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Has anyone else seen the Politico clip of Roger Stone? (Original Post) Generic Other Mar 2020 OP
Saw it but still don't know much. He got off with light sentence SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #1
He is high as AF on possibly methamphetamine. I am dewsgirl Mar 2020 #4
oh wow. did not know that. but also similar to tardive dyskinesia side effect of psychoactive drugs Captain Zero Mar 2020 #5
I hadn't thought of TD could be, the aggression he is dewsgirl Mar 2020 #9
TD is the first thing that came to my mind. nt littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #15
Possibly ... any amphetamine is possible ... but it may be a neurological disorder of some kind ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #8
The aggression threw me. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #10
No question whatever else is going on in this vid ... he's out of his mind pissed off ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #11
His mask was falling off. That is what he is like inside. He is trying to suppress applegrove Mar 2020 #2
Very disturbing. Tucker08087 Mar 2020 #12
Happened to me in a bar when i was 23. I refused to give my phone number applegrove Mar 2020 #25
Both maybe? 2naSalit Mar 2020 #3
Smole 'em while ya got 'em B Stieg Mar 2020 #6
I watched about 45 minutes of the deposition clips. yonder Mar 2020 #7
It is a video of Stone realizing he is in deep poo poo riversedge Mar 2020 #13
Cocaine LudwigPastorius Mar 2020 #14
Yup. Jamastiene Mar 2020 #19
What a bully fears the most safeinOhio Mar 2020 #16
So unsettling! luvallpeeps Mar 2020 #17
Sometimes you can see a person who's clearly seriously ill Grokenstein Mar 2020 #18
At some point we may discover the man is a huffer, or some other similar human frailty. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #21
It's like the lizard hiding under the human skin is fighting to get out! Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #20
It's Lindsey Graham during the Kavanaugh hearing. maxrandb Mar 2020 #22
Here's the problem for trump... Raven Mar 2020 #23
Dear God! calimary Mar 2020 #24
Creeppy son of a bitch that's for sure dem4decades Mar 2020 #26
 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
1. Saw it but still don't know much. He got off with light sentence
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:07 AM
Mar 2020

And I hope they find more to charge and convict him in to keep him locked up after Trump pardons him.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
4. He is high as AF on possibly methamphetamine. I am
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:17 AM
Mar 2020

100 percent serious, what he is doing with his mouth is a classic sign of amphetamine abuse.

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
5. oh wow. did not know that. but also similar to tardive dyskinesia side effect of psychoactive drugs
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:21 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe he is on a psychoactive and they have not given him cogentin or some other yet for the tardive dyskinesia ??

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
9. I hadn't thought of TD could be, the aggression he is
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:46 AM
Mar 2020

exhibiting took me off guard, it takes a lot to do that.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Possibly ... any amphetamine is possible ... but it may be a neurological disorder of some kind ...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:44 AM
Mar 2020

Starting to show signs of Parkinson's or something similar maybe.

Long period of cocaine abuse can do some weird stuff to people's facial muscles too.

Whatever it is if Trump sees this he's not going to want to pardon Stone I don't think. I could see this making him real uncomfortable, seeing him like this.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. No question whatever else is going on in this vid ... he's out of his mind pissed off ...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:51 AM
Mar 2020

Of course, drugs can do that to many people (amphetamines in particular), so it's logical to suspect them given the totality of the display here.

I just wouldn't rule out something neurological (non-drug abuse related) + extreme anger.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
2. His mask was falling off. That is what he is like inside. He is trying to suppress
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:07 AM
Mar 2020

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his desire to kill/destroy the person holding him to account. If he weren't being filmed or it could have become a narcissistic explotion.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
12. Very disturbing.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 04:08 AM
Mar 2020

Yes, you can see that he’s trying to hold back his rage, but he is spectacularly unsuccessful. It must be quite a shock to actually be held accountable.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
25. Happened to me in a bar when i was 23. I refused to give my phone number
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 05:13 AM
Mar 2020

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to some very strange person. He said ""What you're not giving me your phone number!!". I say "no". He bit down, sneered and flalled and pumped his arms in rage in a quick second. Then he caught himself. I was with other people and in a public place so felt safe enough to laugh nervously. We all did. I didn't think of him at the time beyond the drive home (i did not drink much as i was driving). 7 years later he had set me up inside and outside of the workplace. I did not recognize him at the time. I don't have a memory for faces. But it was him alright when i finally figured it out 5 years later. And boy does he wear a mask.

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
3. Both maybe?
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:14 AM
Mar 2020

What an evil POS he is. I would imagine that ogre45 is very much like that. They have been pampered all their lives and now they are finally being called out for their assholery and crimes.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
6. Smole 'em while ya got 'em
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:38 AM
Mar 2020

No pardon from Donnie so he's taking all the drugs?
Naw. He'll get out. The scum always floats to the top...

yonder

(9,666 posts)
7. I watched about 45 minutes of the deposition clips.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:38 AM
Mar 2020

He is off his rocker.

And another clip — don't know for sure but the raving looking dude looks like Rick Scott tweaking his ass off:


safeinOhio

(32,686 posts)
16. What a bully fears the most
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:17 AM
Mar 2020

is exposure and that is what they use to threaten others. He is and has been a bully, like trump, his whole life. You can sense this when you see him about to be exposed in this video. Panic and fear in the extreme.

Grokenstein

(5,723 posts)
18. Sometimes you can see a person who's clearly seriously ill
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:47 AM
Mar 2020

...and not give a single damn.

Rejoice, in fact. Civility mavens be damned, this makes me happy.

Just think--this is what Don-Don's like when he hasn't had his Adderall and hamberder breakfast.

Baitball Blogger

(46,720 posts)
21. At some point we may discover the man is a huffer, or some other similar human frailty.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:38 AM
Mar 2020

I didn't just pluck that out of the air. In the nineties Central Florida was led by a crazy, anti-government, anti-regulation creep, who turned out to be a huffer.

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
22. It's Lindsey Graham during the Kavanaugh hearing.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:38 AM
Mar 2020

You could actually see and hear the snake trying to get out of his skin.

Raven

(13,891 posts)
23. Here's the problem for trump...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:45 AM
Mar 2020

If he doesn't pardon this guy, he'll talk. If he does pardon this guy he'll talk if someone offers him enough money. If Trump tries to get Stone to sign an NDA, the pardon will be challenged. Bad options and Stone knows it.

calimary

(81,298 posts)
24. Dear God!
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020

Looks like someone coming unspooled.

I can see how this crazed and TOTALLY creepy demeanor might freak out a target or an opponent and intimidate that opponent into whatever Mr. Freakazoid threatens to do if he doesn’t get his way.

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