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quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
8. And we wont even be able to do that much
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:28 AM
Mar 2020

if it is as bad as it may be.. it will be worse here.

Our best hope is that its not actually as bad, or that something in that region exacerbated the spread and intensity of the disease.

But the deaths stateside and the community spread dont seem promising.

jimfields33

(15,807 posts)
11. Just to get the permits and environmental impact study would take time
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:57 AM
Mar 2020

The one thing we do is ensure safety and environment is sound. China? Not so much obviously.

rictofen

(236 posts)
16. The praise for China beggars belief
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

Trump might be the teflon don, but China must be the teflon country.

Imagine if the US had unleashed this virus with improper / unwise handling of animals, and then the Trump admin arrested doctors/whistle blowers, and built some shitty 1 or 2 level sprawling buildings without, as you note, all the proper impact studies and permits. And finally, by authoritarian dictate, they restricted the movement of roughly half the US population. People and organizations all over the world including the WHO would be lining up to praise all of that shit, I'm sure

Captain Zero

(6,806 posts)
2. that thought had occurred to me over the weekend. Also....
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:14 AM
Mar 2020

if it gets really ramped up and full blown among the public and you THINK you have it, and you go to a hospital/ dr. office/clinic only for them to tell you that you DON'T have it, then you have just taken a leisurely swim in a CoVID viral stew.

Sorry to make you think about that.

DFW

(54,387 posts)
4. That may be no consolation
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:24 AM
Mar 2020

There have been cases of people infected, treated, recovered, and re-infected.

It's apparently not like your ordinary flu, where, if your get it and recover, you usually don't get it again. This one seems more like getting run over by a car. If you cross the street while talking on your cell phone, get hit by a car, and recover from your injuries, it does NOT mean nothing will happen to you ever again if you once more cross the street talking on your cell phone.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
6. From what I read this re-infection business may just be bad testing
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:50 AM
Mar 2020

At least according to a virologist quoted in the New York Times:

Combined with reports from China of similar cases, the case in Japan has raised some uncomfortable questions.

<snip>

“I’m not saying that reinfection can’t occur, will never occur, but in that short time it’s unlikely,” said Florian Krammer, a virologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York.

Even the mildest of infections should leave at least short-term immunity against the virus in the recovering patient, he said.

More likely, the “reinfected” patients still harbored low levels of the virus when they were discharged from the hospital, and testing failed to pick it up.



Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
7. I understand that the reinfected carry the virus but don't have the symptoms.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:51 AM
Mar 2020

So they aren’t sick but still need to be quarantined.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
12. Im assuming I'll probably get it no matter
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:04 AM
Mar 2020

So I'm doing everything I can to be healthy and strong to resist and recover from the virus (as well as the normal precautions)

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
15. Not necessarily
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:26 AM
Mar 2020

They are testing possible treatments (e.g., the Gilead antiviral), and if successful, we might actually have some treatments available a few months down the line. If it works, and they can mass produce it, it could potentially be given to anyone who tests positive for it, in order to halt complications.

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
18. Hope the head of Gilead isn't related to Shkreli.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

They could make a killing (literally) by pricing the treatment sky high.

And Trump’s people seem fine with that.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
17. See this twitter thread. Kind of along that line of thinking
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:45 PM
Mar 2020

Use “Translate Tweet” link on each if you don’t speak Italian






3 / For example, how much mortality will rise if we are unable to give coronavirus patients the necessary attention they need,

if our hospitals are clogged and 1 in 10 of the doctors in isolation?
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