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How can we pressure someone to let the residents of that Washington.... (Original Post) LAS14 Mar 2020 OP
Flood the Governors phone....hammer Inslee if you think there should be action. AncientGeezer Mar 2020 #1
+1 pat_k Mar 2020 #3
What the families have been up against is horrible -- ABC Report 3/4 pat_k Mar 2020 #2
I contacted the dept of health in my state and was told the PUI's were not being tested because 58Sunliner Mar 2020 #4
OMG. Was that in WA? pat_k Mar 2020 #5
Virginia. They have 2 tables of info on their website, one says # of people tested, 58Sunliner Mar 2020 #6
Incredible pat_k Mar 2020 #7
Yes. I am angry. Is anyone in charge? 58Sunliner Mar 2020 #8
Seems not. pat_k Mar 2020 #9

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
2. What the families have been up against is horrible -- ABC Report 3/4
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 01:18 AM
Mar 2020
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/families-residents-washington-nursing-home-hit-coronavirus-answers/story?id=69389741

I read another report I couldn't find again that told even more about how horribly these poor people have been treated.

Why the hell didn't they have a hot line for families, workers, residents, etc., set up from day one? A team that included people in a position to GET ANSWERS and make sure those answers were relayed back to callers?

Early on they were talking about a team of 20 people from CDC who came out and were managing things. Sounded like, after initial "missteps" things were getting under control. Well, clearly, the impression of the situation I got from official briefings was wrong.

How the hell can you "manage" a situation without dealing with the PEOPLE involved????

58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
4. I contacted the dept of health in my state and was told the PUI's were not being tested because
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 01:40 AM
Mar 2020

there are no tests!!!!

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
5. OMG. Was that in WA?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 02:42 AM
Mar 2020

If it was here in WA, I'm mystified.

I understood the University of Washington was geared up to test 1500 samples a day. I don't know how many people are in the cue, but it's hard to imagine there are more than 4500 people under investigation and others who need testing on doctors orders at the moment. Some having to wait three days is problematic, but not as problematic as no tests at all!!!

If FedEx and Amazon can manage same day delivery, you'd think the state could set up a medical courier service capable of transporting samples from anywhere in the state to UW that fast.

And hell, maybe the state needs to contact Bezo's and contract him to set up a service that follows all the protocols and regulations for distributing collection kits and transporting samples. Given the infrastructure already in place, Amazon "medical" might be something that could be rolled out pretty quickly.


58Sunliner

(4,386 posts)
6. Virginia. They have 2 tables of info on their website, one says # of people tested,
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:56 AM
Mar 2020

one states PUI's, but the PUI's were 100 and the number tested was 9 and those had been found negative. So I called them to ask about the protocol for being a PUI, and the guy tried to assure me that they were being tested, and I said they are not reflected in the chart above, why the discrepancy? After some cat and mouse he finally admitted they don't have tests. But I had to ask specifically, are they not being tested because there are no tests? That's correct. They rely upon the CDC. I asked to speak to someone in charge, but he would not give out any other info. Maybe in 2 days it has changed. He could not outline the protocol for being a PUI either. The governors office referred me to the VHD for info.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
9. Seems not.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:00 PM
Mar 2020

I'm sure there are dedicated health professionals and civil servants working to get on top of things, but it's hard to find evidence of thoughtful coordination of information, people, and resources.

The inability to get needed information appears to pervade all levels. The more I read, the clearer it becomes that is it not just the public that is in the dark. Health care professionals on the front line are in the dark. Public health officials are in the dark about what's going in in their own jurisdictions. Seems like there are just hosts of people running around trying to get information that is simply not to be had. They are only able to deal with what comes in front of them in a piecemeal way.

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