the world's then smaller population.[59]

The disease killed in every area of the globe. As many as 17 million people died in India, about 5% of the population.[60] The death toll in India's British-ruled districts was 13.88 million.[61]

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
4. Probably the flu pandemic of 1918-1920
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

Often called Spanish flu even though it’s thought it had central USA origin. Spain wasn’t doing wartime censorship, so they freely reported the impacts.

dalton99a

(81,566 posts)
5. The 1918 Flu
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/

How the Horrific 1918 Flu Spread Across America
The toll of history’s worst epidemic surpasses all the military deaths in World War I and World War II combined. And it may have begun in the United States
By John M. Barry
Smithsonian Magazine
November 2017

Haskell County, Kansas, lies in the southwest corner of the state, near Oklahoma and Colorado. In 1918 sod houses were still common, barely distinguishable from the treeless, dry prairie they were dug out of. It had been cattle country—a now bankrupt ranch once handled 30,000 head—but Haskell farmers also raised hogs, which is one possible clue to the origin of the crisis that would terrorize the world that year. Another clue is that the county sits on a major migratory flyway for 17 bird species, including sand hill cranes and mallards. Scientists today understand that bird influenza viruses, like human influenza viruses, can also infect hogs, and when a bird virus and a human virus infect the same pig cell, their different genes can be shuffled and exchanged like playing cards, resulting in a new, perhaps especially lethal, virus.

We cannot say for certain that that happened in 1918 in Haskell County, but we do know that an influenza outbreak struck in January, an outbreak so severe that, although influenza was not then a “reportable” disease, a local physician named Loring Miner—a large and imposing man, gruff, a player in local politics, who became a doctor before the acceptance of the germ theory of disease but whose intellectual curiosity had kept him abreast of scientific developments—went to the trouble of alerting the U.S. Public Health Service. The report itself no longer exists, but it stands as the first recorded notice anywhere in the world of unusual influenza activity that year. The local newspaper, the Santa Fe Monitor, confirms that something odd was happening around that time: “Mrs. Eva Van Alstine is sick with pneumonia...Ralph Lindeman is still quite sick...Homer Moody has been reported quite sick...Pete Hesser’s three children have pneumonia ...Mrs J.S. Cox is very weak yet...Ralph Mc-Connell has been quite sick this week...Mertin, the young son of Ernest Elliot, is sick with pneumonia,...Most everybody over the country is having lagrippe or pneumonia.”

Several Haskell men who had been exposed to influenza went to Camp Funston, in central Kansas. Days later, on March 4, the first soldier known to have influenza reported ill. The huge Army base was training men for combat in World War I, and within two weeks 1,100 soldiers were admitted to the hospital, with thousands more sick in barracks. Thirty-eight died. Then, infected soldiers likely carried influenza from Funston to other Army camps in the States—24 of 36 large camps had outbreaks—sickening tens of thousands, before carrying the disease overseas. Meanwhile, the disease spread into U.S. civilian communities.

The influenza virus mutates rapidly, changing enough that the human immune system has difficulty recognizing and attacking it even from one season to the next. A pandemic occurs when an entirely new and virulent influenza virus, which the immune system has not previously seen, enters the population and spreads worldwide. Ordinary seasonal influenza viruses normally bind only to cells in the upper respiratory tract—the nose and throat—which is why they transmit easily. The 1918 pandemic virus infected cells in the upper respiratory tract, transmitting easily, but also deep in the lungs, damaging tissue and often leading to viral as well as bacterial pneumonias.

Yonnie3

(17,471 posts)
10. There was a bad one in 1918
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

My brother and I chanced across a graveyard on a farm road near Blacksburg, Virginia. There was a row of small graves that were not marked. From surrounding markers we guessed they were in the 1915 ~ 1920 time frame.

A little internet research found this:

I find the two phase aspect troubling.

https://www.archives.gov/exhibits/influenza-epidemic/

World War I claimed an estimated 16 million lives. The influenza epidemic that swept the world in 1918 killed an estimated 50 million people. One fifth of the world's population was attacked by this deadly virus. Within months, it had killed more people than any other illness in recorded history.

The plague emerged in two phases. In late spring of 1918, the first phase, known as the "three-day fever," appeared without warning. Few deaths were reported. Victims recovered after a few days. When the disease surfaced again that fall, it was far more severe. Scientists, doctors, and health officials could not identify this disease which was striking so fast and so viciously, eluding treatment and defying control. Some victims died within hours of their first symptoms. Others succumbed after a few days; their lungs filled with fluid and they suffocated to death.

The plague did not discriminate. It was rampant in urban and rural areas, from the densely populated East coast to the remotest parts of Alaska. Young adults, usually unaffected by these types of infectious diseases, were among the hardest hit groups along with the elderly and young children. The flu afflicted over 25 percent of the U.S. population. In one year, the average life expectancy in the United States dropped by 12 years.

It is an oddity of history that the influenza epidemic of 1918 has been overlooked in the teaching of American history. Documentation of the disease is ample, as shown in the records selected from the holdings of the National Archives regional archives. Exhibiting these documents helps the epidemic take its rightful place as a major disaster in world history.


A couple of years later we found that the graveyard had been cleaned up and several markers added. The small graves still had no markers.


Brother Buzz

(36,456 posts)
11. The Spanish Flu killed more American soldiers and sailors during WW1 than the enemy
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:21 PM
Mar 2020

The Spanish Flu ran through the training camps faster than shit through a goose. Scary!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. My daughter and I were planning a trip to Spain later this year.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:33 PM
Mar 2020

I am hopeful that this will all calm down so we can go...

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
16. 675,000+ americans did not survive and the country was at months long standstill
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:04 PM
Mar 2020

and that was before the vast transportation we have today. Local mansions in my town were turned into makeshift field hospitals with dead and dying in the hallways. Want a shock? Go into your local cemetery and few the number of headstones with 1918/1919 as year of death.

It was so bad in Philadelphia that hundreds of dead were being removed from people's houses PER DAY, and city lost 20,000 dead

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