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#Trump told Fox News he was going to cut entitlements last night.
By entitlements, he means medicare & social security like regular people have, not entitlements like his family gets, including the right to shoot elephants & shit on gold toilets.
Link to tweet
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The Divine Miss M is always spot on.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)And like blind sheep, they'll continue to support him.
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,650 posts)As long as they believe brown people are suffering more
JHB
(37,160 posts)...when they hear "entitlements", they think "welfare for lazy shiftless [
] living off my tax dollars", not what they get.
And after it happens, they'll blame "government" and not the government they put in place and blindly supported.
Traildogbob
(8,748 posts)Does that not describe "every single" tRump? He don't even pay for Barron, we do. Hunting trips, jet skiing, golf, world travel, jetting around the country for KKKlan Jamborees, while never lifting a finger to do any work.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)It sounds like the same drivel as the Chicago Welfare queen (black, of course) who bought a car with food stamps.
Republican voters were stupid racists back then too.
JHB
(37,160 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:42 PM - Edit history (1)
I can't recall specifics, but back in the 80s conservative think tanks and other organizations would send people around on talking tours. They'd throw out big scary numbers about how much of the Federal budget went to entitlements, and then talk about welfare, with no mention that the by-far lion's share of those numbers was Social Security and Medicare.
Much as how the Bushies implied Saddam had a hand in 9/11 by interweaving mentions of him and the attack (but never directly connecting them), they implied that a huge part of the budget went to welfare cases. And stupid racism helped the audience swallow that unquestioningly.
It was a subtler, more sophisticated propaganda technique than the "Welfare Queen" talk, but that made it all the more effective. Look at how often you have people here distinguishing between "earned benefits" and "entitlements".
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)because of something Trump says Obama did (or didn't) do that Trump has now put right.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)"THAT'S WHAT 'THOSE PEOPLE' GET, LAYING AROUND WHILE YOU HARD-WORKING PEOPLE ARE PAYING YOUR TAXES!!1!"
Mark my words.
leftstreet
(36,108 posts)And they'll fall for it
They really do believe he means 'other' people, not them
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)the majority of them do
calimary
(81,308 posts)llmart
(15,540 posts)She doesn't mince any words.
shanti
(21,675 posts)When he loses, we are going to be punished. Watch those 2 months before his ass is out for good.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)coti
(4,612 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,252 posts)these are paid for benifits . and there are a lot of rs who feel that they are imune and i got a lot of them in my apartment complx that i live and they go oh i wont get hurt , u will. hope u have backups . if u want to see lots more homeless , esp rs , go right ahead .
Locrian
(4,522 posts)Before even debating it we need to destroy that "frame" of entitlements.
Debating w/o doing that is falling right into the trap because all anyone hears is "entitlements"
That is the gop and trumps top ten playbook moves: its doesn't matter what the facts are if you attach a "label" that sounds bad. He does it with his nicknames for people, he does it with policy. And it works if we fall for staying in that frame.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)Calling Social Security and Medicare "entitlements" is like calling the estate tax the "death tax." They are the Big Lie the Repugs keep repeating until it becomes reality.
And the MAGAts can't wrap their pea-sized brains around the idea that a vote of a Republican is a vote against the interests of themselves, their families, and their grandchildren.
wnylib
(21,485 posts)in the toilet with the market's reaction to covid 19. SS and Medicare are all I have left.
Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)You're entitled to them because you paid taxes to support them.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)...when in fact they have invested in those programs during their entire working lives. It is also a projection tactic against the real money grubbers who get billions in tax breaks while the rest of us get crumbs.
Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Bette helps us to stay grounded. Too bad our politicians don't follow her lead.
All anyone has to do is compare Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, you know, the assistance REAL salt of the earth people get, to all the "emoluments" he has received while pResident... WITH dollar amounts...
golfing
tax payer funded trips abroad for the turd's entire Klan, though NONE of them do any work
staying at the turd's properties, which require his entire entourage, plus all the Secret Service agents to pay up to $650 A NIGHT, which goes straight from the tax payers pockets, to HIS pockets
all the corrupt republican gatherings, fund raisers, at his Trump Hotel in DC, which goes directly into the turd's pockets (plus he vetoed a move of the FBI headquarters because a hotel would be built on the site, which would compete with his hotel)
all the foreign country dignataries staying at the turd's properties to garner favors, with those room rental $$$ going directly into his pockets
the turd instructing the military to stay at his resorts, so tax payer monies go directly into his pockets
But the American people are so stupid and ignorant that we can't wrap our little brains around "the emoluments clause", bless our hearts....
I call BULLSHIT.
Americans understand scams and con artists. And we HATE them. Once again we allow THEM to control the narrative.
The turd's run for presidency was nothing but a scam to MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE PRESIDENCY. You know, EXACTLY what the emoluments clause was to address.
He didn't expect to win, but immediately starting making money off of his run. Then he HIT THE JACKPOT.
But we can't understand it enough to toss his ass out of OUR White House? Again, I call bullshit.
Karadeniz
(22,535 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)For seniors like me he is talking about cutting both medical care and the income to pay for what the reduced Medicare doesn't pay, hitting us twice.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)I learned that from watching Scott Walker, when he screwed nurses, teachers, and fire fighters. Those unions donated to Tom Barrett.
Trump's tax "cut" only helped the 1%. Average folks like us have to pick up their tab.
Quid pro quo didn't start with Ukraine.
(If he truly was a billionaire, like Steyer and Bloomberg, he wouldn't need any help in his campaign. You can't file bankruptcy unless you can prove your liabilities outweigh your assets. With all his high-rises, golf courses, and other properties, how can he have more than $1 billion in losses? He's one piss-poor businessman if that's true.)
We absolutely MUST get those 1040s.
homegirl
(1,429 posts)are
EARNED BENEFITS
Thanks for the effort Ms. Midler but next time get it right!
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)our throats for 40 years.
Hard to believe Ebenezer Scrooge was anyone's idol.
demosincebirth
(12,540 posts)Those aren't entitlements.
Initech
(100,080 posts)Oppaloopa
(867 posts)The same thing happened to several of her friends She lives in Florida.
iluvtennis
(19,862 posts)notinkansas
(1,096 posts)A definite loser proposition.
I think this tells us we can expect republican election cheating in as yet unseen degrees. Why else admit something like cutting social programs before an election?
Permanut
(5,610 posts)about cutting Social Security for their 90 year old mother. On second thought, maybe I won't.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)yes INDEED
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)without Congress...
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)captain queeg
(10,208 posts)And by farmers I mean the large corporate ones. They are getting most of it.
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